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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 16 2011 03:41 GMT
#1241
sen has double amount of drones wow
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 16 2011 03:41 GMT
#1242
Sen and Idra both droning hard.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 16 2011 03:42 GMT
#1243
You mean Idra didn't GG when he supply-blocked himself at 44/44? Weird.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 16 2011 03:42 GMT
#1244
Drone For the Road

Love it :D
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 16 2011 03:42 GMT
#1245
On May 16 2011 12:41 zoLo wrote:
sen has double amount of drones wow


What? Am I watching a different game?
fruchtzergeis
Profile Joined April 2011
64 Posts
May 16 2011 03:42 GMT
#1246
On May 16 2011 12:40 Corrik wrote:
Game was nowhere near over. We don't even know Sen planned on attacking there. With 14 drones on 2 bases, it's pretty likely he would have turtled for awhile to produce workers. Idra's second hatch was almost complete. He had more workers and Sen hadn't even drone transferred yet to his 2nd hatch. (Probably wouldn't have for awhile since banelings are a lot harder to stop into the natural expo which is why I think he would have turtled his roachs).

All in all, for a supposed macro player like Idra... there was no reason to gg there.


damn it.

macro of players at this level isn't that big of a difference, especially in zvz

oov in bw is a macro player, best is. but in sc2, it doesn't do that much of a difference.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#1247
Sen's ahead in tech but Idra's ahead in drones now.
Gezuz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden306 Posts
May 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#1248
On May 16 2011 12:38 Gudeldar wrote:
Even if Idra loses 99% of the time he should stay in it for the 1% chance of winning the game. I mean losing that game isn't the biggest deal in the world since Idra will still probably get top 2 in his division but IMO if you take yourself seriously as a progamer you should treat every game like it is a GSL final.


Tired of all these comments.

These are some of the best players in the world and in order for idra to win Sen had to MAJORLY fuck up i mean like accidently kill his expo or sneeze and move all his units without A move.

Maybe comebacks are possible in whatever league youre in but it wouldnt have worked in that game
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#1249
I think infestors are going to win this for Sen
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#1250
On May 16 2011 12:38 Gudeldar wrote:
Even if Idra loses 99% of the time he should stay in it for the 1% chance of winning the game. I mean losing that game isn't the biggest deal in the world since Idra will still probably get top 2 in his division but IMO if you take yourself seriously as a progamer you should treat every game like it is a GSL final.

Apparently, Idra's early GG timing is due to preserving his "mental game." He doesn't want to exhaust himself trying to claw out of a disadvantageous situation, so he attempts to save his energy for another match.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#1251
That faster 3rd is gonna' be huge unless IdrA does a big allin like, almost immediately.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#1252
Nearly identical builds, until Sen opts for infestors, while Idra gets his upgrades a little quicker..
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#1253
Idra moving out with all his roaches to Sen's third
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#1254
Two base push all-in coming up for IdrA but infestors for Sen. Looking good for the latter.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#1255
Come on Idraaaaaaa
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
May 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#1256
On May 16 2011 12:41 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:39 Clog wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:36 Pandain wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:35 Killerkrack wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:34 DoomsVille wrote:
Don't know what Gretorp and Incontrol are talking about. He was pretty much dead at that point. No way can he catch up against Sen.

Agreed, Idra has no chance at every catching up to Sen at that point.


Idra was up in drones, laying down an expansion.

For sen, he was beginning to drone up, but didn't immediately do it. Thus he was neither as far ahead as he could have been economically or militarily(didn't commit to counter all in.) He just saw a bunch of zerglings, and was definitely not going to push out for at least a couple minutes, by which time Idra would have had his hatchery up and in a decent, albeit not preferred, position.

Way to early to gg.


IdrA was only up 5 drones

Sen had the production to out-drone IdrA while being safe behind the ~10 roaches he had made, or the production to mass up a bit more roaches and go kill him. Either situation, Sen wins. Barring a massive mistake from Sen, he had the game won, whichever way he decided to play it.


Idra was getting up an expansion. That's the important thing. Sen had roughly 8 roaches, which is totally different from 10. 8 roaches is really the magic number. It means Sen is playing cautiously, unsure of whether Idra is going towards a macro game or an all in. It means Idra had the opportunity to win if Sen didn't react correctly, pushed out too soon(and let Idra surround him), etc...


I'm aware he was getting an expo. It wasn't anywhere near done. He was going to be way behind on production for a fair amount of time.

I'm guessing you don't know much about ZvZ, because ling surrounds don't do much to roaches once you get past 8 or so.
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Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
May 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#1257
On May 16 2011 12:42 fruchtzergeis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:40 Corrik wrote:
Game was nowhere near over. We don't even know Sen planned on attacking there. With 14 drones on 2 bases, it's pretty likely he would have turtled for awhile to produce workers. Idra's second hatch was almost complete. He had more workers and Sen hadn't even drone transferred yet to his 2nd hatch. (Probably wouldn't have for awhile since banelings are a lot harder to stop into the natural expo which is why I think he would have turtled his roachs).

All in all, for a supposed macro player like Idra... there was no reason to gg there.


damn it.

macro of players at this level isn't that big of a difference, especially in zvz

oov in bw is a macro player, best is. but in sc2, it doesn't do that much of a difference.


I'm just pointing out his macro isn't bad to the point where he can't overcome it and win. He was down but not by much. I think we recently saw someone overcome a much larger disadvantage today.
fruchtzergeis
Profile Joined April 2011
64 Posts
May 16 2011 03:45 GMT
#1258
On May 16 2011 12:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:38 Gudeldar wrote:
Even if Idra loses 99% of the time he should stay in it for the 1% chance of winning the game. I mean losing that game isn't the biggest deal in the world since Idra will still probably get top 2 in his division but IMO if you take yourself seriously as a progamer you should treat every game like it is a GSL final.

Apparently, Idra's early GG timing is due to preserving his "mental game." He doesn't want to exhaust himself trying to claw out of a disadvantageous situation, so he attempts to save his energy for another match.


it's more likely that he knows he's losing and theres no way of coming back. no mental game shit..... what energy saved?

it's not that he's playing 3 football games in a row
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 16 2011 03:45 GMT
#1259
Think Sen has this
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
May 16 2011 03:45 GMT
#1260
Idra didn't win that battle

Time to GG
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