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Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
April 25 2011 20:22 GMT
#1941
wow gretorp wasn't good up to this point
but i kinda feel like his cast today was about 10 times worse...

and his strange storys...
his search for words...
his fight "predictions" (boxer vs sen match3 lol)

but the worst of all:
he is talking as if he's just about to fall asleep...all. the. time....
this calm monotone voice...i don't know what changed or if i just didn't notice yet..
but that's just terrible <.<
"If you can chill....chill!"
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
April 25 2011 20:22 GMT
#1942
Boxer is clearly at a new level in sc2 now compared to 2-3 month ago.
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 20:24:14
April 25 2011 20:23 GMT
#1943
I dont understand why do Z player always make these rediculous amounts of Drone Batches? let me explain a bit I play Random so Z too.

And I know the other Races have nearly constant Workerproduction BUT why Batches of 15 Drones I guess when you lose some in Battle and what not then it is ok but was it actually calculated how many drones you should produce in a Batch in comparission to stay even with the other Races for example every x sec make x drones calculated out should be the Z buildings of course. so I think if you feel the need to make Drones and you didnt lose any to aggression then about 5 Drones every Batch should be enough that leaves the rest for Units to not die.

Any thoughts
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Fritsc
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 20:25:23
April 25 2011 20:24 GMT
#1944
It's because Zerg players save larvae for units if there's any aggression coming up. Sen didn't scout the army and he waited till his 3rd is up, and then after his 3rd his up he thought he's safe and then make 15 drones to instantly saturate his 3rd.
I love Tasteless and Artosis so much!!
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 20:29:52
April 25 2011 20:28 GMT
#1945
was naywhere stated already how far they are with the Paypal Option.

I really wanna support NASL and want the Vods but only with Paypal Option.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
April 25 2011 20:29 GMT
#1946
just wanted to say that the difference from the start in the casting and chemistry coming from incontrol and gretorp has changed and it's gotten better, alot better. You've also found your own style and it's really great to see and hear. Keep up the great work guys!
Do you really want chat rooms?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 25 2011 20:31 GMT
#1947
On April 26 2011 05:23 LoCaD wrote:
I dont understand why do Z player always make these rediculous amounts of Drone Batches? let me explain a bit I play Random so Z too.

And I know the other Races have nearly constant Workerproduction BUT why Batches of 15 Drones I guess when you lose some in Battle and what not then it is ok but was it actually calculated how many drones you should produce in a Batch in comparission to stay even with the other Races for example every x sec make x drones calculated out should be the Z buildings of course. so I think if you feel the need to make Drones and you didnt lose any to aggression then about 5 Drones every Batch should be enough that leaves the rest for Units to not die.

Any thoughts


Better to make 15 drones now and 15 units next batch than to make 5 drones now and 10 units now and 10 drones and 5 units next patch, even though the units you get are the same, because a drone now is more valuable than a drone later (mining time etc.).

More drones now means more units later, instead of some drones + some units now.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
April 25 2011 20:34 GMT
#1948
Highlights are nice, but please make it clear. I just tuned in and had no idea what was going on.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
April 25 2011 20:34 GMT
#1949
The casting has improved, the production has improved, rebroadcast times are pretty much perfect, NASL has won me over!
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 25 2011 20:55 GMT
#1950
On April 26 2011 05:22 phisku wrote:
Boxer is clearly at a new level in sc2 now compared to 2-3 month ago.


I think he went back to his original level right before the TSL ro8 and stepped up a new level right after it.. that's how fighting levels work apparently.
TicketoHELL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada368 Posts
April 25 2011 21:04 GMT
#1951
On April 26 2011 05:55 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 05:22 phisku wrote:
Boxer is clearly at a new level in sc2 now compared to 2-3 month ago.


I think he went back to his original level right before the TSL ro8 and stepped up a new level right after it.. that's how fighting levels work apparently.

well TSL ro8 was a tvp and that has been his worst matchup ever since bw it just been shadowed by his underwhelming tvz until his game versus Sen in TSL
(づ.ㅡ) 부비적 (ㅡ.ど) 부비적 (づ.ど) 부비부비
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
April 25 2011 21:09 GMT
#1952
Boxer won again YESS that was sexy play by him!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
April 25 2011 21:20 GMT
#1953
On April 26 2011 05:22 phisku wrote:
Boxer is clearly at a new level in sc2 now compared to 2-3 month ago.


yep. he still needs to work on macro though
+ Show Spoiler +
not really that spoilerific but he floated tons of resources in game3
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
April 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#1954
On April 26 2011 05:23 LoCaD wrote:
I dont understand why do Z player always make these rediculous amounts of Drone Batches? let me explain a bit I play Random so Z too.

And I know the other Races have nearly constant Workerproduction BUT why Batches of 15 Drones I guess when you lose some in Battle and what not then it is ok but was it actually calculated how many drones you should produce in a Batch in comparission to stay even with the other Races for example every x sec make x drones calculated out should be the Z buildings of course. so I think if you feel the need to make Drones and you didnt lose any to aggression then about 5 Drones every Batch should be enough that leaves the rest for Units to not die.

Any thoughts

Part of it has to do with chrono boost and mules, we need to do big drone pumps to stay competitive with the economy of protoss/terran. Mules give a lot of bonus income and chrono boost means protoss can make probes pretty darn quick. And also, zerg is supposed to be somewhat ahead of Protoss/Terran's economy in order to be considered even.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 25 2011 21:43 GMT
#1955
On April 26 2011 06:20 I)etox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 05:22 phisku wrote:
Boxer is clearly at a new level in sc2 now compared to 2-3 month ago.


yep. he still needs to work on macro though
+ Show Spoiler +
not really that spoilerific but he floated tons of resources in game3

you don't have to spoiler results in LR threads^^
My favorites won today! yay
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 22:56:29
April 25 2011 22:55 GMT
#1956
I'm pretty damn impressed with Zenio's ZvP.
+ Show Spoiler +
He played very aggressive, almost all game, and still managed to get to 80+ drones on 5 or 6 bases in game two, at which point he just crushed mana. Game 1 was pretty entertaining as well, very non-standard.


Also, I don't understand all the Gretorp hate. Day one was a bit off, but he's gotten pretty good, and has good chemistry with both iNcontrol and Khaldor.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
ShadowBumble
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands87 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 11:28:19
April 26 2011 11:27 GMT
#1957
Is the sound finally fixed ? i Kinda stopped watching because the sound was just horrible and almost not understandable unless i putted everything at 100% and was in a quiet room.

( So i can start watching the vods to catch up again )
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
April 26 2011 11:35 GMT
#1958
On April 26 2011 05:22 Ohdamn wrote:
wow gretorp wasn't good up to this point
but i kinda feel like his cast today was about 10 times worse...

and his strange storys...
his search for words...
his fight "predictions" (boxer vs sen match3 lol)

but the worst of all:
he is talking as if he's just about to fall asleep...all. the. time....
this calm monotone voice...i don't know what changed or if i just didn't notice yet..
but that's just terrible <.<


I have to agree with you. I'm not trying to troll, but Gretorp sounded seriously baked the whole time. It's not annoying or anything to me, it just completely misses that hyping factor that you get when you listen to Artosis and Tasteless cast.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 12:00:22
April 26 2011 11:59 GMT
#1959
wrong thread - sorry.
keep it deep! @zulison
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 16:49:06
April 26 2011 16:47 GMT
#1960
Aaagh wrong thread, my bad. That's two in a row.
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