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On May 03 2011 20:10 ChickenLips wrote:
This is the sC's only choice. I saw his macro TvZ and it was nooby crap.
Thank god SC2 allows for shit players to advance with cheese and all ins (choya, anypro, rain are just examples)
I mean, how can you effin get to 1k minerals if all you have to do is hold a every 25 seconds?
What a noob
Hahahaha. Will this whining ever stop?
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sC might have to mix in some straight up play to throw his opponent off.
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On May 03 2011 20:10 ChickenLips wrote:
This is the sC's only choice. I saw his macro TvZ and it was nooby crap.
Thank god SC2 allows for shit players to advance with cheese and all ins (choya, anypro, rain are just examples)
I mean, how can you effin get to 1k minerals if all you have to do is hold a every 25 seconds?
What a noob
youre the newb
happy birthday angry guy
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On May 03 2011 20:09 Executor1 wrote:
LOL i honestly dont think either of those games were cheeses, he did a 12 rax and pressured with a few scv's and a bunker with marines(thats what you do when you bunker pressure), i dont think he planned on winning right there but im sure he thought he would do some damage, immediately after he transitioned into a barracks and started playing normally, it was a pressure that did more damage then he expected.
First game was a hyper aggresive timing attack(s) off of 3 bases i would hardly call that 23 minute action packed game cheese.
So agree with you, spot on man!
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On May 03 2011 20:09 MuazizTremere wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:06 whoso wrote:
i have yet to get why someone above bronze league would call the first game cheesy and boring Simple, the Zerg lost. Every time Zerg loses early on it's cheese. Every time Zerg loses lategame macro it's imbalanced. Every time Zerg wins with some stupid roach/ling timing it's brilliant. Every time Zerg wins lategame macro the players was completely outplaying his opponent. Welcome to Zerg biased TL.
i don't want to QQ but that guy pulled like 8 scvs for a bunker rush. that's pretty much the definition of cheese besides 6pool.
it's part of the game, but the term 'outplayed' doesn't make any sense here...
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On May 03 2011 20:10 ChickenLips wrote:
This is the sC's only choice. I saw his macro TvZ and it was nooby crap.
Thank god SC2 allows for shit players to advance with cheese and all ins (choya, anypro, rain are just examples)
I mean, how can you effin get to 1k minerals if all you have to do is hold a every 25 seconds?
What a noob
Even if you 8 rax perfectly of 1 base (with an inbase expansion for double mule) you'll eventually end up with 1k minerals, it's just how terran cheese works. Please, don't talk stupid.
It's sad that cheese can get you as far but the cheesed can play to counter it.
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On May 03 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:08 proxY_ wrote:
First July now this, it's just frustrating to see inferior players win with really elaborate all-ins rather than outplaying their opponents in more standard games. I don't want to make excuses for the zergs though, Losira mismicroed in both games. That's one way to look at it. The other is Losira being very greedy and SC punishing him. I think it speaks more to the Terran's understanding of Zerg economy and to me that's pretty admirable.
Taking a 15 hatch against terran on the 2nd largest map in the game isn't greedy, it's the standard build. If Losira did the build that he did in game one with fast speed sc would've simply completed the wall-in and expanded putting him slightly ahead.
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On May 03 2011 20:10 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:09 Vitamins wrote:On May 03 2011 20:08 kirbynator wrote:
sC isnt playing for fans, hes playing to win
deal with it He made at least one new fan tonight. Guy is straight owning Losira. Agree, he made a fan out of me, great micro and good strategies.
Count me in, amazing splits by sc.
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On May 03 2011 20:11 Zerglot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:08 n00b3rt wrote:On May 03 2011 20:07 Zerglot wrote:On May 03 2011 20:06 Fission wrote:
Yay scfou! Totally outplaying losira at every turn, he's really showing that he's the better player. Better strategies maybe but not a better player I thought this is a strategy game and not Guitar hero ... And I thought this is a macro/strategy game and not gold league ...
Macro games are a style. It is completely legit to play using only timing pushes and all-in's.
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These are perfectly viable strats so I don't understand all the criticism of sC. Him and MKP do the vast majority of their practice on ladder (aswell as KeenMvP who is doing very well in code A) and just execute versatile aggression better than most
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wtf losira didn't 6pool his gonna lose 4 sho
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I really don't like the way SC is playing (has yet to build a tank I think), but Losira should be able to beat this if he was a truly great player
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Poor infestor control, letting bunkers go up without harassing the building worker... Losira's play is showing some holes.
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Christ, SHUT UP about balance. People get banned for balance whine multiple times daily and you STILL don't get the message? It's so old.
LosirA plays greedy and it's pretty damn hard to hold hatch first against that kind of marine/scv allin. If terran has the balls to do it, it's a great chance of winning. He's punishing greedy play.
(I play zerg)
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On May 03 2011 20:11 Telcontar wrote:
Let me get this straight zerg players. If a terran CCs first, and you baneling bust him, you punished a greedy build. However, when a terran bunker rushes your hatch first build, it's just cheesy fuck? Double standards ftw huh?
Difference being, zerg falls behind if not on 2 base and can't turtle. I don't see the double standards.
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On May 03 2011 20:11 Telcontar wrote:
Let me get this straight zerg players. If a terran CCs first, and you baneling bust him, you punished a greedy build. However, when a terran bunker rushes your hatch first build, it's just cheesy fuck? Double standards ftw huh?
Hell yeah Telcontar bringing some sense into this forum.
All those gigantic baneling busts that July, Morrow etc. do, are brilliant play, well guess what; so is this.
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On May 03 2011 20:10 light3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:09 Vitamins wrote:On May 03 2011 20:08 kirbynator wrote:
sC isnt playing for fans, hes playing to win
deal with it He made at least one new fan tonight. Guy is straight owning Losira. +1
Agreed.
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On May 03 2011 20:11 Zerglot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:08 n00b3rt wrote:On May 03 2011 20:07 Zerglot wrote:On May 03 2011 20:06 Fission wrote:
Yay scfou! Totally outplaying losira at every turn, he's really showing that he's the better player. Better strategies maybe but not a better player I thought this is a strategy game and not Guitar hero ... And I thought this is a macro/strategy game and not gold league ...
And so he had better strategies in a strategy game, problem?
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I don't understand why people are so surprised that many of us don't like cheese (when it's not on crackers or nachos).
Not complicated.
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don't tell me its another 12/12 2rax Lol
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