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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On April 22 2011 16:08 Seditary wrote: I saw a bit over 12k at one point but I wasn't checking that much. I saw 13.9k at one point, but that was just before the stream went down. Even if it was like for 30 seconds, the viewer count dropped after that. | ||
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Saragas
Germany431 Posts
1.) Gone to the VOD section, they say its 1080p, but it doesnt look like it. 2.) How do you switch from Game 1 to GAme 2 and so on?  | ||
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acidstormy
United States191 Posts
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edward.IGN
47 Posts
On April 22 2011 16:52 tarath wrote: I got to game 2 but now can't get to game 3 :/ arrg Those are very valid concerns guys, we'll definitely try to address that first thing tomorrow. With all the emphasis on spoiler-free VOD's (as you know some of the issues that we've come across with those), we'll try to provide something for those trying to skip to later games too. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On April 22 2011 17:02 Saragas wrote: Questions: 1.) Gone to the VOD section, they say its 1080p, but it doesnt look like it. 2.) How do you switch from Game 1 to GAme 2 and so on? You need to click the HD button. | ||
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edward.IGN
47 Posts
Let us know if you have any other questions! | ||
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roofs
Canada112 Posts
The commentary is nice. Though, TB misses out on a lot of key things, which is mostly excusable because of his lack of game sense/knowledge. One moment I remember was that vibe sent in his mutalisks to kill off sentries in a protoss death ball (which I thought was a brilliant play because of how useful sentries are), but TB missed the whole thing and thought vibe just made a mistake. It feels like all IPL needs is another caster to help out with the analytical aspect of casting. This I find is an extremely important facet for SC2 casts, as it allows the common viewer to learn and understand what is generally going on. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 22 2011 13:02 fadestep wrote: Are you so above criticism you can't respond to it in an intelligible fashion? A professional would work on his flaws, not make snarky remarks about others pointing them out. No, but since I am capable of critical thinking, I am also capable of distinguishing what is subjective personal preference and what is actual constructive criticism. That post was the former. Do not think that the opinions of random posters are actually important, they aren't. Nobody cares if you dislike my accent, think I speak too faster, don't analyse enough for your tastes etc, you are one in a very large group of people and one of a small minority actually complaining. Do you really think I could create online media for a living and actually listen to everyone's personal opinion of how I should do things without going insane? The internet is a nasty echo chamber full of people who think their opinion represents more than just their own personal likes and dislikes, completely incapable of objective thought. Critical thinking and the ability to constructively criticise well is a skill that most people do not have and as a result, they should be ignored. Constructive criticism is always taken into account, your personal opinion however is no more relevant to how the tournament or my casting progresses than what kind of music you like. Some people find this upsetting, but it's no different to how every other media producer works, they are just less honest about it. Do you think a television producer cares if you don't like one of their actor's accents? No, of course not, it's subjective, you can't please everyone. They might be interested to hear about some facts they've got wrong though, so if you're able to point that out, more power to you. That is the difference between constructive criticism and subjective opinion. One moment I remember was that vibe sent in his mutalisks to kill off sentries in a protoss death ball (which I thought was a brilliant play because of how useful sentries are), but TB missed the whole thing and thought vibe just made a mistake. He did make a mistake. He lost 8 mutas for the prize of 4 sentries. Most people in chat and in the thread also believed it wasn't worth it. You cannot objectively say it was worthwhile (or that it wasn't), so the call should be taken as my personal opinion and nothing more than that (ie. not that important) | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:03 TotalBiscuit wrote: No, but since I am capable of critical thinking, I am also capable of distinguishing what is subjective personal preference and what is actual constructive criticism. That post was the former. Do not think that the opinions of random posters are actually important, they aren't. Nobody cares if you dislike my accent, think I speak too faster, don't analyse enough for your tastes etc, you are one in a very large group of people and one of a small minority actually complaining. Do you really think I could create online media for a living and actually listen to everyone's personal opinion of how I should do things without going insane? The internet is a nasty echo chamber full of people who think their opinion represents more than just their own personal likes and dislikes, completely incapable of objective thought. Critical thinking and the ability to constructively criticise well is a skill that most people do not have and as a result, they should be ignored. Constructive criticism is always taken into account, your personal opinion however is no more relevant to how the tournament or my casting progresses than what kind of music you like. Some people find this upsetting, but it's no different to how every other media producer works, they are just less honest about it. Do you think a television producer cares if you don't like one of their actor's accents? No, of course not, it's subjective, you can't please everyone. They might be interested to hear about some facts they've got wrong though, so if you're able to point that out, more power to you. That is the difference between constructive criticism and subjective opinion. He did make a mistake. He lost 8 mutas for the prize of 4 sentries. Most people in chat and in the thread also believed it wasn't worth it. Haters gonna hate but don't let those maggots bring you down TB, ur a f*cking baller. | ||
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kuroshiro
United Kingdom378 Posts
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Kojaimea
United Kingdom277 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:55 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm touched, a novel has been written about me. Perhaps you should listen to the criticism, rather than deeming yourself above it. Many people (myself included) share this opinion, and you are not making any more by fans taking this stance. | ||
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oo inflame oo
United States286 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 22 2011 18:48 Kojaimea wrote: Perhaps you should listen to the criticism, rather than deeming yourself above it. Many people (myself included) share this opinion, and you are not making any more by fans taking this stance. Listening to uninformed criticism is as bad as asking a bronze leaguer about balance. Do not make the mistake of believing that all criticism is created equal. There is not a word of value in that entire post that can be listened to or learned from, it is all subjective preference and delivered in a particularly venomous manner. There's been plenty of good constructive criticism given in this thread and it's all been read and taken into account. This is not one of them. I am not 'above' criticism, what I am above is mistakenly believing that taking everyone's rants to heart is a good idea. You wouldn't want Blizzard to make game balance changes based on the opinions of some random dude, so why would you want IGN or me to make changes based on comments that amount to "I don't like his accent" and "he shouts too much"? Those aren't actionable criticisms anymore than not liking the sound of the ingame music is. What I would like to encourage, is a higher quality of criticism. Constructive criticism is the most valuable thing a viewer can ever provide to a caster or organisation. The problem is when people mistake their subjective opinion for constructive criticism. It's totally ok if people don't have the time or inclination to provide it, but it isn't ok to pretend that something is useful when it isn't. You know how much I've learned from people saying 'hey TB, that call you made was wrong, here's why', 'That doesn't indicate X build, this does' or just general suggestions like 'Why don't you check out Liquipedia and throw in some facts like recent tournament wins into cast to improve your colour commentary'? Tons, it's really helped improve my casting and I dearly hope people continue to do that. It will get listened to. Hey TotalBiscuit, stop. Your time is too valuable to write these long responses to these complainers. Nah it ain't. A community where spectators, commentators, pros and organisers can openly and frankly discuss issues pertaining to the future of eSports without one of them getting upset, taking their ball and going home, is a very good thing imho. | ||
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PolarIce
United States2 Posts
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
We really need a way to get to the individual matches of the different sets without watching at the bracket though (this way you spoiler yourself before watching the VODs). | ||
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Blackthorne
Norway69 Posts
I'm also impressed by how TB answers a lot of people here, and thankfully he seems very aware of the fact that many, many people enjoy listening to him. | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
When he casts it's like listening to British football (yes that's soccer) commentators, which is awesome. | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
i.e. no spoilers, but easy to skip to the game if we just want to see the highest recommended | ||
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Kojaimea
United Kingdom277 Posts
On April 22 2011 19:04 TotalBiscuit wrote: Listening to uninformed criticism is as bad as asking a bronze leaguer about balance. Do not make the mistake of believing that all criticism is created equal. There is not a word of value in that entire post that can be listened to or learned from, it is all subjective preference and delivered in a particularly venomous manner. There's been plenty of good constructive criticism given in this thread and it's all been read and taken into account. This is not one of them. I am not 'above' criticism, what I am above is mistakenly believing that taking everyone's rants to heart is a good idea. You wouldn't want Blizzard to make game balance changes based on the opinions of some random dude, so why would you want IGN or me to make changes based on comments that amount to "I don't like his accent" and "he shouts too much"? Those aren't actionable criticisms anymore than not liking the sound of the ingame music is. What I would like to encourage, is a higher quality of criticism. Constructive criticism is the most valuable thing a viewer can ever provide to a caster or organisation. The problem is when people mistake their subjective opinion for constructive criticism. It's totally ok if people don't have the time or inclination to provide it, but it isn't ok to pretend that something is useful when it isn't. So where do you draw the line between subjective opinion and constructive criticism? 'There are no facts, only interpretations' -Nietzsche. Opinion, or interpretation, is the basis of constructive criticism. You are making a distinction, subjective opinion vs constructive criticism, based on your own subjective opinion. To discount a huge swathe of valuable criticism, just because you don't deem it as such (for whatever reason), is not only foolish, but undermines the community you are a part of. | ||
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