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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1221
14 gas 14 pool for Sen
16? hatch 16 pool for Idra
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1222
interesting drone scout. idra usually says it's not worth the information when he sees players do it on his stream. he must have some thing up his sleeve hmmm
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1223
On May 16 2011 12:35 SC2Phoenix wrote:
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On May 16 2011 12:34 crms wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:34 SC2Phoenix wrote:
Sen had more drones 2 bases and roachs to Idras 1 base and pure ling....... It was gg guys.



idra had 5 more drones.
Oh sorry so pumps out drones out of 2 hatches while going roach while Idra is still on speedling and almost no gas. But game was still playable right?



so true. Non-zergs don't realize how fragile zvz actually is. It really is like rock paper scissors, assuming your opponent is as good as you are.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
May 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#1224
Even if Idra loses 99% of the time he should stay in it for the 1% chance of winning the game. I mean losing that game isn't the biggest deal in the world since Idra will still probably get top 2 in his division but IMO if you take yourself seriously as a progamer you should treat every game like it is a GSL final.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#1225
Green zerg vs Purple zerg...just like the Xel'Nagans intended.. by far the strongest color choices..
Idra spawning at the 7 o'clock, Sen at the 1..
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
May 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#1226
On May 16 2011 12:36 cca1ss1e wrote:
man who cares about the colour changing between players.. I like seeing different colours.. especially white on a zerg.


For me, I find certain colors are more difficult to see depending on the race/map.

Purple for zerg is difficult to differentiate on creep. Green blends in well with maps like Shattered Temple. Yellow/Orange can oftentimes look similar on the minimap.
tenkka
Profile Joined May 2011
United States89 Posts
May 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#1227
Roach warren for the gracken. Looks like he's skipping banes altogether.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#1228
Idra is playing this so weird....not FEing on crossfire, cheesing, drone scouting, all stuff he wouldn't normally do. Mindgames really getting to him ;/
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
fruchtzergeis
Profile Joined April 2011
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 03:39:46
May 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#1229
On May 16 2011 12:38 Gudeldar wrote:
Even if Idra loses 99% of the time he should stay in it for the 1% chance of winning the game. I mean losing that game isn't the biggest deal in the world since Idra will still probably get top 2 in his division but IMO if you take yourself seriously as a progamer you should treat every game like it is a GSL final.


more like 0,0000001%

edit: and that would be probably a cause of power outage of b.net server
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
May 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#1230
On May 16 2011 12:36 Pandain wrote:
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On May 16 2011 12:35 Killerkrack wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:34 DoomsVille wrote:
Don't know what Gretorp and Incontrol are talking about. He was pretty much dead at that point. No way can he catch up against Sen.

Agreed, Idra has no chance at every catching up to Sen at that point.


Idra was up in drones, laying down an expansion.

For sen, he was beginning to drone up, but didn't immediately do it. Thus he was neither as far ahead as he could have been economically or militarily(didn't commit to counter all in.) He just saw a bunch of zerglings, and was definitely not going to push out for at least a couple minutes, by which time Idra would have had his hatchery up and in a decent, albeit not preferred, position.

Way to early to gg.


IdrA was only up 5 drones

Sen had the production to out-drone IdrA while being safe behind the ~10 roaches he had made, or the production to mass up a bit more roaches and go kill him. Either situation, Sen wins. Barring a massive mistake from Sen, he had the game won, whichever way he decided to play it.
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#1231
On May 16 2011 12:38 tenkka wrote:
Roach warren for the gracken. Looks like he's skipping banes altogether.

This seems to be his and Ret's favourite ZvZ build.
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Ezekyle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia607 Posts
May 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#1232
IdrA just got supply blocked. :O
NightAngel
Profile Joined June 2010
United States144 Posts
May 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#1233
HUGE supply block for IdrA @44/44! =[
[QUOTE][B]On August 05 2011 05:06 Beerdrinker wrote:[/B] TSL needs to be more sensitive about doing business in korea, they need to be respectful of the culture, their contracts and verbal obligations[/QUOTE]
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
May 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#1234
IdrA supply blocked himself at 44 pretty hard. Huge huge mistake. Honestly I think that's going to cost him the game.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#1235
It's amazing how much people don't understand ZvZ.
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
May 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#1236
IdrA is in a good shape this game so far.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
May 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#1237
Game was nowhere near over. We don't even know Sen planned on attacking there. With 14 drones on 2 bases, it's pretty likely he would have turtled for awhile to produce workers. Idra's second hatch was almost complete. He had more workers and Sen hadn't even drone transferred yet to his 2nd hatch. (Probably wouldn't have for awhile since banelings are a lot harder to stop into the natural expo which is why I think he would have turtled his roachs).

All in all, for a supposed macro player like Idra... there was no reason to gg there.
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
May 16 2011 03:41 GMT
#1238
Sen droning hard
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 16 2011 03:41 GMT
#1239
On May 16 2011 12:39 Clog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:36 Pandain wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:35 Killerkrack wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:34 DoomsVille wrote:
Don't know what Gretorp and Incontrol are talking about. He was pretty much dead at that point. No way can he catch up against Sen.

Agreed, Idra has no chance at every catching up to Sen at that point.


Idra was up in drones, laying down an expansion.

For sen, he was beginning to drone up, but didn't immediately do it. Thus he was neither as far ahead as he could have been economically or militarily(didn't commit to counter all in.) He just saw a bunch of zerglings, and was definitely not going to push out for at least a couple minutes, by which time Idra would have had his hatchery up and in a decent, albeit not preferred, position.

Way to early to gg.


IdrA was only up 5 drones

Sen had the production to out-drone IdrA while being safe behind the ~10 roaches he had made, or the production to mass up a bit more roaches and go kill him. Either situation, Sen wins. Barring a massive mistake from Sen, he had the game won, whichever way he decided to play it.


Idra was getting up an expansion. That's the important thing. Sen had roughly 8 roaches, which is totally different from 10. 8 roaches is really the magic number. It means Sen is playing cautiously, unsure of whether Idra is going towards a macro game or an all in. It means Idra had the opportunity to win if Sen didn't react correctly, pushed out too soon(and let Idra surround him), etc...
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
May 16 2011 03:41 GMT
#1240
On May 16 2011 12:40 Thrax wrote:
IdrA is in a good shape this game so far.


He's in a good shape in every game he hasn't left...
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