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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3821
On April 24 2011 05:39 jakeitup wrote:
"thorzain thorzain thorzain, thorzain. Thorzain thorzain." That's all we are hearing from these guys, what about MC?


Did you even watch game two? They spent practically the whole game discussing the merits of MC's build. They only started to talk about Thorzain when Artosis mentioned his huge number of vikings.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3822
On April 24 2011 05:38 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 05:36 mTw|NarutO wrote:
I really don't know why ThorZaiN does play semi-allin. If he wants to all-in to end the game because he's behind by a lot - why not send all scvs? If you all in, DO ACTUALLY ALL-IN. If you play it with only 50% of its power - its not worth doing it.

yeah this, if he has all his SCV with him, the battle may very well be difference.


There's a middleground where you might want to bring enough scvs to e.g. kill the nexus but don't expect to actually kill everything right there and then. If you bring all scvs, he will bring all probes putting you down significantly. If you don't bring all scvs, he can't pull all probes from mining because he knows you have some left + mules.
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Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3823
On April 24 2011 05:40 HardCorey wrote:
did he just Nexus before.. anything? thats awesome.

Lol, its really standard on this map yo
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3824
On April 24 2011 05:40 MajorityofOne wrote:
The MC fast-expand....Polt showed the weak spot of this build, but if ThorZain doesn't take advantage MC is going to get a big lead

Thorzain vs MC with Polt timing attack?
That'd be EPIC
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3825
On April 24 2011 05:40 tarath wrote:
MC should 4-gate, I'd guarantee a win with no ramp and 1rax FE.

Or proxy gate.
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Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3826
Cross positions Taldarim is fun :D
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3827
Hoping for MC to win at least 1 major macro game. However, he just didnt seem up to the task in the first 2 games.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Meser87
Profile Joined April 2011
United States476 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3828
the key to this game, does MC get upgrades?
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3829
On April 24 2011 05:40 HardCorey wrote:
did he just Nexus before.. anything? thats awesome.

He did that against Polt in the GSL. If you know how well that went, you'll know that it's not awesome.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Semtext
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany287 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3830
On April 24 2011 05:37 KasdaTheEmperor wrote:
Someone sum up the first 2 games of MC vs Thorzain..please? didnt catch them =(



Thorzain just plainly outplayed MC in the first two. i know that is hard to believe, but he did. both games he had 2/2 upgrades on bio when MC had none at all, nice overall unit micro vs colossus in game 1, and even the disadvantage of having gone for 14 vikings kind of blindly and MC completely skipping colossus for HT could not keep Thorzain from landing all these bad boys and chaingunning the shit out of the protoss until gg.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3831
On April 24 2011 05:38 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 05:36 mTw|NarutO wrote:
I really don't know why ThorZaiN does play semi-allin. If he wants to all-in to end the game because he's behind by a lot - why not send all scvs? If you all in, DO ACTUALLY ALL-IN. If you play it with only 50% of its power - its not worth doing it.

yeah this, if he has all his SCV with him, the battle may very well be difference.


I think the problem is that if you Bit-By Bit prime all in, then you have no hope of still playing. You have to end it RIGHT there. Now remember if he had sent all his scvs, even if he had managed to kill that nexus, MC could just sit at the top of his ramp and FF it. Then the longer that "stand off" went on, the better position MC was in.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3832
On April 24 2011 05:38 koolaid1990 wrote:
who was the idiot who said 3-0 thorzain

Why would somebody be an idiot for saying that when the series was 2-0 at the time?
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
April 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#3833
On April 24 2011 05:39 Roe wrote:
Chill:"Both these players are in Europe, there are no lag issues."
that's the end of that.


But Koreans don't lose except to lag or other extenuating circumstances. MC brought the Korean lag with him! :S

I don't know who to cheer for anymore. Everyone I cheer for gets knocked out. I want to see MC to the finals but Thorzain is such a boss. Maybe the Emperor will retake his throne, but with the likes of Thorzain...
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3834
On April 24 2011 05:40 HardCorey wrote:
did he just Nexus before.. anything? thats awesome.


Adelscott did that just an hour ago... 15 nexus isn't uncommon.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3835
On April 24 2011 05:38 brachester wrote:
is that just me or artosis being kind of biased in this match (like always)? saying every single moves of thorzain is perfect, beautiful and such, i expect a lot more from a high level commentator like that.


Yeah, there's a bit of it. I'd say it's pretty had to be completely unbiased, though. Everyone has their preferred players - especially people who love the game as much as Artosis. (He was all over Thorzain's nuts about putting "wp" after the gg, though - that was a bit much)
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3836
On April 24 2011 05:40 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 05:38 koolaid1990 wrote:
who was the idiot who said 3-0 thorzain

how would that be idiotic? If ThorZain didn't allin that game he would have had a better chance. As in, ThorZain beat MC playing standard 2 games in a row and then goes all-in wtf?


Well even if he isn't as confident in all-ins as macro games I think it's a good move when you are 2-0.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3837
On April 24 2011 05:41 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 05:39 Roe wrote:
Chill:"Both these players are in Europe, there are no lag issues."
that's the end of that.


But Koreans don't lose except to lag or other extenuating circumstances. MC brought the Korean lag with him! :S


jetlag. obviously!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3838
15-nexus into 4-gate. TIME FOR AN ALL IN, RIGHT GUYS!?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3839
On April 24 2011 05:41 FinestHour wrote:
Such a long walk distance, macro game incoming?


For the terran, yes the terran has to macro otherwise he is dead. For the protoss? Not so much, he can just do 4/6 warpgate all in if he wants. These maps are really silly and are a pretty big problem TvP.

Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 23 2011 20:42 GMT
#3840
I would love to see some of MC's heavy forcefield play as well.
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