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War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
May 16 2011 02:57 GMT
#801
On May 16 2011 10:41 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 10:39 CubEdIn wrote:
On May 16 2011 10:37 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Idra > Sen 2-0 (I love Sen, but I can't honestly think that anyone understands ZvZ as well as Idra does..hoping for an EPIC match, though)


Didn't Sen win over Idra before in a Bo3?

Its really quite possible that Sen beat Idra before in a Bo3. As well, Idra was most worried about playing Sen. Since Sen is playing most on the Korean server, and Idra said most of the new builds for zvz come from Korea. So he feels like Sen has an advantage.

Look at the players Idra has beat in ZvZ. Morrow is the only legit player basically. Catz is just okay. Idra even said he's just winning that matchup because the other Zergs just aren't even near his level in these tournaments. Sen will be the best Zerg he has faced since release. I expect Sen to win.
Why appeal to God when you can appeal to Apaches?
Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
May 16 2011 02:57 GMT
#802
Seems like boxer would've had more success just massing 3/3 vikings and sniping colossus and exploiting EMP+stim vs HT/archon
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
May 16 2011 02:57 GMT
#803
On May 16 2011 11:52 fruchtzergeis wrote:
even though boxer lost

he won



Yeah he's had this figured out for awhile now. He's lost more in the last few years than he ever did, but he seems to gain more fans, respect, accomplishments, and most of all fun out of it. He's basically the Obi Wan Kenobi of Starcraft. Strike me down now and I will become more powerful than you could ever imagine.
kaileah
Profile Joined March 2011
171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 02:58:12
May 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#804
On May 16 2011 11:55 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:54 Bebop07 wrote:
For people who know and watched boxer 5-8 years ago..thiat game was like like quintessential boxer to a T lol.


except hed crush his opponents in those games


starcraft broodwar rewarded creativity though. sc2, tank marine and collosus gateway > everything else ):
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#805
On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.

Sweet.


EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please.

On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#806
On May 16 2011 11:57 Fleebenworth wrote:
Seems like boxer would've had more success just massing 3/3 vikings and sniping colossus and exploiting EMP+stim vs HT/archon


I don't think anyone doubts that - it's pretty clear he wasn't 100% going for the win.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#807
Sigh, that may not have been an intense game but it was a fun one. ♥♥ Carriers mother ships battlecruisers and nukes...
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#808
On May 16 2011 11:57 tones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:56 FliedLice wrote:
this was just the first game.

mass ravens with HSM next.


now is that high school musical? or...


nasl cutting to boxer singing and dancing in a gym would actually be pretty epic
Kevmeister @ Dota2
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#809
On May 16 2011 11:56 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:55 Mordiford wrote:
On May 16 2011 11:54 Mailing wrote:
The only downside of that was

Boxer a-moving his BC through 10 storms, and not yamatoing colossus


He had EMP'd his Battlecruisers so that they wouldn't get Feedbacked by the High Templars.


The more feedbacks HT use, the less storms they use. Without storms his ground army could clean up.


This statement is misleading, because the 8bc are only 400 energy to feedback 10 storms are 750 energy meaning with 8 feedbacks he still has energy for 3 storms (at least) which is enough to greatly soften a ground army to the point where his collo/chargelots/stalkers will walk over them.
Hi.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13426 Posts
May 16 2011 02:59 GMT
#810
On May 16 2011 11:57 fearus wrote:
Another issue was that you simply can't storm dodge with BCs so those storms ripped them BCs apart.


Storm ignores armour and does 80 damage mmm yummy cattlebruisers
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 16 2011 02:59 GMT
#811
i vote for broo frame herrion!
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 16 2011 02:59 GMT
#812
On May 16 2011 11:57 Meself wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.

Sweet.


You are right, but really overextending it with Thors. Clumped up Thors? A single Thor is a clump imo. :D


nah you can hit multiple thors and cause of their speed they usually take the full damage.

HT > all T minus emp. thats why lategame tvp very often comes down to those one caster battle where the T wins if he emps all HTs and loses if he fails to do that.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 03:01:04
May 16 2011 02:59 GMT
#813
On May 16 2011 11:58 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.

Sweet.


EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please.

On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..


I wouldn't call 1 extra range "easily" outranging. Yes, it outranges feedback, but don't be obnoxious to make your point.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#814
On May 16 2011 11:58 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:56 Mailing wrote:
On May 16 2011 11:55 Mordiford wrote:
On May 16 2011 11:54 Mailing wrote:
The only downside of that was

Boxer a-moving his BC through 10 storms, and not yamatoing colossus


He had EMP'd his Battlecruisers so that they wouldn't get Feedbacked by the High Templars.


The more feedbacks HT use, the less storms they use. Without storms his ground army could clean up.


This statement is misleading, because the 8bc are only 400 energy to feedback 10 storms are 750 energy meaning with 8 feedbacks he still has energy for 3 storms (at least) which is enough to greatly soften a ground army to the point where his collo/chargelots/stalkers will walk over them.



8? I thought gretorp said boxer had 14

Oh well, was fun nontheless.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
May 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#815
On May 16 2011 11:58 AimForTheBushes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.

Sweet.


EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please.


On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..


Yeah that one square is freaking huge...

Feedback should have been given a damage limit ala' EMP nerf. Ridiculously strong ability.
Mapleleaf
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada46 Posts
May 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#816
Gretorp dropping some mad knowledge bombs there
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
May 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#817
Alright, the SlayerS push - didn't work for Ryung or MMA, let's hope it works for Boxer!
the farm ends here
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 16 2011 03:00 GMT
#818
On May 16 2011 11:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:58 AimForTheBushes wrote:
On May 16 2011 11:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Pretty funny how the entirety of terran tech is countered by high templar, medivacs, bcs, banshees, thors and ghosts all have energy to be feed backed, bcs and thors have a tendency to clump and move slowly thus making them easy targets for storms and tanks/hellions/marauders/marines all get softened up to the point where collosus or ground units will easily walk over them by storms.

Sweet.


EMP easily outranges Feedback/storm. No more qq, please.

On to Crossfire..will be interesting to see if one of them all-ins hoping for a quick win after that epic battle..


I wouldn't call 1 extra range "easily" outranging.


also EMP is an ae, doesn't that practically give it around 2 range extra?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Laboof
Profile Joined July 2010
United States113 Posts
May 16 2011 03:01 GMT
#819
no really sure why people get so excited for nukes tbh.. none of the boxer nukes put mana in any danger whatsoever
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
May 16 2011 03:01 GMT
#820
On May 16 2011 11:55 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 11:54 Bebop07 wrote:
For people who know and watched boxer 5-8 years ago..thiat game was like like quintessential boxer to a T lol.


except hed crush his opponents in those games
Meant more the games he'd do cute stuff but eventually just get rolled/outmacroed due to it. And that happened a ton.
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