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On April 24 2011 05:25 lahey wrote:
pretty obvious there are some huge lag issues in this match, 2-2 upgrades dont help when u r completely out comped in unit composition... hard to take these kind of matches seriously when lag is such a HUGE issue
Pretty obvious you can't listen at all, these games were played on the EU server when MC was in the EU.
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On April 24 2011 05:25 HardCorey wrote:
Apparently landed vikings are actually pretty good against gateway units.
Almost everything is really good against gw units :D
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On April 24 2011 05:24 Vorenius wrote:This looked pretty ridiculous. How can you have FOURTEEN vikings against pure ground units and still come out miles ahead? And against MC? I guess upgrades are kinda good...  Nice call
Because MC had few stalkers and many zealots due to upgrading charge.
Vikings on the ground do pretty significant damage to light units, as well as being armored units themselves. Vikings on the ground beat zealots with a little backup, which is exactly what ThorZain had.
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On April 24 2011 05:25 nehcnhoj wrote:
So sorry, was where MC was playing from mentioned anytime during the stream?
They're both on the EU server. No lag.
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On April 24 2011 05:25 nehcnhoj wrote:
So sorry, was where MC was playing from mentioned anytime during the stream?
He's playing from Europe, as well as Thorzain. You can't blame lag.
MC is in Denmark and Thorzain's in Sweden. Check it out on a map.
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Question: are all races able to get upgrades at basically the same time? As in, do the 3 upgrade buildings for the first set of units have the same build time, and same research time? Because that should constitute Protoss always being ahead due to Chronoboost.
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On April 24 2011 05:26 Strike_ wrote:
And now thorzain loses 3-2 with the last game involving some proxy gates
I had exactly the same thought :D
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TSL3 getting dominated by the EU pros. Thorzain fighting! Even though it's sad to see Protoss lose, the lack of upgrdaes really gimped MC in that critical engagement. No colossi or anything to support those non-upgraded gateway units.
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On April 24 2011 05:26 revoN wrote:
Is MC actually losing or what?! There's no way he can lose to a foreigner (a full bo) right?
IMO as Protoss if someone is 2 full upgrades ahead of you on both attack and armor you've made a pretty huge error. MC has made a pretty huge error in both games. Looking very mortal.
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Impressive play by Thorzain. Good games so far.
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On April 24 2011 05:25 lahey wrote:
pretty obvious there are some huge lag issues in this match, 2-2 upgrades dont help when u r completely out comped in unit composition... hard to take these kind of matches seriously when lag is such a HUGE issue
hahahahahahaha
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On April 24 2011 05:25 bRuTaL!! wrote:
Bracket exploding everywhere?
They exploded a long time ago
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On April 24 2011 05:26 Integra wrote:
Problem was that MC had invested gas in templars which are good against marines and marauders, not as good against mech, like vikings. and btw, MC only knows how to 4-5 warpgate rush, seriously. Second game where he has 0-0 upgrades despite being able to boost upgrades.
Saying he only knows how to warpgate rush is ridiculous he can play plenty of other styles, but thorzain played amazingly ontop of slack play by mc ending up in that stomping.
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On April 24 2011 05:25 nehcnhoj wrote:
So sorry, was where MC was playing from mentioned anytime during the stream?
He played those games from Denmark. There was no delay on his site. Which makes this even more incredible^^
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if he still waits 15 minutes to get upgrades again, im going to RAGE! lol
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On April 24 2011 05:25 nehcnhoj wrote:
So sorry, was where MC was playing from mentioned anytime during the stream?
Yes he is playing from denmark
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I think MC could've won that big battle in game 2, he could've beaten the big 2-2 upgrade push if he wasn't horrifically out of position. HTs too far behind, stalkers getting pummelled without zealots to protect them, forcefields no longer being useful due to the lack of stalkers...
I think Psi Storm was exactly the right thing to do. If you're against a more upgraded force, you have to get around the upgrades using spells which don't take them into account. Shame MC wasn't able to capitalise on it though.
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MCs builds are pretty weird I don't know why he's going Voidray/templar/chargelots/no ups. Seems like he's getting everything. Haven't really seen that in his GSL games.
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On April 24 2011 05:24 Durp wrote:
Upgrades > Gosu Micro.
Bronze leaguers take notes
LOL - that was funny!!! thanks for the tip
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EPT
