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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 11 2011 20:01 GMT
#521
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 11 2011 20:02 GMT
#522
If it were Naniwa that would have gone he surely would have got an auto seed just based on his MLG win and recent success. Sase is a little more doubtful imo.
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
May 11 2011 20:02 GMT
#523
On May 12 2011 05:01 hugman wrote:
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed.

Sase could go win dreamhack and then go to korea though, I'd guess that would qualify as a major tournament.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 11 2011 20:03 GMT
#524
On May 12 2011 04:59 .Enigma. wrote:
Sooo, SaSe will be staying with Doa and Moletrap then. That's pretty cool.


More likely Wolf and Moletrap unless I miss my guess.

GG Sase, such a mannerbear.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
May 11 2011 20:06 GMT
#525
Very nice interview from SaSe. Crossing fingers that they upload it to YT so I or someone else can translate.
kapistar
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland17 Posts
May 11 2011 20:08 GMT
#526
Poor Nani ;(
Maybe he'll win TSL3 at least
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 20:19:56
May 11 2011 20:19 GMT
#527
I'm actually quite happy that Sase won. He will get a chance that he probably wouldn't have gotten elseway.
Nani has Dignitas' support, and such a high-profile team will surely be able to send a player to the GSL whenever they wanted to. Maybe Nani will go to Korea anyway. If not, he will now still be able to qualify for ESL Campus Party, maybe participate in the next Homestory cup, and surely be able to attend MLG Anaheim (all these events will collide with the next GSL season in one way or another). Whereas I totally cheered for you, Nani, I am quite happy that I can keep watching more of your play in EU tournaments
On another note, we got to see a glimpse of the new PvP today. 4gate is not dead, and in the right spawning positions on bigger maps we can see some great strats and BOs. I loved the DT->Archon transition from Nani on TalDarim
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Rasky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States406 Posts
May 11 2011 20:26 GMT
#528
So is this tournament to see who gets to be inside of the team house in Korea or does the player get put straight into code A as well?
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
May 11 2011 20:27 GMT
#529
I think nani could have dominated in code s, sad he lose.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
May 11 2011 20:30 GMT
#530
On May 12 2011 04:58 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O


Wow, very well mannered. Didn´t see missmicro by Nani, but perhaps I just don´t see things like this. After this statement I must say I really hope both can go to Korea...



Latency doesn't necessarily mean noticeable mistakes like mis-micro, but it also affects many tiny things that spectators might not grasp, and more importantly, affects the mindset of the player (namely, the fear of it *potentially* affecting play).

It's why we see some Koreans who seemingly play "normally" without any large mistakes in online tournaments, but still end up losing to simple things, and more importantly, never show any amazing control or decisions. When the skill difference isn't large, ordinary play might not be able to win certain situations in certain games. Like, when we see amazing "starsense" or perfectly crisp battle management from players like Bomber or mvp that can instantly pull them ahead of another player - such play will almost never happen on games affected by high latency.

The skill difference between Naniwa and SaSe isn't large, and thus, the crisp execution and micro we usually see from Naniwa might not have been so crisp (but not noticeable enough for spectators to see), and thus, he loses. Or, he might have had a bad day. Who knows.

Either way, go SaSe!
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
May 11 2011 20:35 GMT
#531
On May 12 2011 04:59 quiet noise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O

No, he said "i dont think i would have had the same chances of beating him if he played on EU"


Well he meant that he wouldnt beat him otherwise, wich I dont think he would've. Jetlagged, NA->EU lag and caught up training for TSL finals.. I mean he didnt even have time to patch his EU copy before the tournament began. But that's also the game. He lost, and that's how it is. The best player doesnt always win. I'm glad for SaSe and I hope he learns alot on Korea. Although I'm kind of sad because it would've been great for the foreign scene to see Naniwa in Korea, because if HuK kan be a code S player then Naniwa sure as hell can wreck shit up over there. Especially with proper training. Let's hope Dignitas sends him anyway, it would be a GREAT investment for them. I hope they realize that.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 20:41:32
May 11 2011 20:38 GMT
#532
On May 12 2011 05:35 Chrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 04:59 quiet noise wrote:
On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O

No, he said "i dont think i would have had the same chances of beating him if he played on EU"


Well he meant that he wouldnt beat him otherwise, wich I dont think he would've. Jetlagged, NA->EU lag and caught up training for TSL finals.. I mean he didnt even have time to patch his EU copy before the tournament began. But that's also the game. He lost, and that's how it is. The best player doesnt always win. I'm glad for SaSe and I hope he learns alot on Korea. Although I'm kind of sad because it would've been great for the foreign scene to see Naniwa in Korea, because if HuK kan be a code S player then Naniwa sure as hell can wreck shit up over there. Especially with proper training. Let's hope Dignitas sends him anyway, it would be a GREAT investment for them. I hope they realize that.


Some are saying that the winner of the TSL gets a free Code A seed (not sure how reliable this information is). So Naniwa will have a good chance anyways - although, I wouldn't mind if Thorzain gets it either.

Edit: also, HuK has always had issues with nerves (but most Koreans who play him on ladder think that he's a beast) - I realize that ladder doesn't mean much when one has to play on TV in front of a live audience, but don't assume that he's a lesser player just because Naniwa has been in better form recently.
Ymiir
Profile Joined May 2011
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 20:43:24
May 11 2011 20:39 GMT
#533
Ymiir
Profile Joined May 2011
3 Posts
May 11 2011 20:42 GMT
#534
On May 12 2011 05:39 Ymiir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 05:02 Sneakyz wrote:
On May 12 2011 05:01 hugman wrote:
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed.

Sase could go win dreamhack and then go to korea though, I'd guess that would qualify as a major tournament.


Sure, and win the 5 next MLG ..... -.-



On May 12 2011 05:27 FinBenton wrote:
I think nani could have dominated in code s, sad he lose.


I'm really laughing hard atm, but i'll stop because i'm kind.
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
May 11 2011 20:44 GMT
#535
Yeah, SaSe also said that he wouldnt stand a chance in Code A right now so I doubt he could take home a LAN event like DH. That's what bums me out a little, Naniwa is totally ready for Code A, and would have an excellent chance of advancing to S already, but we'll see. I guess he could get into Code A via his MLG win as well, right?
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
May 11 2011 20:49 GMT
#536
On May 12 2011 05:42 Ymiir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 05:39 Ymiir wrote:
On May 12 2011 05:02 Sneakyz wrote:
On May 12 2011 05:01 hugman wrote:
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed.

Sase could go win dreamhack and then go to korea though, I'd guess that would qualify as a major tournament.


Sure, and win the 5 next MLG ..... -.-



Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 05:27 FinBenton wrote:
I think nani could have dominated in code s, sad he lose.


I'm really laughing hard atm, but i'll stop because i'm kind.



You are? I don't think there's any foreigner, expect maybe idra, that would do better than Nani in Code S. Not saying he would dominate but.. you know, TSL finals, MLG win, owning his NASL division and hes (as far as I know) a record 36 straight BoX wins..it's hard to say he isnt one of the better protoss in the game right now. I think he could do just fine in Code S. Don't think the rest of the world is that far behind korea.
Ymiir
Profile Joined May 2011
3 Posts
May 11 2011 21:58 GMT
#537
So you think he'll do better than Huk and Jinro just by showing off in Korea someday ?
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
May 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#538
I believe he would beat both Jinro and HuK during internet tournaments and LAN events, he wouldnt be as adjusted to life in Korea though so maybe not right away. But he's a better player than those two, so who knows? If we pick one guy going to Korea though to play in GSL I dont see anyone more suited, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
May 12 2011 17:15 GMT
#539
Nani is the best foreigner player atm, no question to anyone that knows the game, with Idra the only one I could listen to an argument for (no people, thorzain is not in the conversation lol). He would do well in Code A, but getting to code S is extremely hard and a very volatile process. I still think he would, and I'm looking forward to the day he decides to try.
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Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
May 13 2011 17:10 GMT
#540
GOMTV Just announced that SaSe will indeed get Code A http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291
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