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pleskator
Profile Joined March 2011
Czech Republic40 Posts
May 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#1241
I love how everyone here knows exactly what Kas meant by the "...." :D
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
May 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#1242
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
May 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#1243
On May 15 2011 05:12 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:10 Chrill wrote:
Really dont understand get the praise this series is getting. It's been about 4 identical games. So the first one was actually alright in that sense. But this is just getting silly. If they do the same army composition again I'll probably shut the thing off.

So annoying when they just play straight up and not do any cheese right?


Nope. I guess HasuObs passive playstile just doesnt tickle me the right way. Total turtle. Macrogames can be fun, these are not. Many mistakes and hesitation. I'm really glad Hasu is not in the finals.
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 20:14:43
May 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#1244
On May 15 2011 05:09 DiaBoLuS wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:08 gnutz wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:04 Kznn wrote:
Kas was such a better player in this game.
....

no

Losing 100 supply for killing 3 Nexi is not worth it if Protoss attacks in the next 5 minutes.


it depends.


on what? this post is totally useless.

Econ damage kicks in after time, not right away. Give me 1 situation where killing a nexus puts you ahead before 3-5 minutes.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#1245
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Drazerk wrote:
Firth map now starting on shakurus

Kas is in the bottom left

Hasu is in the top Right

series is tied 2-2


2:30

kas finishes his rax / gas



3:00

Hasu getting his cyber core out now

tech lab going down on the barracks for kas


3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe


Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 20:14:52
May 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#1246
How can people say that this series is boring. It's so much more awesome than GSL series or such (in each GSL Season, the average game lenght is about <10 minutes).
I hope TSL 4 comes fast coz i think the best series around are from TSL.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#1247
On May 15 2011 05:12 ComTrav wrote:
Tied series, with each game going into long macro mode with multiple engagements, and a narrow, hard-fought win each time...

MASSIVE IMBALANCE!!!!!111!!!!

Whoa whoa, let's not get all logical in this LR thread now.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
iceman.
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland33 Posts
May 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#1248
I think Kas would benefit from mixing up his builds a little bit.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#1249
On May 15 2011 05:13 TheBorg wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:08 Aristodemus wrote:
Maybe some of you guys who "know" how to play terran could teach Kas.


I know, right? Everyone suggesting this or that to two of Europe's top players. One guy posted 'if he had used my strategy XX, he would've won. It got me to Top 8 in Platinum!' ROFL


he was jokin. Atleast i hope so :D
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1250
some people need to realize that those 3 stalker at the 3 o'clock base kept hasu in the game, if he didn't harass like he did, he would have lost for sure.
wat
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1251
On May 15 2011 05:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
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On May 15 2011 05:10 DiaBoLuS wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:08 Funkatron wrote:
pretty bad play by both IMO.
1 control group by hasu, hesitant decision making.
Kas going blind viking. refusing to switch tech to deal with gateway... :|

turned into close games though. pretty fun to watch.


i lold.

no offense, but i cant find 2 american T/P players even playing on that level.


DiaBoLuS taking a mindless shot at the NA scene for no reason? There's a surprise. Take that garb elsewhere.

He just sounds like a fanboy

Also select is pretty good, or howabout huk? hes canadian ~_~
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1252
On May 15 2011 05:12 ava34 wrote:
Hasu should cannon rush jsut to throw Kas off...

Not on this map. It's the best map in the pool for his usual style.
My vanity is justified
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1253
On May 15 2011 05:12 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:09 SC2Phoenix wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:08 gnutz wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:04 Kznn wrote:
Kas was such a better player in this game.
....

no

Losing 100 supply for killing 3 Nexi is not worth it if Protoss attacks in the next 5 minutes.
But but he made 12 vikings to counter HasuObs high templer. He has to be the better player.


OMG, and just think about this; If zerg blind makes 12 corrupters vs Protoss with no Colossi.. they are literally useless. VIKINGS on the otherhand, can go drop the main and kill 10 probes.

Even when he makes a huge risky gamble, he still profits from it largely.

But its ok, making 12 vikings blindly and only losing 40 minutes later even with such a huge mistake.. Thats clearly worth terran QQ.


There's no imba in that game in my mind, but that 40 minutes was only because Hasu let Kas claw his way almost back into the game by stopping upgrades and not attacking when he had the advantage. He had it won at one point (when he was attacking the PF but got indecisive about it, in my opinion).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1254
On May 15 2011 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:12 Drazerk wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:10 Drazerk wrote:
Firth map now starting on shakurus

Kas is in the bottom left

Hasu is in the top Right

series is tied 2-2


2:30

kas finishes his rax / gas



3:00

Hasu getting his cyber core out now

tech lab going down on the barracks for kas


3:40

Kas getting a reaper


5:00

Stim starting for kas

reaper picks off Hasu's scouting probe




7:00

Hasu's Nexus finishes and now getting his obs out
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1255
On May 15 2011 05:10 Chrill wrote:
Really dont understand get the praise this series is getting. It's been about 4 identical games. So the first one was actually alright in that sense. But this is just getting silly. If they do the same army composition again I'll probably shut the thing off.

Hasu's strat in the last game was different than from the tohers though.
It appears I have been chosen.
Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1256
On May 15 2011 05:10 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:06 Pekkz wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:03 Skyze wrote:
rofl bad manner from a guy who makes pure marauder. wow.


Just a few hellions would destroy the zealots. He can blame himself for being so stubbern.


Exactly. Or tanks, Or thors (no, they arent useless now, just about as useless as HT's are because ghosts EMP is so cheap now)

Look at Thorzain play terran, even when he doesnt use thors, he plays very strong and smart. Kas is just getting pure marauder and hoping it will work because well, it works 99% of the time vs anyone on ladder whos not as good as HasuObs.

Any terran who is QQing in this thread, especially after how one-sided the first 2 games were (and Hasu made very little mistakes..) well.. just sad really.

Thorzain lategame TvP is mass Marauder+Starport+Ghost too. Tanks get 1 volley off in lategame battles btw, then you have to abandon them to chargelots. Or they get 2 volleys off, dealing some health damage to the gateway stuff and your whole army dies.
ava34
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
May 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#1257
On May 15 2011 05:14 iceman. wrote:
I think Kas would benefit from mixing up his builds a little bit.


"If it ain't broke..."
Hasu's not exactly mixing it up either. I guess neither player wants to take risks in such an important series.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
May 14 2011 20:16 GMT
#1258
On May 15 2011 05:13 TheBorg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:08 Aristodemus wrote:
Maybe some of you guys who "know" how to play terran could teach Kas.


I know, right? Everyone suggesting this or that to two of Europe's top players. One guy posted 'if he had used my strategy XX, he would've won. It got me to Top 8 in Platinum!' ROFL


To be honest though, you CAN make a lot of (correct) suggestions, watching from obs view.
Especially considering the importance of mechanics in SC, low-level players can make valid observations about the strategies, one reason why starcraft is so much fun to watch imo.
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
May 14 2011 20:16 GMT
#1259
On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1.


Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units


You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking.
Vincere Vel Mori
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
May 14 2011 20:16 GMT
#1260
On May 15 2011 05:12 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 05:08 DiaBoLuS wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:07 sc14s wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:05 Lann555 wrote:
On May 15 2011 05:03 OneOther wrote:
Jesus christ Hasu. Such a good player but I hate his fucking style. So damn passive all the time. Take some control and end the damned game already.


Lol, he is the ultimate turtle Protoss. Doesn't attack untill he has 200 of Colossus/HT/Archon + 30 gateway.

It does sure win games though

except for when he gets manhandled ~_~


ehm.... do you understand the protoss race?

if you wanna play a macro game for sure, this is the only way
whining about naniwas 2 base attacks, whining about hasus pure long term play with great micro.

whining about everything toss does?^^

I actually do understand protoss, what im implying is hasu is overrated, not that i dont understand the protoss race nor am i commenting on how protoss tends to play.


true, he must be after beating morrow, huk and boxer and winning any tour he attends at in europe atm vs bunch of players on idras level...

god, you just take a game, talk about bullshit that didnt even happen in that game to point out that hasu is overrated?

just make a hate-thread, you dont need to point out things that never happened there lolz.

watch hasu vs machine e.g. @ nasl and tell me hasu is overrated xD nobody even rates him as a top toss tbh, dont see the "overrating" at all... hes more liek underrated tbh.
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