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On May 03 2011 20:06 whoso wrote: i have yet to get why someone above bronze league would call the first game cheesy and boring
Simple, the Zerg lost.
Every time Zerg loses early on it's cheese. Every time Zerg loses lategame macro it's imbalanced.
Every time Zerg wins with some stupid roach/ling timing it's brilliant. Every time Zerg wins lategame macro the players was completely outplaying his opponent.
Welcome to Zerg biased TL.
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On May 03 2011 20:08 jackdaleaper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:07 EternaL_9 wrote: wtf is tasteless talking about he never loses a ladder game! pretty sure he's just joking dude chill...
and i was joking too, sir.
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When Artosis said dust2, I literally almost died. Can't stop laughing
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Alot of bantraps in this thread now.
Hoping for more games so gogo losira
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This is what losira deserves after using that roach ling in his last games while artosis hyping him cause of his revolutionary infestor jk run them into marines.Sc FTW
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LOL i honestly dont think either of those games were cheeses, he did a 12 rax and pressured with a few scv's and a bunker with marines(thats what you do when you bunker pressure), i dont think he planned on winning right there but im sure he thought he would do some damage, immediately after he transitioned into a barracks and started playing normally, it was a pressure that did more damage then he expected.
First game was a hyper aggresive timing attack(s) off of 3 bases i would hardly call that 23 minute action packed game cheese.
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As a zerg I have that sick feeling in my stomach but I'm going to let it pass. Atleast this shows that Sc is scared to go late-game against zerg, I respect that because it isn't easy.
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You aren't taking into consideration the skill levels of the players playing the ZvT's
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we all know Z get stronger the longer the game goes and the more they are left alone - perfect counter by sC given how early a game sc2 is.
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I play zerg but I dont cry and bitch about how losira is losing because he is losing to cheese, work on that and he will be a truly great player and deserving to win the gsl. Lose to cheese and you dont have what it takes yet. It's as simple as that.
And for those who dont get it. You play to win not satisfy total strangers that think their voice counts because they know how to post on a forum. Realise or shut up. Your whining is ruining the thread.
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Stop whining about a zerg player losing to bunker all in. Cheese is part of the game
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On May 03 2011 20:08 proxY_ wrote: First July now this, it's just frustrating to see inferior players win with really elaborate all-ins rather than outplaying their opponents in more standard games. I don't want to make excuses for the zergs though, Losira mismicroed in both games.
That's one way to look at it. The other is Losira being very greedy and SC punishing him. I think it speaks more to the Terran's understanding of Zerg economy and to me that's pretty admirable.
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On May 03 2011 20:09 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:08 ShootingStars wrote: If SC 3-0 Losira, SC just completely outbried and outcheddared him I agree. I agree
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So many QQ tears here. I love it.
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On May 03 2011 20:09 Vitamins wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:08 kirbynator wrote: sC isnt playing for fans, hes playing to win
deal with it He made at least one new fan tonight. Guy is straight owning Losira. +1
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On May 03 2011 20:07 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:06 chaogui2 wrote: I don't know if sCfOu is more MarineKing or BitByBit. Either way, the all-in going over 20 minutes into game one sure was "unique". Show me BitByBit exhibiting that marine control/multitasking that sC showed in game 1 and I'll eat my socks. That definitely felt very MKP-esque. Bitbybit fails his all-ins to better players who drone micro better. Losira just lost all his drones, didn't kill enough marines and even let the bunker go up (or at least get to a point where it would have finished in 2 seconds, and even then it was negligible anyway.).
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This is the sC's only choice. I saw his macro TvZ and it was nooby crap.
Thank god SC2 allows for shit players to advance with cheese and all ins (choya, anypro, rain are just examples)
I mean, how can you effin get to 1k minerals if all you have to do is hold a every 25 seconds?
What a noob
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Im a random player, and Losira is much better imo....Its just that SC has very strong builds, relies alot on Terrans strength in early game....with cheese and rushes......and marines are good
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On May 03 2011 20:07 Zeon0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 20:06 Pajegetc wrote:On May 03 2011 20:04 Zeon0 wrote: ZvT still sucks Not really, it's the most balanced match up. u saw the past two matches? balance where? i like TvP a lot more ... omg. bye kid.
To all those who are saying SC is stupid or whatnot. Don't! Remember season 2?
MKP made a name for himself off doing strats like these. It keeps Zergs on their toes, and producing units. So please, stop criticizing the player for abusing an obvious flaw in the zerg 'standard play' niche.
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When there are that many SCV's being pulled off the line, I really think that pulling that many drones is a terrible idea -- if he had been mining while the bunker was building he'd have been able to get queens, the 3rd overlord faster, and a ton more lings. Then when you have all of that and the spine crawler finished, you attack.
Marine-SCV is always going to beat drone-slowling in roughly equal numbers.
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