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On May 16 2011 10:41 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 10:39 CubEdIn wrote:On May 16 2011 10:37 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Idra > Sen 2-0 (I love Sen, but I can't honestly think that anyone understands ZvZ as well as Idra does..hoping for an EPIC match, though) Didn't Sen win over Idra before in a Bo3? Its really quite possible that Sen beat Idra before in a Bo3. As well, Idra was most worried about playing Sen. Since Sen is playing most on the Korean server, and Idra said most of the new builds for zvz come from Korea. So he feels like Sen has an advantage.
Look at the players Idra has beat in ZvZ. Morrow is the only legit player basically. Catz is just okay. Idra even said he's just winning that matchup because the other Zergs just aren't even near his level in these tournaments. Sen will be the best Zerg he has faced since release. I expect Sen to win.
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Seems like boxer would've had more success just massing 3/3 vikings and sniping colossus and exploiting EMP+stim vs HT/archon
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On May 16 2011 11:52 fruchtzergeis wrote:
even though boxer lost
he won
Yeah he's had this figured out for awhile now. He's lost more in the last few years than he ever did, but he seems to gain more fans, respect, accomplishments, and most of all fun out of it. He's basically the Obi Wan Kenobi of Starcraft. Strike me down now and I will become more powerful than you could ever imagine.
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On May 16 2011 11:55 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:54 Bebop07 wrote:
For people who know and watched boxer 5-8 years ago..thiat game was like like quintessential boxer to a T lol. except hed crush his opponents in those games
starcraft broodwar rewarded creativity though. sc2, tank marine and collosus gateway > everything else ):
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On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.
Sweet.
EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please.
On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..
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On May 16 2011 11:57 Fleebenworth wrote:
Seems like boxer would've had more success just massing 3/3 vikings and sniping colossus and exploiting EMP+stim vs HT/archon
I don't think anyone doubts that - it's pretty clear he wasn't 100% going for the win.
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Sigh, that may not have been an intense game but it was a fun one. ♥♥ Carriers mother ships battlecruisers and nukes...
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On May 16 2011 11:57 tones wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:56 FliedLice wrote:
this was just the first game.
mass ravens with HSM next. now is that high school musical? or...
nasl cutting to boxer singing and dancing in a gym would actually be pretty epic
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On May 16 2011 11:56 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:55 Mordiford wrote:On May 16 2011 11:54 Mailing wrote:
The only downside of that was
Boxer a-moving his BC through 10 storms, and not yamatoing colossus He had EMP'd his Battlecruisers so that they wouldn't get Feedbacked by the High Templars. The more feedbacks HT use, the less storms they use. Without storms his ground army could clean up.
This statement is misleading, because the 8bc are only 400 energy to feedback 10 storms are 750 energy meaning with 8 feedbacks he still has energy for 3 storms (at least) which is enough to greatly soften a ground army to the point where his collo/chargelots/stalkers will walk over them.
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On May 16 2011 11:57 fearus wrote:
Another issue was that you simply can't storm dodge with BCs so those storms ripped them BCs apart.
Storm ignores armour and does 80 damage mmm yummy cattlebruisers
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i vote for broo frame herrion!
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On May 16 2011 11:57 Meself wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.
Sweet. You are right, but really overextending it with Thors. Clumped up Thors? A single Thor is a clump imo. :D
nah you can hit multiple thors and cause of their speed they usually take the full damage.
HT > all T minus emp. thats why lategame tvp very often comes down to those one caster battle where the T wins if he emps all HTs and loses if he fails to do that.
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On May 16 2011 11:58 AimForTheBushes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.
Sweet. EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please. On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..
I wouldn't call 1 extra range "easily" outranging. Yes, it outranges feedback, but don't be obnoxious to make your point.
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On May 16 2011 11:58 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:56 Mailing wrote:On May 16 2011 11:55 Mordiford wrote:On May 16 2011 11:54 Mailing wrote:
The only downside of that was
Boxer a-moving his BC through 10 storms, and not yamatoing colossus He had EMP'd his Battlecruisers so that they wouldn't get Feedbacked by the High Templars. The more feedbacks HT use, the less storms they use. Without storms his ground army could clean up. This statement is misleading, because the 8bc are only 400 energy to feedback 10 storms are 750 energy meaning with 8 feedbacks he still has energy for 3 storms (at least) which is enough to greatly soften a ground army to the point where his collo/chargelots/stalkers will walk over them.
8? I thought gretorp said boxer had 14
Oh well, was fun nontheless.
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On May 16 2011 11:58 AimForTheBushes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.
Sweet.
EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please.On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..
Yeah that one square is freaking huge...
Feedback should have been given a damage limit ala' EMP nerf. Ridiculously strong ability.
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Gretorp dropping some mad knowledge bombs there
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Alright, the SlayerS push - didn't work for Ryung or MMA, let's hope it works for Boxer!
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On May 16 2011 11:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:58 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.
Sweet. EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please. On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle.. I wouldn't call 1 extra range "easily" outranging.
also EMP is an ae, doesn't that practically give it around 2 range extra?
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no really sure why people get so excited for nukes tbh.. none of the boxer nukes put mana in any danger whatsoever
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On May 16 2011 11:55 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 11:54 Bebop07 wrote:
For people who know and watched boxer 5-8 years ago..thiat game was like like quintessential boxer to a T lol. except hed crush his opponents in those games Meant more the games he'd do cute stuff but eventually just get rolled/outmacroed due to it. And that happened a ton.
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