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GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1321
this music is terrible
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1322
On April 25 2011 12:49 Dragar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 12:48 DarkRise wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:45 MUFFINS1 wrote:
this is so un idra like

indeed but any zergs should respond like that
just gonna let them get away with that, think not =/


Huh? It was entirely blind. Completely all-in from Idra, just lucky.



Blind? he scouted a terran fast expand on close position, his build beats that...
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Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1323
On April 25 2011 12:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On April 25 2011 12:47 Seam wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:46 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Cloud with the faster gg timing than even IdrA! Gotta give him that!


Wow! Yeah!

He lost his army and just dropped the game ><

GG timing? Idra GG's? Huh


I meant that Cloud's GG timing is even faster than IdrA's.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1324
On April 25 2011 12:49 Scila wrote:
terrible music

agreed. id rather listen to kpop than this depressing atonal dribble
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1325
On April 25 2011 12:49 Dragar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 12:48 DarkRise wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:45 MUFFINS1 wrote:
this is so un idra like

indeed but any zergs should respond like that
just gonna let them get away with that, think not =/


Huh? It was entirely blind. Completely all-in from Idra, just lucky.



Blind? He scouted the fast expo and responded correctly. What game were you watching?
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1326
On April 25 2011 12:49 Dragar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 12:48 DarkRise wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:45 MUFFINS1 wrote:
this is so un idra like

indeed but any zergs should respond like that
just gonna let them get away with that, think not =/


Huh? It was entirely blind. Completely all-in from Idra, just lucky.


It wasnt an all in though lol
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1327
On April 25 2011 12:49 dtz wrote:
the positive thoughts from the future were too much for cloud to handle. It's funny but unfortunate. Everything that could have gone wrong for Cloud did that game.


It almost looked like Cloud didn't understand the match-up during that game. Like he didn't know what banelings were or something.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1328
On April 25 2011 12:47 Pandain wrote:
Idra wins
*cue scary music


I know I was thinking that great choice of music.


On April 25 2011 12:47 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
YOU CAN'T LEAVE

YOU CAN'T LEAAAAAAAAAAAVE

IdrA is now a convicted felon.


the graken doesn't allow you to leave :D

Sen vs Boxer comeon a gogo I want it good
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1329
On April 25 2011 12:47 Scribble wrote:
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On April 25 2011 12:44 Azarkon wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:42 Scribble wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:41 Rhyme wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:38 RajaF wrote:
That was pretty stupid from Cloud. He know there are infestors out and he clumps all his marines into one big "please fungal us now" ball.


there's nothing you can do against muta/ling/infestor/broodlord without vikings, tbh. it was over regardless of how he microd


He could absolutely have spread his marines manually. This is why I don't get the "It's just better to deathball in SC2" attitude.


You could but you have to focus fire the Broods, and not just with 1-2 marines but with a whole group of marines. This tends to clump them back up.


That's the tendency, yes. My point is that with better manual control he could have kept them spread while focusing the broods and taken minimal damage from fungals. I'm not saying this is the level every player is or should be at right now, but I wanted to point this out because things like this are where the game should be eventually and there are a large number of people here who believe that deathballing is just more viable than small manually controlled groups in SC2, and I think that situation was evidence to the contrary.


here's one problem you have to think about though: speedlings are at their most effective when marines are split (ie no deathball), so you're sorta in a ctach-22 as terran in that situation.

split your marines and avoid some huge fungals, but get flooded by speedlings
don't split your marines, and be able to stutter step against speedlings, but get fungal'd instead.

the only answer is to have vikings, honestly.
dont ever say that
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1330
On April 25 2011 12:45 MUFFINS1 wrote:
this is so un idra like

Even though we've never (rarely?) seen IdrA do an all-in in a televised match, he's a great player. And like all great players he does anything that is required to win. It's just that he usually thinks that the best chance of him winning is to play a macro game. It'd be pretty stupid for IdrA to do that given what he saw in that game though. So, he all-in'd.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1331
Can only hope this series between boxer and sen is as amazing as last time they played. Hard to cheer for one player over the other, just need more awesome games.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1332
Ok now its Sen vs Boxer time. Oh man, this is gonna be good.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1333
On April 25 2011 12:49 CravenRaven wrote:
Atrocious music,


this one on right now is def the worst ever, please dont play rap NASL just do something other then rap
No Artosis, you are robin
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1334
On April 25 2011 12:43 CapnCDaWg wrote:
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On April 25 2011 12:41 MeatlessTaco wrote:
Isn't the possibility of close spawns something you would want to prepare for are a progamer? Or do pros not prepare much for NASL games?


Most higher-end tournaments have modified maps where close-position isn't possible (ex. MLG, TSL)


I know. But Cloud decided to find out after the game started. If you were preparing for a match, you would find out beforehand, and wouldn't need to ask in chat. I don't see how Cloud could have prepared for this match if he didn't know that. NASL must not be very important to him. But a lot of players are doing this, so either progamers don't actually prepare builds for specific maps/matchups or they do, but just not for NASL.
Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1335
good music selection
~Terran For Life~
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1336
On April 25 2011 12:50 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 12:49 Scila wrote:
terrible music

agreed. id rather listen to kpop than this depressing atonal dribble


K-pop would be better.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1337
BOXER FIGHTING!!!
AdahnSC
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1338
On April 25 2011 12:49 Dragar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 12:48 DarkRise wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:45 MUFFINS1 wrote:
this is so un idra like

indeed but any zergs should respond like that
just gonna let them get away with that, think not =/


Huh? It was entirely blind. Completely all-in from Idra, just lucky.



lol. command center first with 3 rax to block the front. any remotely smart player would know to baneling or roach bust that. entirely blind my ass.
jazzbassmatt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States566 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1339
On April 25 2011 12:49 Dragar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 12:48 DarkRise wrote:
On April 25 2011 12:45 MUFFINS1 wrote:
this is so un idra like

indeed but any zergs should respond like that
just gonna let them get away with that, think not =/


Huh? It was entirely blind. Completely all-in from Idra, just lucky.



I wouldn't call it entirely blind. Early aggression with banelings tends to do pretty well against an FE terran who doesn't hardcore turtle with siege tanks.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1340
Cloud decided to coin flip basically. He didn't scout, he didn't scan, he lifted his barracks back into his base as soon as the normal (ie Morrow) baneling bust timing was over and went out with an army that would've died to any kind of mass ling/baneling play. Yeah... Not very impressed there. Still, Idra played well and made the right decisions, though I would've liked to see what would have happened had Cloud not basically handed that game on a platter.
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