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Games are going on, no caster talk in the LR thread please.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 15 2011 02:51 GMT
#581
On May 15 2011 11:49 namedplayer wrote:
Lag won? or MC Overrrrated?


how about:

great timing push by Stalife?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 02:51 GMT
#582
On May 15 2011 11:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting on terminus

MC is at the 3

Stalife is at the 9


3:00

Cyber on the way for MC

Orbital on the way for Stalife
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
May 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#583
Poll: Recommend Game 1 MC vs Stalife?

Yes (18)
 
72%

No (5)
 
20%

If you have time (2)
 
8%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 1 MC vs Stalife?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 02:52:37
May 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#584
On May 15 2011 11:50 Stanlot wrote:
Wish I could watch but for some reason, the stream lag is just unbearable for me tonight >:/


one of the first days where i have zero stream issues. think the stream lagged for 3 seconds twice since it started.

i was and am very critical of nasl but today evrything is great so far :>

On May 15 2011 11:51 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:49 namedplayer wrote:
Lag won? or MC Overrrrated?


how about:

great timing push by Stalife?


yeah but still the game was more lost by mc then won by stalife.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
May 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#585
if MC loses to the same build again...
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 02:52:29
May 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#586
On May 15 2011 11:48 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:47 AlBundy wrote:
LOL MC?!? I can't believe he lost to Stalife. MC looking really bad in the NASL so far

That was amazing by Stalife.


Ya, that amazing "get contained into only making marines" build LOL I swear some people have such low standards
SooYoung-Noona!
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
May 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#587
If it aint broke, don't fix it. Same Stallife build.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#588
On May 15 2011 11:51 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting on terminus

MC is at the 3

Stalife is at the 9


3:00

Cyber on the way for MC

Orbital on the way for Stalife


3:40

Warp gate on the way for MC
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#589
On May 15 2011 11:51 naux wrote:
its lag why dont you people go play in korea servers and see the "no lag"


No one is saying there is no lag, but lag is not why MC lost that game. He lost because he made a bad decision not to attack when he was at Stalife's natural.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#590
On May 15 2011 11:51 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:50 Serpico wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:49 Dommk wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:48 garlicface wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:47 AlBundy wrote:
LOL MC?!? I can't believe he lost to Stalife. MC looking really bad in the NASL so far

That was amazing by Stalife.

He just flipped a coin and skipped meviacs. He was banking on the Protoss not getting a quick observer and seeing there was no way for him to ever get down his ramp until 13mins into the game, regardless of having EMP's...

and MC takes as many risks as stalife does. Big deal.

But MC actually has superior game knowledge, mechanics and ability to play to back them up. Stalifes only hope was MC not getting that observer out quickly

You're taking away from Stalife's win because MC is a supposedly better player? Shouldn't that make Stalife's win that much more impressive?
#TeamBuLba
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#591
On May 15 2011 11:51 Miragee wrote:
And MC is the next protoss, who get up a nice contain against terran and then gives it up without any reasons. I don't understand that at all.


Conc shells means no retreat is possible. Far far better to give up the contain 30 secs too early than 30 secs too late.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#592
On May 15 2011 11:51 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:49 namedplayer wrote:
Lag won? or MC Overrrrated?


how about:

great timing push by Stalife?


that'd be too simple, people have to hate on something on the LR threads.

wouldn't be the same without it.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#593
On May 15 2011 11:52 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:48 garlicface wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:47 AlBundy wrote:
LOL MC?!? I can't believe he lost to Stalife. MC looking really bad in the NASL so far

That was amazing by Stalife.


Ya, that amazing "get contained into only making marines" build LOL I swear some people have such low standards


This just in: ghosts and marauders are now marines.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#594
On May 15 2011 11:52 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:51 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:49 Drazerk wrote:
Game two now starting on terminus

MC is at the 3

Stalife is at the 9


3:00

Cyber on the way for MC

Orbital on the way for Stalife


3:40

Warp gate on the way for MC


5:30

Conc shells finish for stalife

now starting stim
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#595
On May 15 2011 11:51 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:49 namedplayer wrote:
Lag won? or MC Overrrrated?


how about:

great timing push by Stalife?


Well look at those first 3 forcefields. They were complete misses, and I have to feel without a delay they would have boxed about 6 or 7 marines. You rely on perfect forcefields to hold off stim all ins with the kind of build MC did, and with delay forcefielding is kind of a crapshoot : (
Dodge arrows
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
May 15 2011 02:53 GMT
#596
To be honest, it has to be a combination of both lag and bad play from MC. I think the reason Stalife chose that build was because of the latency factor (making it easier for him to break a contain without medivacs), which doesn't make it any less legitimate. I got the feeling MC was not confident in his reaction time factoring in latency to ff contain Stalife's ramp, as he was constantly moving his units back and forth outside the ramp. It was pretty bad of him to get emped though.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
May 15 2011 02:54 GMT
#597
On May 15 2011 11:51 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:50 Serpico wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:49 Dommk wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:48 garlicface wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:47 AlBundy wrote:
LOL MC?!? I can't believe he lost to Stalife. MC looking really bad in the NASL so far

That was amazing by Stalife.

He just flipped a coin and skipped meviacs. He was banking on the Protoss not getting a quick observer and seeing there was no way for him to ever get down his ramp until 13mins into the game, regardless of having EMP's...

and MC takes as many risks as stalife does. Big deal.

But MC actually has superior game knowledge, mechanics and ability to play to back them up. Stalifes only hope was MC not getting that observer out quickly

If MC is so great and superior and godlike how is he losing to all of these various timing pushes from different Terran?
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
May 15 2011 02:54 GMT
#598
On May 15 2011 11:52 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 11:48 garlicface wrote:
On May 15 2011 11:47 AlBundy wrote:
LOL MC?!? I can't believe he lost to Stalife. MC looking really bad in the NASL so far

That was amazing by Stalife.


Ya, that amazing "get contained into only making marines" build LOL I swear some people have such low standards


because you know the timing with the ghosts and the 2 nice EMPs on the sentries didnt have anything to do with it, nope it was only the marines
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 02:55:50
May 15 2011 02:54 GMT
#599
On May 15 2011 11:51 Miragee wrote:
And MC is the next protoss, who get up a nice contain against terran and then gives it up without any reasons. I don't understand that at all.

He was playing safe. A quicker robo is generally too modest during a contain, he assumed Terran had medivacs at that time, if you get caught by an elevator from Medivacs then it is instant GG, he didn't assume his opponent would take a huge risk like not being able to ever get down the ramp as long as MC stayed there

because you know the timing with the ghosts and the 2 nice EMPs


That was just regular Ghost timings, 2 EMP's wasn't enough to get out of that ramp considering all those sentries were sitting on almost full energy. If MC got a quicker Robo he could have stayed there almost indefinitely
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 15 2011 02:54 GMT
#600
Liking MC's 4gate pressure.
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
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