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The winner of the tournament will get a payed trip to South Korea and live in the GSL House and compete in the GSL for one month (with possibilities to extend the stay).The trip back and forth to South Korea plus money for subsistence with a total value of 15 000 SEK is what's up for grabs provided by Logitech. There will also be product prizes from Logitech Gaming Gear for top three placers.
This is a Sweden only tournament and the purpose is to create the "next Jinro" to represent Swedish E-sports in the number one Starcraft country South Korea in the best and most competitive Starcraft 2 league in the world, GSL.The winner will be able to decide when during the summer when he wants to attend, so it will not be strict into specific dates. The player will represent himself and his organization, Rakaka and Logitech is only hosting the tournament.
Ten players will be invited and two open qualifiers will be organized. The main tournament will be divided into two groups with six players of round robin, BO3. More information about rules, maps and the invited players will be announced later.
The tournament will be casted in English by http://www.GLHF.tv and Swedish by Rakaka
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/KmZpk.jpg)
Schedule:
Open Qualifiers: 9th and 10th of April (no stream)
19:00 CET 13th of April Group play
19:00 CET 20th of April Group play
19:00 CET 27th of April Group play
19:00 CET 4th of May Group play
19:00 CET 11th of May Semifinals + Final
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/6nlw1.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK9z0glI2Pw
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No SjoW?
I guess he doesn't want to go
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G&E ftw, I sometimes tune in just to hear your angelic voices.
Quite a strong lineup, I'd LOVE to see Naniwa give GSL a go!
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cool concept :D
will watch
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pressing my thumbs for morrow, lalush and thorzain 
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On April 13 2011 06:47 hugman wrote:
No SjoW?
I guess he doesn't want to go
The house in Sweden was just announced and he's staying there, so that's expected.
Naniwa or Thorzain takes it imo
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Fury and Cyto hwaiting! Some awesome players and TheGunrun and LeonStarcraft partnership keeps things fresh and exciting.
I look forward to this!
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Really looking forward to this cup! Top class players attending.
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Cant wait for this with so many awesome players + some great commentators as already mentioned thegunrun and leonstarcraft.
Should be some nice games to see :D.
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nani deserves to go and have a shot at it
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Really happy to be apart of this, great concept with some fantastic players.
Hope a lot of you tune in for the action
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woo great tournament woo leons casting, looking forward to the tournament, woo great players, woo leonstarcraft woo.
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Awesome! Can't wait to watch the matchups.
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sucks that only the winner is going to go compete in GSL i would love to see nani, morrow, and thorzain in GSL
still great nonetheless :D
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Yoyo! Leon ftw man, that guy once started on a roll; literally has me in stitches with his jokes.
Deadly serious, this caster lineup; Beaut!
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"Sweden only tournament" means you have to be a swedish citizen, or is it enough to be in Sweden? =)
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Great, I was wondering about the streaming of this!! The same guys that put together dreamhack inv. is behind this.
lol @ teaser video.
On April 13 2011 08:10 jaydee81 wrote:
"Sweden only tournament" means you have to be a swedish citizen, or is it enough to be in Sweden? =)
I think you must be swedish, but the open bracket has already been played anyway.
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Lots of good players fighting. Nice to see Leon casting =D Especially with gunrun, I know those two work well together.
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ThorZain is just looking so solid right now, I hope he gets this chance.
To be fair, I haven't seen many of the players on this list, so that'll be great too.
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Rooting hard for Nani or Thorzain to win! I'd like to see them both participate in the GSL.
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Event looks really nice, with some big names, Naniwa to take it.
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I would absolutely LOVE to see Naniwa or Thorzain in the GSL.
Morrow as well but I thought he had that house-thingie going on in Sweden.
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Fury! Great to see another former member of 4K and the WC3 crowd
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So excited to hear Gunrun casting again, I haven't heard him in quite a while. This is an exciting tournament, going to have to think Nani will win it!
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Looking forward to the tournament. Don't be surprised if Jimpo wins the whole tournament  .
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All these guys are Swedish??? WOW
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Translation:
BSW
clanless - terran
- Has practised with pink headphones
- Has a cat which always chews on the mouse cord when he's playing
- Won the second open qualifier for Rakaka and Logitechs tournament
I lol'd
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On April 13 2011 23:11 Ezze wrote:
All these guys are Swedish??? WOW
And SjoW and Jinro, two of our biggest superstars aren't even in it
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Would love to know when MorroW and Nani are playing some more information would be nice. As it says group play is today? But what are the groups :D? I imagine all the information is in sweedish on some sweedish website rofl.
O wait didn't read the post above there up above haha. But Morrow and Nani in the same group :o. Means we could see them in the finals :D.
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I really hope that Thorzain wins, he deserves it!
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Hope there we will be vods, becuase i will miss stream tonight 
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why morrow compte? i thought he decided to stay with tlo team
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On April 14 2011 00:23 namedplayer wrote:
why morrow compte? i thought he decided to stay with tlo team
Why wouldn't he it's only a month during the summer, might as well take the chance
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the english stream hasn't started yet v_V
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http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16555 for the swedish live stream.
GLHF had some problems and will livestream replays later. Come on in an watch it, if you dont understand swedish gogo listen to some awesome music or just know that swedish is like english, but backwards
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Due to issues with sponsors, we are unable to do a live English cast of "Road to Korea!". We will be doing live replay broadcasting later tonight, stay tuned.
Kakaka's Stream: http://www.justin.tv/rakakase
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Great concept, great players, great everything. :D
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Can someone post some scores on here thanks . I can't watch atm got work .
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Still in first game between Mover and Lalush.
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11 Players, 3 Zergs, hmm...I would say morrow but i'm going to be rooting for LaLush, gogo.
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Dunno why, but stream's pretty choppy for me.
Anyway will be interesting. Wanna see thorzain play.
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Mill.Lalush takes the series 2-0 convincingly, but mover feared lalush to much, didn't put pressure on even with a 2rax opening.
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can't understand swedish.. could someone explain why lalush did not have baneling speed?
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Mover vs Thorzain up next.
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The commentaters could do a better job, in perticualar  NaNiwa. Apart from that I think it's great to have a Swedish event like this. And holy cow, there's alot of Starcraft2 to watch these days
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Naniwa just stated that he would love to go up against MC in Copenhagen :D
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Thorzain vs Mover, 0-1.
Mover did a huge drop in Thorzains main and obliterated everything. Thorzain tried for a base trade but didn't have enough stuff.
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Commantators aren't top class but games are still pretty entertaining.
Mover-ThorZain 1-0
Naniwa basically babysits one of the them in analysis and the third guy just swears and screams when a baneling blows up.
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Gogo Naniwa! I think he has the best chance to make it.
Oh, and as a thank you to Logitech: MC was using the Logitech G9x mouse at Dreamhack Invitiational! I also use it myself and it's awesome.
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On April 14 2011 03:30 Questo wrote:
ThorZaIN FIGHTING!!! <3
It really doesn't look good for him.
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Damn, who's this Mover guy? Absolutely wrecking ThorZain. :<
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On April 14 2011 03:37 EpicQQ wrote:
Damn, who's this Mover guy? Absolutely wrecking ThorZain. :<
He's pretty good. Never heard of him before.
Edit: that was epic blue flame harass though
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lol this game is insane
35 minutes
30 vs 31 supply
edit: why did thorzain gg? =(
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I didn't expect  ThorZaIN to play like this
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That was a bit of a weird GG, right? Seems to me that Thorzain was in a pretty good position with th gold base and all.
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commentating is different from what we are used to, but i like it
dont think thorzain should have left btw
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Does anyone have a link to the brackets?
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Cytoplasm & Modulen - Uppsala represent!!!!!~~~~~~~~~
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Pretty sweet with a upset so early in the groupstages. Nice to see that the players from the qualifier are giving the pro's a run for their money
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Just found out about this for some reason. It's pretty awesome that this is something that's actually happening. Pretty important tourney in my opinion. Let's see who takes it!
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On April 14 2011 04:04 garbanzo wrote:
Just found out about this for some reason. It's pretty awesome that this is something that's actually happening. Pretty important tourney in my opinion. Let's see who takes it!
Agree. The winner gets a really big opportunity. This far the "no names" are doing pretty damn good!
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SaSe - modulen 0 - 1
In a relatively good pvp.
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Who are the commentators?
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On April 14 2011 04:08 DumEN wrote:
Who are the commentators?
Hellspawn, Nani and slop3.
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Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese :D Modulen failed to build more than one zealot, obviously a nub mistake.
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This is so wierd. Thorzain and sase loses, vs some randoms. Well i've seen mover do good in some ESL cups, but he shouldn't win vs Thorz :\\
ah well, SVEA RIKE FIGHTING!
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Modulen said he got dog hair in the mouse.
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On April 14 2011 04:15 Jiddra wrote:Modulen said he got dog hair in the mouse.
QQ
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Hm so those players really want to go to Korea? Cause every time a player is asked about him going to Korea they answer "Idk, there are so many good tourneys outside of Korea. Maybe I will go to Korea later, now there are too many good tournaments etc etc"
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SaSe won in the end, 2 quite boring games.
On April 14 2011 04:15 Jiddra wrote:Modulen said he got dog hair in the mouse.
Immature joke inc.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On April 14 2011 04:19 Titorelli wrote:
Hm so those players really want to go to Korea? Cause every time a player is asked about him going to Korea they answer "Idk, there are so many good tourneys outside of Korea. Maybe I will go to Korea later, now there are too many good tournaments etc etc"
Since its only for one month i guess its a great opportunity to try it out(though they have an opportunity to extend the stay)
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There is a big difference between moving to korea on your own dollar and trying your luck at getting into the gsl, and winning a spot in GSL before you even leave, a place to stay/train and spending cash.
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This mover guy is playing really well
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Does anyone have a link to the brackets?
Could not find it.
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On April 14 2011 04:47 Redox wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the brackets?
Could not find it.
It's on page 4.
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Bah cytoplasm need to learn to defend with only as many units as needed. Even though speedlings are fast, running with a hundred of them between four bases to defend against a handful of marines in every spot sucks. That eventually killed him when he got sieged up beneath the ramp to his fifth base with his entire army up the ramp.
Well played by mover though, nice to see his unrelenting aggression.
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Hmm, that schedule doesn't make sense at all, unless those are only broadcasted games and the rest are not listed.
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On April 14 2011 05:04 TheBanana wrote:Hmm, that schedule doesn't make sense at all, unless those are only broadcasted games and the rest are not listed.
I don't get it either. It should be more matches, and updates. So far on the stream it has been broadcasted in that order though.
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Group play will take 4 days spread out over 4 weeks.
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On April 14 2011 05:13 Seronei wrote:
Group play will take 4 days spread out over 4 weeks.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
That explains why the schedule is lacking.
Edit: I suddenly realise it says so in the OP.
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Wow, lalush crushed modulen. Talk about roflstomp.
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Could someone post results/schedule? This is confusing. Is it over today?
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Gogo SaSe!!! You have the name of power
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Haha! Lalush against Sase: "gg noob"
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Lalush channeling his inner IdrA
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gg noob! Haha. Oh, Lalush!
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Haha, Lalush pumps drones for too long and calls Sase a noob >:3
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And that's why you can't open Spire vs Protoss
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On April 14 2011 06:34 hugman wrote:
And that's why you can't open Spire vs Protoss
Surprisingly bad play from lalush in both games imo.
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Thorzain is pretty good
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Very interesting tourney. I just got on, was there an English cast earlier or has it just been the Rakaka stream tonight? Gonna follow this for sure, yeaa!
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On April 14 2011 07:07 Bacondemon wrote:
Very interesting tourney. I just got on, was there an English cast earlier or has it just been the Rakaka stream tonight? Gonna follow this for sure, yeaa!
From TheGunrun earlier in this thread "Due to issues with sponsors, we are unable to do a live English cast of "Road to Korea!". We will be doing live replay broadcasting later tonight, stay tuned.
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On April 14 2011 07:04 MrCon wrote:Thorzain is pretty good
didn't he lose 0-2?
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On April 14 2011 07:17 Zzoram wrote:didn't he lose 0-2?
He did, I havn't figured it out how they are doing this tourney yet. Mover lost against lalush and still got to play against thorzain
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On April 14 2011 07:22 Questo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 07:17 Zzoram wrote:On April 14 2011 07:04 MrCon wrote:Thorzain is pretty good didn't he lose 0-2? He did, I havn't figured it out how they are doing this tourney yet. Mover lost against lalush and still got to play against thorzain
its group play, top 2 of each group move on to semi final playoffs.
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did Thorzain lose 2 games to this guy or is this his first loss in this Bo3?
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On April 14 2011 07:25 Zzoram wrote:
did Thorzain lose 2 games to this guy or is this his first loss in this Bo3?
It's 1-1 now, I think.
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On April 14 2011 07:25 Zzoram wrote:
did Thorzain lose 2 games to this guy or is this his first loss in this Bo3?
It's 1-1 vs Cytoplasm.
Edit: slowest person on earth award to me
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Any games still going? Stream link please? Last game should be on right now?
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It's over, but glhf will restream from replays.
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On April 13 2011 06:41 TheGunrun wrote:
Schedule:
Open Qualifiers: 9th and 10th of April (no stream)
19:00 CET 13th of April Group play
19:00 CET 20th of April Group play
19:00 CET 27th of April Group play
19:00 CET 4th of May Group play
19:00 CET 11th of May Semifinals + Final
I thought there are only two groups, with all matches for group one being played yesterday, and those from group two on 20th.
What exactly is played on 27th and 4th?
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naniwa takes it. maybe thorzain. but no. it has to be nani.
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On April 14 2011 21:18 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 06:41 TheGunrun wrote:
Schedule:
Open Qualifiers: 9th and 10th of April (no stream)
19:00 CET 13th of April Group play
19:00 CET 20th of April Group play
19:00 CET 27th of April Group play
19:00 CET 4th of May Group play
19:00 CET 11th of May Semifinals + Final
I thought there are only two groups, with all matches for group one being played yesterday, and those from group two on 20th. What exactly is played on 27th and 4th?
They only played a few of the matches.
For instance Thorzain has played 2 matches, there are 6 people in the group.
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On April 14 2011 21:24 drooL wrote:
naniwa takes it. maybe thorzain. but no. it has to be nani.
I want Lalush in GSL
Naniwa and Sase would be cool to see too.
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Yesterdays show was great. Liked how Naniwa provided commentary.
Also; "So many banelings" in swedish: "hur många gubbar som helst".
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Aaand it's on again it seems. Dunno if GLHF.tv will provide english commentary tonight but the swedish stream over at http://www.rakaka.se/?newsID=16597 is up at least. :D
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Did Thorzain just lose 7 hellions to 2 banelings?
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Shoot, I missed the first day of this tournament? Could anyone spoiler me the results so far?
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On April 28 2011 02:39 TheBanana wrote:
Did Thorzain just lose 7 hellions to 2 banelings?
He had quite the moment there :p
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Oooh, very nice, thanks! :D
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Is there any way to lower the quality? Isn't this standard with justin.tv?
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So much lag that it is unwatchable for me. Worse than some other justin streams.
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Amazing picture of the Gunrun right there.
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Err, lol, wtf was that. Thorzain just runs completely out of position and gg's?^^
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Currently 1-1, deciding game on Metalopolis in close air positions.
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is there english stream anywhere ? gunrun is offline i think
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On April 28 2011 02:59 defuzas wrote:
is there english stream anywhere ? gunrun is offline i think
They might still have some sponsor issues with the english stream. Last week(?) they had to cast from replays on glhf because of that.
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I wonder why the hell a Swedish stream is using justin.tv without utilizing the opinion to be able to lower the resolution. It's the only thing that makes justin.tv work for me here in Sweden, even when I have a fast connection. Stupid...
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On April 28 2011 03:05 nihlon wrote:
I wonder why the hell a Swedish stream is using justin.tv without utilizing the opinion to be able to lower the resolution. It's the only thing that makes justin.tv work for me here in Sweden, even when I have a fast connection. Stupid...
I don't need it, but yeah that is a bit stupid. Anyone know if hellspawn has a twitter account? Shouldn't be hard to fix.
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wooot
thorzain needed to sim city better
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lalush wins! nice to see, loved his bw streams back in the day
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LaLush beats ThorZaIN 2 to 1. Interesting result imo.
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how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0
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ThorZaIN shows that he always prepared really well in TSL, but in an tournament he isnt prepared to the max. It's kind a sad that he lost.
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On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0
+ Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
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Argh ThorZain =/. Han spelade så grymt mycket bättre mot FD.
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On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0
He was too busy on the day when that group played so they postponed the games. I think there is an "article" somewhere on rakaka about it.
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On April 28 2011 03:14 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0 + Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
pls translate or its just a little bit senseless to publish this ^^
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On April 28 2011 03:14 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0 + Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
Thank you!
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That's why I put it in spoiler tags
He felt he was too busy with other stuff, so they let him play later
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On April 28 2011 03:14 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0 + Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
I.... understand!
/proud as hell
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On April 28 2011 03:15 baeric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:14 hugman wrote:On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0 + Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
pls translate or its just a little bit senseless to publish this ^^
It was a swedish poster asking the question, which is probably why he didn't translate. It's basically that's his matches has been postponed due to him having a lot of stuff going on.
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On April 28 2011 03:15 baeric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:14 hugman wrote:On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0 + Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
pls translate or its just a little bit senseless to publish this ^^
Quick translate:
Naniwa's matches postponed because he was at the Gadget Show and had matches in NASL, TSL and BDL. Rakaka chose not to disqualify him and instead let him play at a later time. This was partly because Rakaka didn't plan ahead as good as could be expected. These matches will not be casted but replays will be made available.
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Aww, that's a real bummer about Nani's matches not being casted though
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On April 28 2011 03:40 Fighter wrote:
Aww, that's a real bummer about Nani's matches not being casted though
That basically means that glhf still could cast them though, pretty sure they're just talking about the Rakaka stream.
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SaSe got so insanely good lately. I think he will do well in GSL if he qualifies.
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ROFL!
20(?) Corruptors and like 5 Void Rays + 2 Colossi still survive
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SaSe vs Mover LIVE :D Mover is capable of an upset imo.
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SaSe totally bungled away an army at Mover's 3rd
good thing colossus save the day!
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where can I find results? (scoreboard, bracket ,etc)
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On April 28 2011 04:43 SgtPepper wrote:
where can I find results? (scoreboard, bracket ,etc)
Read the thread, this was asked about 10 posts back
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On April 28 2011 04:43 SgtPepper wrote:
where can I find results? (scoreboard, bracket ,etc)
 The Road to Korea
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On April 28 2011 03:15 baeric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:14 hugman wrote:On April 28 2011 03:13 SayTT wrote:
how come NaNiwa hasnt played a game yet? His score is still at 0-0 + Show Spoiler +NaNiwas matcher uppskjuta till nästa vecka.
Trots detta kunde inte NaNiwa spela sina matcher i tid. Detta berodde dels på att han varit i England under helgen för The Gadget Show samt att han hade TSL, NASL, BDL att spela under de få dagar han var hemma innan nästa turnering. Rakaka stod då mellan alternativen att diskvalificera NaNiwa eller låta honom spela dem vid ett senare tillfälle. Efter en diskussion beslöt vi oss för att göra ett undantag med rådande situation samt att framförhållningen från vår sida inte varit den bästa. Detta skall dock ses som ett undantag då matcherna i normala fall skall spelas live. För tillfället kommer vi tyvärr inte kunna streama NaNiwas matcher i efterhand utan replays kommer att erbjudas.
pls translate or its just a little bit senseless to publish this ^^
NaNiwas games postponed until next week
Despite this NaNiwa could not play his matches on time. This was partially due to being in England during the weekend for The Gadget Show as well as having TSL, NASL and BDL to play during the few days he was at home before the next tournament. Rakaka faced the decision to either disqualify NaNiwa or let him play his games at a later time. After a discussion we decided to make an exception due to the current conditions as well as because we didn't plan ahead very well. This is to be seen as an exception as the games normally should be played live. For the moment we will not be able to stream NaNiwas games but will instead offer replays.
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Thank you! I didn't have time to read all 10 pages :/
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On April 28 2011 04:54 SmoKim wrote:
WUHU GOGO SASE
He is really, really good.
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On April 28 2011 05:00 ellirc wrote:He is really, really good.
mmmh, we are very proud of him ^^
lol Thorzain playing Zerg?!!?!?!?
how can you not like this guy
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LOL. ThorZaIN is playing as Zerg right now.
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Thorzain must be sick of TvP
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iNcontroL
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GUYS
LALUSH LOOKS LIKE A WHITE GRETORP WTFFFFFFF
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On April 28 2011 05:10 iNcontroL wrote:
GUYS
LALUSH LOOKS LIKE A WHITE GRETORP WTFFFFFFF
WTF?
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Had to run some errands so I just got back to this tourney... and uhh, ThorZain is zerg? o_O
Umm. Is this a mistake or is he really off racing? I thought TvT was his worst, I mean... he beat MC afterall...
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On April 28 2011 05:14 Fighter wrote:
Had to run some errands so I just got back to this tourney... and uhh, ThorZain is zerg? o_O
Umm. Is this a mistake or is he really off racing? I thought TvT was his worst, I mean... he beat MC afterall...
Look at the results earlier and you will see
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Watching Roach / Hydra / Corruptor ZvP is rage inducing. It's a fucking worthless unit composition
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MYM.SaSe qualifies and goes undefeated in his group, good job Kim =)
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On April 28 2011 05:35 SmoKim wrote:
MYM.SaSe qualifies and goes undefeated in his group, good job Kim =)
Yup, very nice effort.
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On April 28 2011 05:03 ellirc wrote:
LOL. ThorZaIN is playing as Zerg right now.
:O? Who did he play with Zerg against? Did he win? ^^
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On April 28 2011 05:42 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 05:03 ellirc wrote:
LOL. ThorZaIN is playing as Zerg right now. :O? Who did he play with Zerg against? Did he win? ^^
SaSe.
+ Show Spoiler +He was already out of the tournament so maybe he was just having fun. Didn't play too bad either actually, but of course he lost.
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So, the updated results from today? Cause group 1 finished their matches today did they not?
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SaSe and Lalush advance from group A
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rooting for Naniwa just because I know he really wants it.
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This is sweet, Naniwa, Morrow and Thorzain are the only ones with a real shot I think. My money's on Thorzain. SO GOOD!
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Thorzain and Naniwa don't seem to have the points to survive group stage.
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On April 28 2011 07:55 Zzoram wrote:
Thorzain and Naniwa don't seem to have the points to survive group stage.
Thorzain is out, Naniwa hasn't played yet.
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I hope Naniwa makes it, he has expressed a ton of interest in going to korea and I think it would be good for him.
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Too bad Thorzain didn't make it. I'm sure he would've done well in Korea.
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Hopefully SaSe or Naniwa, i give theese guys the most chances in Korea
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Ah, I must have missed it, but when will Naniwa play his games?=
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I would imagine Naniwa is the only guy out of them all who would be truly determined to go and succeed in Korea.
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Games today:
* 19:15 NaNiWa vs Bischu
* 20:00 MorroW vs BSW
* 20:45 JimpO vs Bischu
* 21:30 NaNiWa vs FuRy
* 22:15 JimpO vs BSW
* 23:00 Bischu vs FuRy
* 23:45 MorroW vs JimpO
* 00:30 FuRy vs BSW
Sucks that they still haven't added the option to lower the resolution for the stream. Lagging like hell for me.
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Intense micro between Nani and Bischu!
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Stream down :'(
edit: obs was dropped from the game
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Can some one post scores as they happen please? I really want MorroW / Nani to go to Korea, those are the only two with real shots in the GSL imo.
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On May 05 2011 02:48 zeru wrote:
as a swede i really dont understand why they would have swedish commentary. every swede starts learning english in the 2nd grade or something.
They apparently had planned a separate English stream if you read the op. Not sure what happened there.
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Naniwa won the third game with 4 gate vs 3gate blink stalkers.
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On May 05 2011 02:49 Benjef wrote:
Can some one post scores as they happen please? I really want MorroW / Nani to go to Korea, those are the only two with real shots in the GSL imo.
Agreed. Thorzain could probably develop nicely in korea as well.
edit: but he's out apparently.
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Are there results anywhere?
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Thanks
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On May 05 2011 02:56 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 02:50 nihlon wrote:On May 05 2011 02:48 zeru wrote:
as a swede i really dont understand why they would have swedish commentary. every swede starts learning english in the 2nd grade or something. They apparently had planned a separate English stream if you read the op. Not sure what happened there. I do know that, what i mean is i dont understand why there even is a swedish stream, are there actually swedes who prefer swedish commentary over english? me and my friends dont, curious if anyone is out there who prefers it...
Exactly the same feeling here. I just can't stand swedish casting actually, I dunno why.
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Its pretty horrible to have to watch a stream in swedish tbh.
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I dunno, I feel it's rather refreshing with a swedish caster. Probably wouldnt want it full time though.
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Can't they just speak english instead of swedish?.. The general skill level of english in sweden is enough to be able to manage an ok cast atleast, that'd open up the stream for everyone and add a way more enjoyable lingo than the swedish one for sc2.
Edited: Realized i sounded a bit bitter.. ^^
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I read your last 3 comments and kept thinking "the Swedish would disagree" but all of you are Swedish... wierd, could it just be the casters?
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Who is playing right now btw? are morrow or naniwa going to make it?
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Who has played today except Nani vs Bischu?
I think it's interesting hearing some swedish casting.
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Ya, swedish simply isn't suited for SC commentary. Doesn't really matter how good the commentator is, it's annoying anyway. =/
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Not updated with todays results, just like OP.
Anyone care to share them?
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On May 05 2011 05:24 arQ wrote:Not updated with todays results, just like OP. Anyone care to share them?
All I know is that Nani beat Bischu 2-1.
I think Morrow won vs BSW but I only saw one game and we was toying with him in that one.
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On May 05 2011 05:16 Holgerius wrote:Ya, swedish simply isn't suited for SC commentary. Doesn't really matter how good the commentator is, it's annoying anyway. =/
I think it's more about the commentators. Right now there is too much stuttering and weird language usage. It will probably get better when the casting duo get some more experience.
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On May 05 2011 05:42 Batch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:16 Holgerius wrote:Ya, swedish simply isn't suited for SC commentary. Doesn't really matter how good the commentator is, it's annoying anyway. =/ I think it's more about the commentators. Right now there is too much stuttering and weird language usage. It will probably get better when the casting duo get some more experience.
I have literally never heard swedish commentary that I could enjoy.
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On May 05 2011 05:43 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:42 Batch wrote:On May 05 2011 05:16 Holgerius wrote:Ya, swedish simply isn't suited for SC commentary. Doesn't really matter how good the commentator is, it's annoying anyway. =/ I think it's more about the commentators. Right now there is too much stuttering and weird language usage. It will probably get better when the casting duo get some more experience. I have literally never heard swedish commentary that I could enjoy.
Neither have I, but I still believe it can be done. ^_^
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I would much rather have english casters. Those guys whos currently comentating are really unproffesional. The guy who speaks the most (dnu name), hes really terrible and seems to know nothing about the game.
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On May 05 2011 05:46 Batch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 05:43 Holgerius wrote:On May 05 2011 05:42 Batch wrote:On May 05 2011 05:16 Holgerius wrote:Ya, swedish simply isn't suited for SC commentary. Doesn't really matter how good the commentator is, it's annoying anyway. =/ I think it's more about the commentators. Right now there is too much stuttering and weird language usage. It will probably get better when the casting duo get some more experience. I have literally never heard swedish commentary that I could enjoy. Neither have I, but I still believe it can be done. ^_^
And I choose to live in the real world. Have fun with your imagination!
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I like having commentators doing it in Swedish. The main problem with Swedish is that you can't translate things to make them sound even remotely cool. Translating the unit names for example would result in shiver-worthy results. Another problem with Swedish streams in the past has been the sub-par casting. Look at SVT coverage of Dreamhack for example or the people on the Aftonbladet stream of the Dreamhack invitational - they simply don't have the knowledge or energy of international casters.
In this case that's simply not a problem. The guys from Rakaka are doing a really good job on both production value and casting. Hoping we'll see them continue with their casting in Swedish and bring in other casters to do it in English on a separate stream. DJWheat and some co-caster perhaps.
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Need that dude from radiosporten, always forget his name but he's epic.
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On May 05 2011 06:45 Kentakky wrote:
Need that dude from radiosporten, always forget his name but he's epic.
Lasse Granqvist
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That was pretty poor gg timing IMO.
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yo guys you are counting it all wrong...
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Honestly fellas, is it that hard to update a scoreboard after each game?
What are group B standings now after todays matches (pre MorroW-NaNi game)?
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METTALÅPÅLIS! Cant wait
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On May 05 2011 07:42 arQ wrote:Honestly fellas, is it that hard to update a scoreboard after each game? What are group B standings now after todays matches (pre MorroW-NaNi game)?
Agreed, I'm at work so I just want to know some damn results/standings but this has to be the slowest I've seen brackets updated for an interesting tournament. =(
@Eob: right that's the guy ^^
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Wow, accidentally tuning in and Morrow vs. Naniwa playing, two of my favorite players.
But although I want Morrow to win I don't see him beating a protoss of Nani's caliber right now.
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Naniwa vs morrow right now, Naniwa winning the first game by a well executed 4gate due to morrow getting late lingspeed
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I didn't think these two were scheduled to play? Tie breaker?
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On May 05 2011 07:42 arQ wrote:Honestly fellas, is it that hard to update a scoreboard after each game? What are group B standings now after todays matches (pre MorroW-NaNi game)?
Dont know exactly, but they said that the winner will advance, I think if Naniwa does it will be G2 1.Naniwa 2.Bischu and if Morrow does: 1.Bischu 2. MorroW
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On May 05 2011 08:09 ActivemaN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 07:42 arQ wrote:Honestly fellas, is it that hard to update a scoreboard after each game? What are group B standings now after todays matches (pre MorroW-NaNi game)? Dont know exactly, but they said that the winner will advance, I think if Naniwa does it will be G2 1.Naniwa 2.Bischu and if Morrow does: 1.Bischu 2. MorroW
. Shame that Nani Vs Morrow should have been the finals for the whole thing. They are the only two that would do well over there.
Maybe thorzain but he really messed his group up ><.
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MorroW is currently taking the entire map
MorroW GGed to Protoss Death ball push, all morrow had was a bunch of muta and spines which did nothing really
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What stage of the tourney is it now? So little coverage for this
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On May 05 2011 08:17 Maskedsatyr wrote:What stage of the tourney is it now? So little coverage for this
I think group stages just finished? And I know you would expect something with such an amazing prize to have more people interested oO
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Naniwa's really annoying harass decided the game.
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Its now in the semi finals
Nani vs Lalush
Bischu vs Sase
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On May 05 2011 08:11 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:09 ActivemaN wrote:On May 05 2011 07:42 arQ wrote:Honestly fellas, is it that hard to update a scoreboard after each game? What are group B standings now after todays matches (pre MorroW-NaNi game)? Dont know exactly, but they said that the winner will advance, I think if Naniwa does it will be G2 1.Naniwa 2.Bischu and if Morrow does: 1.Bischu 2. MorroW . Shame that Nani Vs Morrow should have been the finals for the whole thing. They are the only two that would do well over there. Maybe thorzain but he really messed his group up ><.
I agree they are probably the ones with the largest potential. However, Sase is pretty new to SC2 (since like Jan-Feb I think) and he is already doing pretty well. MorroW must have played so many more games in total. So maybe Sase will have a steeper improvement curve. Dunno. I doubt Sase can bring it to Naniwa though so I see him as a clear favorit if they manage to get to the finals.
Well Naniwa deserved the other semi spot anyways. (went undefeated)
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semi finals next week
naniwa vs lalush
sase vs bischu
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watching morrow just makes me sad, he has no concept of how to adapt its like he comes into the game with 1 build order and if it doesn't work out he auto loses.
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On May 05 2011 08:20 sidesprang wrote:
Its now in the semi finals
Nani vs Lalush
Bischu vs Sase
Great thanks are the rest of the games today or over the next few days?
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with so many good Swedish players, hopefully one day Koreans will want to travel to Sweden for SC2
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On May 05 2011 08:21 Maskedsatyr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:20 sidesprang wrote:
Its now in the semi finals
Nani vs Lalush
Bischu vs Sase Great thanks are the rest of the games today or over the next few days?
Next wednesday is both semis and the grand final.
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On May 05 2011 08:22 amazingoopah wrote:
with so many good Swedish players, hopefully one day Koreans will want to travel to Sweden for SC2
It happened for Dreamhack, so maybe more good tournaments will come along
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WoW Nani is a total baller right now! Hope he gets through...
And i hate swedish casting it should be done in english, and tbh the casters are good at e-sport but they dont know that much about SC2 (except Lalush).
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BISCHU BISCHU BISCHU BISCHU!!!
I love you!
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On May 05 2011 08:25 ActivemaN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:22 amazingoopah wrote:
with so many good Swedish players, hopefully one day Koreans will want to travel to Sweden for SC2 It happened for Dreamhack, so maybe more good tournaments will come along
that's true about Dreamhack... guess what I wanted to say was that one day Koreans will want to play each other for a chance to play in Sweden... one can always hope...
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Semis start in 20 followed by finals. Should be good.
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On May 09 2011 01:00 ScootyPuffJr. wrote:
Damn who beat Thorzain?
http://rakaka.se/?do=logitech&action=groups
ThorZaIN vs Mover 0-2
CytoplasM vs ThorZaIN 1-2
LaLush vs ThorZaIN 2-1
SaSe vs. ThorZaIN 2-0
And modulen forfeited all games.
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modulen kinda quit sc2 but he is a beastly protoss! used to watch his stream. so hyped for todays games
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This is gonna be great! Letäs hope the stream doesn't act up and that Hellspawn's computer doesn't freeze like 50 times during the cast...
EDIT: Why is Naniwa in New York?!
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On May 12 2011 02:06 ellirc wrote:
This is gonna be great! Letäs hope the stream doesn't act up and that Hellspawn's computer doesn't freeze like 50 times during the cast...
EDIT: Why is Naniwa in New York?!
+ Show Spoiler +For the TSL final against Thorzain. The finals are played live
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I thought this was being streamed in english as well?
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Hellspawn's lips are veery red :X
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On May 12 2011 02:10 Hondelul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 02:06 ellirc wrote:
This is gonna be great! Letäs hope the stream doesn't act up and that Hellspawn's computer doesn't freeze like 50 times during the cast...
EDIT: Why is Naniwa in New York?! + Show Spoiler +For the TSL final against Thorzain. The finals are played live
+ Show Spoiler +Oh. FACEPALM! Didn't think of that.... Can't wait for that.
What do you guys think of tonight? 1.3.3 and 3 tosses....
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Does anyone know when the actual games will start.
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On May 12 2011 02:16 MasterReY wrote:
Does anyone know when the actual games will start.
Right now.
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is it just me or the stream lags hard??
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On May 12 2011 02:20 justiceknight wrote:
is it just me or the stream lags hard??
240p is fine for me(T_T)
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On May 12 2011 02:20 justiceknight wrote:
is it just me or the stream lags hard??
No lag here and the quality is very good.
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On May 12 2011 02:20 justiceknight wrote:
is it just me or the stream lags hard??
It's regular jtv lag. Just choose 720p and it's fine
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What was Bischu trying to do there? :/
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I thought GLHF.tv was casting this? With Gunrun and Eleine?
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Games were over too fast ^_^
Naniwa and Lalush weren't expected to play until 20:00
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On May 12 2011 02:31 PraetorianX wrote:
I thought GLHF.tv was casting this? With Gunrun and Eleine?
It has been said countless times, they ran into sponsor troubles with the english live stream.
Btw, Bischu needs to get real. Dunno what he was doing.
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Are they casting from replays or playing live?
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wat time is the next game?? in KST please.
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And here´s the complete scedule for today
Broadcast Schedule Wed 11/5 CET
19:00 – Start of broadcast with slop3, Hellspawn och OminouS
19:15 – Semi final #1, SaSe vs. Bischu - BO3
20:00 – Semi final #2, NaNiWa vs LaLuSh - BO3
20:45 – Third decider - BO3
21:30 – Grand Final - BO5
from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221824
Semifinal #2 at 03:00 KST
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On May 12 2011 02:34 ellirc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 02:31 PraetorianX wrote:
I thought GLHF.tv was casting this? With Gunrun and Eleine? It has been said countless times, they ran into sponsor troubles with the english live stream. Btw, Bischu needs to get real. Dunno what he was doing.
Well that's a shame.
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On May 12 2011 02:40 Hondelul wrote:And here´s the complete scedule for today Broadcast Schedule Wed 11/5 CET 19:00 – Start of broadcast with slop3, Hellspawn och OminouS 19:15 – Semi final #1, SaSe vs. Bischu - BO3 20:00 – Semi final #2, NaNiWa vs LaLuSh - BO3 20:45 – Third decider - BO3 21:30 – Grand Final - BO5 from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221824Semifinal #2 at 03:00 KST
17:00 GMT (+00:00) – Start of broadcast with slop3, Hellspawn och OminouS
17:15 GMT (+00:00) – Semi final #1, SaSe vs. Bischu - BO3
18:00 GMT (+00:00) – Semi final #2, NaNiWa vs LaLuSh - BO3
18:45 GMT (+00:00) – Third decider - BO3
19:30 GMT (+00:00) – Grand Final - BO5
[time] converts a time to the viewers timezone
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On May 12 2011 02:50 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 02:40 Hondelul wrote:And here´s the complete scedule for today Broadcast Schedule Wed 11/5 CET 19:00 – Start of broadcast with slop3, Hellspawn och OminouS 19:15 – Semi final #1, SaSe vs. Bischu - BO3 20:00 – Semi final #2, NaNiWa vs LaLuSh - BO3 20:45 – Third decider - BO3 21:30 – Grand Final - BO5 from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221824Semifinal #2 at 03:00 KST 17:00 GMT (+00:00) – Start of broadcast with slop3, Hellspawn och OminouS 17:15 GMT (+00:00) – Semi final #1, SaSe vs. Bischu - BO3 18:00 GMT (+00:00) – Semi final #2, NaNiWa vs LaLuSh - BO3 18:45 GMT (+00:00) – Third decider - BO3 19:30 GMT (+00:00) – Grand Final - BO5 [time] converts a time to the viewers timezone
Nice one. I thank you for that.
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Thank you thank you thank you whoever made the change so you can change the resolution on jtv.
Naniwa patching his EU client from the US atm if anyone is wondering. (according to casters.) Good for Naniwa that there aren't any terrans left or he might have had to play to hid his build orders for the TSL.
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naniwa is playing online from new york, thought they were gna cast from replays :p
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On May 12 2011 03:02 Kira__ wrote:
naniwa is playing online from new york, thought they were gna cast from replays :p
In Sweden, we never cast from replays. We would rather cut off our genitalia.
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On May 12 2011 03:03 PraetorianX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:02 Kira__ wrote:
naniwa is playing online from new york, thought they were gna cast from replays :p In Sweden, we never cast from replays. We would rather cut off our genitalia.
Hey speak for yourself.
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On May 12 2011 03:03 PraetorianX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:02 Kira__ wrote:
naniwa is playing online from new york, thought they were gna cast from replays :p In Sweden, we never cast from replays. We would rather cut off our genitalia.
<3 Sweden
gogo Lalush!
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Eeee, I hope the lag doesn't put Naniwa on tilt. I would love to see him in Korea.
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On May 12 2011 03:12 Benjef wrote:
Eeee, I hope the lag doesn't put Naniwa on tilt. I would love to see him in Korea.
Shouldn't be too much lag unless it's something caused by the patch.
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On May 12 2011 03:12 Benjef wrote:
Eeee, I hope the lag doesn't put Naniwa on tilt. I would love to see him in Korea.
I hope Nani wins too, would love to see more foreigners in the GSL.
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On May 12 2011 03:13 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:12 Benjef wrote:
Eeee, I hope the lag doesn't put Naniwa on tilt. I would love to see him in Korea. Shouldn't be too much lag unless it's something caused by the patch.
Agreed. NA to EU(both ways) isn't really a problem at all.
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Hoping for LaLush, because i hope SaSe wins it all
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So whats happening so far? ?
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Naniwa vs Lalush, if we don't see some whine here then we can be sure these are imposters!
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On May 12 2011 03:19 Dac wrote:So whats happening so far? ?
Sase destroying Bischu. Didn't watch myself but that's basically what the commentators said.
Naniwa against Lalush starting now after some delay with Naniwa patching his EU client or something.
And now the stream crashed.
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Did the stream die?
Nvm, it's back
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On May 12 2011 03:23 Chenz wrote:
Did the stream die?
For me it did.
back indeed
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Man, Naniwa has so much patience
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man that map did piss me off as a zerg player
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so... what exactly was the zerg supposed to do?
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Pretty classic Naniwa right here, fake nexus into 4 gate.
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4gate is such bs ... seriously, Lalush did everything perfect to defend it and still had no chance.
I'm sad
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Naniwa does a nexus cancel into 4 gate while continuously blocking the main ramp of Lalush on Xelnaga Caverns. I think he put down like 15 consecutive forcefields....
Frustrating to watch as a Zerg...
Edit: Only thing Lalush did not do was to put roaches at the main cliffs edge... that could have helped maybe, because you push the army away from the cliff then...
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Ye it's really laggy but i wanna see who will win :D
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Ragequit by lalush , understandable
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I thought naniwa was a goner when i saw those spines + roaches,he had so much patience and did the infinite FF on ramp till his supply reach 80+ lol
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That 4 gate, just looked like he had no chance of winning really. :S
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On May 12 2011 03:30 Nerchio wrote:
Ye it's really laggy but i wanna see who will win :D
Have you tried lowering the resolution. Works on the two lowest settings for me.
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On May 12 2011 03:29 cyclone25 wrote:4gate is such bs ... seriously, Lalush did everything perfect to defend it and still had no chance. I'm sad
He did not do everything correct to defend a 4 gate. He got tricked by the fake nexus and build to many drones.
So if your going to whine you should whine about the lack of scouting ability not the lack of ability to defend 4 gate.
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Lalush got up defences in time for Naniwa's 4-gate but Naniwa FFed the ramp until his reinforcements were enough to overpower the units in the natural.
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Naniwa forcing a win with 4gate thanks to great patience. kept the Ramp FFd while warping in units to gain a unit advantage. Decisive win for naniwa
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No gg from Lalush ... I feel for him, such a big match, he perfectly predicts the nexus cancel and puts down 2 crawlers + massing a ton of lings/roaches but can't fight the forcefields ...
I'm afraid the patch did nothing to address the 4gates. SaSe also won 2-0 vs Bischu using 4gates T.T (although I wanted SaSe to win).
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On May 12 2011 03:29 dafnay wrote:
is this bo3?
Yeah
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On May 12 2011 03:32 sidesprang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:29 cyclone25 wrote:4gate is such bs ... seriously, Lalush did everything perfect to defend it and still had no chance. I'm sad He did not do everything correct to defend a 4 gate. He got tricked by the fake nexus and build to many drones. So if your going to whine you should whine about the lack of scouting ability not the lack of ability to defend 4 gate.
I don't think so, he had spines up, roaches out, speedlings, the problem was 1 FF blocks the entire ramp, so you can just block it off forever. IMO he read the fake nexus.
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On May 12 2011 03:33 cyclone25 wrote:
No gg from Lalush ... I feel for him, such a big match, he perfectly predicts the nexus cancel and puts down 2 crawlers + massing a ton of lings/roaches but can't fight the forcefields ...
I'm afraid the patch did nothing to address the 4gates. SaSe also won 2-0 vs Bischu using 4gates T.T (although I wanted SaSe to win).
Maybe give it more than 5 hours for people to figure out new strategies with the new patch...
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On May 12 2011 03:33 mpf189 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:32 sidesprang wrote:On May 12 2011 03:29 cyclone25 wrote:4gate is such bs ... seriously, Lalush did everything perfect to defend it and still had no chance. I'm sad He did not do everything correct to defend a 4 gate. He got tricked by the fake nexus and build to many drones. So if your going to whine you should whine about the lack of scouting ability not the lack of ability to defend 4 gate. I don't think so, he had spines up, roaches out, speedlings, the problem was 1 FF blocks the entire ramp, so you can just block it off forever. IMO he read the fake nexus.
As I said before, if you put three roaches that cannot exit your main anyway near the edge of your cliff, you can move the army away there maybe, otherwise I don't know either though...
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On May 12 2011 03:33 mpf189 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:32 sidesprang wrote:On May 12 2011 03:29 cyclone25 wrote:4gate is such bs ... seriously, Lalush did everything perfect to defend it and still had no chance. I'm sad He did not do everything correct to defend a 4 gate. He got tricked by the fake nexus and build to many drones. So if your going to whine you should whine about the lack of scouting ability not the lack of ability to defend 4 gate. I don't think so, he had spines up, roaches out, speedlings, the problem was 1 FF blocks the entire ramp, so you can just block it off forever. IMO he read the fake nexus.
Yeah, he saw no forge or gate wall in from of the nexus and predicted that he will do a 4gate.
The best zergs don't need to see the nexus canceled to understand that a 4gate push is coming.
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Feel like Lalush could have done some good damage there if he attacked, possibly a missed opportunity.
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Naniwas ahead at the moment, since Lalush JUST started his lair and Naniwa actually had more workers for a while.
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On May 12 2011 03:41 mpf189 wrote:
Feel like Lalush could have done some good damage there if he attacked, possibly a missed opportunity.
He had a good wall and a ton of forcefields saved. I lost many times on ladder thinking I can break that
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On May 12 2011 03:41 .Enigma. wrote:
Naniwas ahead at the moment, since Lalush JUST started his lair and Naniwa actually had more workers for a while.
Lalush is on 3 bases and 30 supply ahead. I don't think Naniwa is that much ahead.
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Wow..those blink and forcefields...insane!
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Just like i thought, that army didn't cut it. Mass roaches suck vs Protoss =(
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YES! there was the whine :D
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Lalush:
"About 28 patches away from being balanced"
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Haha, ohhh Lalush!
"28 more patches away from being balanced".
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Lalush wrote:
28 patches from being balanced
lol
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'only 28 patches away from being balanced'
That was an ugly game =/
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lalush: "28 patches away from a balanced game"
:D
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"about 28 patches away from balanced" lol
grats nani! I really want to see him in code s.
edit: nani being on the receiving end of bm...how things change!
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On May 12 2011 03:45 hugman wrote:
Lalush:
"About 28 patches away from being balanced"
:D i love him
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120+ toss supply > 180 zerg supply
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lalush played fucking horribly can't really whine about balance
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Lalush whining as usual, building 15 roaches early game and just sitting around with em was just so well done.
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What did Lalush say?
I need a 7th translation!
I don't really trust the first 6.
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On May 12 2011 03:46 Fleuria wrote:
lalush played fucking horribly can't really whine about balance
He whines even if he wins.
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On May 12 2011 03:46 BoeG wrote:
Lalush whining as usual, building 15 roaches early game and just sitting around with em was just so well done.
Yea..he had to be the aggressor in that situation and at least try to make Nani waste FFs. I feel like there was one point where he could have won if he was more aggressive.
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Nani just clearly outplayed Lalush though, balance shouldn't even be mentioned in that series. ^^
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On May 12 2011 03:46 justiceknight wrote:
120+ toss supply > 180 zerg supply
It was like 40 supply difference max, and nani had +2, wheras lalush had 0/0
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On May 12 2011 03:46 PraetorianX wrote:
What did Lalush say?
I need a 7th translation!
I don't really trust the first 6.
He said "I'm 28, and I've never seen game more balanced than this"
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I'd say it's 50/50 that Lalush returns to the third place match.
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Lalush is like IdrA without korean mechanics.. just even more comical.
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Nani force field play to force the roaches to burrow move was pretty sexy , I hope we can see him in code A next season!
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On May 12 2011 03:47 .Enigma. wrote:
Nani just clearly outplayed Lalush though, balance shouldn't even be mentioned in that series. ^^
Well.. yeah he played better in game 2, game 1 i don't agree but it doesn't matter anyway
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Millenium seems so bm lol :D
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Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.)
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Even if I agree that Nani played that well, the fact you can indefinitely forcefield so taht burrowed roaches can't unburrow EVER while killing them cause you have an obs is bs imo. 1 line of forcefield gives zerg an opportunity to use burrow effectively but more and it gets retarded :>
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On May 12 2011 03:48 Arc1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:46 PraetorianX wrote:
What did Lalush say?
I need a 7th translation!
I don't really trust the first 6. He said "I'm 28, and I've never seen game more balanced than this"
"This game has 28 problems, but balance ain't one."
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On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.)
This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo.
Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play.
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On May 12 2011 03:47 mpf189 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:46 BoeG wrote:
Lalush whining as usual, building 15 roaches early game and just sitting around with em was just so well done. Yea..he had to be the aggressor in that situation and at least try to make Nani waste FFs. I feel like there was one point where he could have won if he was more aggressive.
As I said earlier you can't engage there. At best he could have killed the zealots but there's no way to do more damage vs so many forcefields. All those zerglings would have done very little damage.
Lalush was hoping that Naniwa would do a small timing push that he can crush and then counterattack.
Even if he had a bad start, he was 45 supply ahead when the final fight started but forcefield/stalkers are almost impossible to kill with roaches only :/
Hydras/Infestors wouldn't have been out in time for that push, so mass roaches was his best chance anyway.
I'm still sad about the first game though where Lalush reacted very well to that all in and still lost
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He had the robo sniped, how hard would it have been to click on morph overseer and try and snipe the observer with queens? He had lair for roach upgrades anyway. Seriously. Lalush has nothing to whine about.
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anyone know how much longer until next game and whos playing?
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On May 12 2011 03:51 .Enigma. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.) This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo. Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play.
Watch the game before commenting please. He engaged OUTSIDE the ramp first time, but Naniwa surrounded his army with forcefields.
You can't engage that army properly no matter the position. Naniwa had over 30 forcefields in those sentries.
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Do want replays of Naniwa vs Lalush, where can i get? :O
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On May 12 2011 03:54 kardinal wrote:
He had the robo sniped, how hard would it have been to click on morph overseer and try and snipe the observer with queens? He had lair for roach upgrades anyway. Seriously. Lalush has nothing to whine about.
Oh this is a great idea!
Please go on b.net, whisper Lalush about it and post here the reply you'll get from him
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On May 12 2011 03:54 kardinal wrote:
He had the robo sniped, how hard would it have been to click on morph overseer and try and snipe the observer with queens? He had lair for roach upgrades anyway. Seriously. Lalush has nothing to whine about.
Snipe the Obs with Queens?
L O L
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On May 12 2011 03:56 W2 wrote:
anyone know how much longer until next game and whos playing?
They're waiting for lalush. In a couple of minutes he will be disqualified and bischu gets third place.
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On May 12 2011 03:54 kardinal wrote:
He had the robo sniped, how hard would it have been to click on morph overseer and try and snipe the observer with queens? He had lair for roach upgrades anyway. Seriously. Lalush has nothing to whine about. You cant be serious, lalush could have done things better but bringing a queen and a overseer to snipe an obs was not one of them lol
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On May 12 2011 04:00 ellirc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:56 W2 wrote:
anyone know how much longer until next game and whos playing? They're waiting for lalush. In a couple of minutes he will be disqualified and bischu gets third place.
I doubt he's willing to play another protoss with no prize at stake -_-
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Lalush gets WO
He probably turned off his computer in rage lol
There was some hardware at stake from the sponsors
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I cant read swedish very well but I want to know if theres a way to find the replays of these games? Especially the ones where nani is playing
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On May 12 2011 03:58 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:51 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.) This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo. Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play. Watch the game before commenting please. He engaged OUTSIDE the ramp first time, but Naniwa surrounded his army with forcefields. You can't engage that army properly no matter the position. Naniwa had over 30 forcefields in those sentries.
well if roaches can 'properly' engage any protoss army (even 200/200) they will actually crush it so hard it's not even funny.
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embarassing behaviour by lalush
Imbalance or not, you don't behave like this. Hopefully he will be banned from future rakaka events. Or swedish events in general.
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On May 12 2011 04:04 hugman wrote:
Lalush gets WO
He probably turned off his computer in rage lol
You bet :D Doubt he wanted to play another Protoss xD
Rooting for SaSe now. =)
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On May 12 2011 04:04 hi im new wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:58 cyclone25 wrote:On May 12 2011 03:51 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.) This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo. Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play. Watch the game before commenting please. He engaged OUTSIDE the ramp first time, but Naniwa surrounded his army with forcefields. You can't engage that army properly no matter the position. Naniwa had over 30 forcefields in those sentries. well if roaches can 'properly' engage any protoss army (even 200/200) they will actually crush it so hard it's not even funny.
Yes, if the protoss is afk and doesn't cast forcefield. Unfortunately for Lalush, Naniwa wasn't afk.
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Wasn't naniwa 100 % gateway units in the last game against lalush? Wouldn't it have been possible to get out a bunch of hydras for the big engagement?
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On May 12 2011 04:05 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:04 hi im new wrote:On May 12 2011 03:58 cyclone25 wrote:On May 12 2011 03:51 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.) This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo. Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play. Watch the game before commenting please. He engaged OUTSIDE the ramp first time, but Naniwa surrounded his army with forcefields. You can't engage that army properly no matter the position. Naniwa had over 30 forcefields in those sentries. well if roaches can 'properly' engage any protoss army (even 200/200) they will actually crush it so hard it's not even funny. Yes, if the protoss is afk and doesn't cast forcefield. Unfortunately for Lalush, Naniwa wasn't afk.
that's the point.
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On May 12 2011 04:02 uSnAmplified wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:54 kardinal wrote:
He had the robo sniped, how hard would it have been to click on morph overseer and try and snipe the observer with queens? He had lair for roach upgrades anyway. Seriously. Lalush has nothing to whine about. You cant be serious, lalush could have done things better but bringing a queen and a overseer to snipe an obs was not one of them lol
There was a long period when the observer was scouting around by itself. Sure it might not have been caught but that doesn't mean you shouldn't even try. Slow observers can't outrun queens and if it had gone down naniwa would have been forced to pull back for quite a while.
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On May 12 2011 03:58 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:51 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.) This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo. Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play. Watch the game before commenting please. He engaged OUTSIDE the ramp first time, but Naniwa surrounded his army with forcefields. You can't engage that army properly no matter the position. Naniwa had over 30 forcefields in those sentries.
His first engagement of the game was pretty good, that's where you want to engage. He made naniwa use like 10+ forcefields just to not die. But then nani fell back, recharged energy, and attacked a second time. lalush got scared and naniwa got to the sweet spot that should never have been given to him.
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On May 12 2011 03:59 hexxhon wrote:
Do want replays of Naniwa vs Lalush, where can i get? :O
We will post replays later, hopefully tonight.
Final starting now, Bo5.
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Oh well, SaSe vs Naniwa in final. May the best 4gater win!
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Lets just say im not supprised its another pvp final. Atleast it will be interesting to see if the patch will change anyhing in PvP.
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what happened with thorzain?
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I know we say Sweden is one of if not the best SC2 country outside Korea, but I'm still stunned at how stacked this tournament is O.O and Sjow isn't even in it >.> Where can we find the results?
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There is talk in the chat about a 36 BO3 win streak for Naniwa, can anyone confirm this?
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On May 12 2011 04:13 Kairo wrote:
There is talk in the chat about a 36 BO3 win streak for Naniwa, can anyone confirm this?
BoX even
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Day9 would not approve of this commentating, It's a ZEALOT not a ZEELOT! :D
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On May 12 2011 04:13 MajorityofOne wrote:
I know we say Sweden is one of if not the best SC2 country outside Korea, but I'm still stunned at how stacked this tournament is O.O and Sjow isn't even in it >.> Where can we find the results?
You can find the results at http://www.rakaka.se/?do=logitech if you scroll down a little.
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zealots archon for Nani. Nice.
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Archons destroying Sase :O
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wow archons are sick strong in pvp now it seems
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Nani such a gosu. Hope he wins and goes to korea. o_o
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Nani is just so much better than everyone else outside of Korea right now. Can't wait to see how he goes in the GSL.
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Those Archons are so good.
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On May 12 2011 04:19 Gondlem wrote:
Nani is just so much better than everyone else outside of Korea right now. Can't wait to see how he goes in the GSL.
Exactly my thoughts.
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archons+speed zealots nice compo in pvp
Im still impressed how nani was able to hold this 4 gate with 2 gates only , I mnea cmon how is that possible?
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ehm, that is actually the first time nani seemed not only solid but just really damn good to me oO
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On May 12 2011 04:20 dafnay wrote:
archons+speed zealots nice compo in pvp
Im still impressed how nani was able to hold this 4 gate with 2 gates only , I mnea cmon how is that possible?
SaSe was too patient there. He didn't knew that Naniwa was going DT's.
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if sase committed more in that 4 gate push, he might have broken him
but nani is just too baller
edit: is it bo5 or 3?
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3 stalker rush fails again
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Can anyone say what the current score is between Naniwa and Sase?
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On May 12 2011 04:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Can anyone say what the current score is between Naniwa and Sase?
1-1
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Loving the use of Archons. While sentries shuts down micro, Archons are bringing it back. :D
Oh..and Sase is really good. :o
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On May 12 2011 04:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Can anyone say what the current score is between Naniwa and Sase?
1:1 now, it's bo5 or?
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On May 12 2011 04:25 hugman wrote:
3 stalker rush fails again
Quite the suprise, no?
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Is this final ??? and bo3 or bo5?
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nani always putting his additional gates very late , maybe is he too confident?
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On May 12 2011 04:26 Butterz wrote:
Is this final ??? and bo3 or bo5?
It's the final and it's bo5
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Yes, it's Bo5, 1-1 now. Stream just showed it.
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Man i hope Naniwa wins .. i dont think SaSe will perform better than Naniwa in Korea
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On May 12 2011 04:25 hugman wrote:
3 stalker rush fails again
Artosis says it's the ultimate counter to 4-gate.
But watch Artosis' stream. He is wrong about a lot of things.
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On May 12 2011 04:27 Butterz wrote:Man i hope Naniwa wins .. i dont think SaSe will perform better than Naniwa in Korea
SaSe was so much better than Naniwa in W3.
He started to play SC2 very late but he has a lot of potential and he's improving very fast.
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Heh, don't understand the commentary, but it's amusing.
"Swedish swedish swedish void ray or phoenix swedish swedish!"
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On May 12 2011 04:27 Butterz wrote:Man i hope Naniwa wins .. i dont think SaSe will perform better than Naniwa in Korea
Perhaps. Naniwa totally deserves to go there (if he wants to). He'd put up an amazing show, that's for sure. But..Sase has a fuckton of potential. He was amazing in WC3 and while he's only been playing SC2 for a few months he's at a really high level. If he keeps this up he'll be one of the very best, eventually.
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On May 12 2011 04:20 Influ wrote:
ehm, that is actually the first time nani seemed not only solid but just really damn good to me oO
he's always been really damn good.
even when he didn't win everything.
you just need to look a little harder.
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No offense to Sase, but he's very good at 4 gating, a useful talent toi have.
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On May 12 2011 04:30 Nifel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:27 Butterz wrote:Man i hope Naniwa wins .. i dont think SaSe will perform better than Naniwa in Korea Perhaps. Naniwa totally deserves to go there (if he wants to). He'd put up an amazing show, that's for sure. But..Sase has a fuckton of potential. He was amazing in WC3 and while he's only been playing SC2 for a few months he's at a really high level. If he keeps this up he'll be one of the very best, eventually.
i don't know how long sase has been playing for but he has played more games than most other people anyway. check his profile. over 1k games this season already. sick guy.
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seems like sase's training paid off today! would be quite an upset if he canw in this bo5... 2:1 now for sase
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"pallar inte lira med lagg mer"
"don't feel like playing in this lag any longer"
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Naniwa doesn't want to play with lag anymore. "can't take the lag anymore, gg"
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Lets hope Naniwa can come back
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aaaahhh yes, whine from both lalush and naniwa, everything going as expected!
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Naniwa will bust out his own 4gate and win the next two games, no worries.
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On May 12 2011 04:34 Kira__ wrote:
aaaahhh yes, whine from both lalush and naniwa, everything going as expected!
he's still naniwa ;P you can't change that fast. maybe he doesn't even want to go to korea, who knows.
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So nani is out of the tournament?
On May 12 2011 04:35 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:34 Kira__ wrote:
aaaahhh yes, whine from both lalush and naniwa, everything going as expected! he's still naniwa ;P you can't change that fast. maybe he doesn't even want to go to korea, who knows.
He has stated repeatedly that he'd be willing to go and compete in korea.
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He is playing from New York , he is having lag issues.. SaSe has an advantage
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On May 12 2011 04:35 hifriend wrote:
So nani is terminated from the tournament?
Nah, Bo5 man. First to 3.
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the series is bo5, sase is up 2-1 atm
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On May 12 2011 04:30 hi im new wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:20 Influ wrote:
ehm, that is actually the first time nani seemed not only solid but just really damn good to me oO he's always been really damn good. even when he didn't win everything. you just need to look a little harder.
i don't mean solid at anything below "damn good" it's just that he does all the standard stuff really good that there is not even room to show impressive stuff because he has won the game allready most of the times.
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On May 12 2011 04:35 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:34 Kira__ wrote:
aaaahhh yes, whine from both lalush and naniwa, everything going as expected! he's still naniwa ;P you can't change that fast. maybe he doesn't even want to go to korea, who knows.
Money wise it won't be the best decision to go in Korea indeed. But he said he wants to prove himself as the best player in the world.
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Why is there lag? Aren't they both playing on EU?
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On May 12 2011 04:36 PraetorianX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:35 hifriend wrote:
So nani is terminated from the tournament? Nah, Bo5 man. First to 3.
ah alright..
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On May 12 2011 04:36 mpf189 wrote:
Why is there lag? Aren't they both playing on EU?
Naniwa is in new york
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LOL base switch incoming?
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DOUBLE PROXY on Shakuras!
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On May 12 2011 04:36 mpf189 wrote:
Why is there lag? Aren't they both playing on EU?
Hes in America for TSL I think this is the first game he has ever played from US to EU.
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On May 12 2011 04:37 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:36 mpf189 wrote:
Why is there lag? Aren't they both playing on EU? Naniwa is in new york
I see, I play on EU all the time though and the lag really isn't noticeable..unless the patch messed something up.
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On May 12 2011 04:18 bobhund wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:13 MajorityofOne wrote:
I know we say Sweden is one of if not the best SC2 country outside Korea, but I'm still stunned at how stacked this tournament is O.O and Sjow isn't even in it >.> Where can we find the results? You can find the results at http://www.rakaka.se/?do=logitech if you scroll down a little.
Thank you!
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wow we dont even know who is who , pretty horrible
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What a retarded final. Sorry , but pvp sucks big time.
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On May 12 2011 03:58 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 03:51 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 03:49 W2 wrote:
Lalush tried so hard to get a good position all game. You can see him trying his butt off microing two groups of roaches trying to get a good concave. However in the end where does he choose to engage? at the effin ramp where 2 forcefields force a burrow. Honestly he had that game won, and naniwa knows it too. Balance had nothing to do with it, a competent zerg would not engage at a place like that. (Don't even let him through to your 3rd.) This, he was 60 supply ahead which is alot even for a zerg battling a protoss producing mass gateway units. The concave he could have was pretty damn perfect, and then he let's Nani get up to his third and fight him at the ramp AFTER he killed the expo. Probably some nerves getting to him I guess, but nevertheless pretty sloppy play. Watch the game before commenting please. He engaged OUTSIDE the ramp first time, but Naniwa surrounded his army with forcefields. You can't engage that army properly no matter the position. Naniwa had over 30 forcefields in those sentries.
He could have intercepted Nanis forces before he went up the ramp towards the third, but chose not to. He instead went and attacked it when he had already killed the third with the sentries having just as much energy in an even worse position.
He should've either fully commited to the attack before Nani went up to the third or not attack at all.
Not bashing on Lalush, I just felt bad since he had quite a big lead before those engagements.
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hahaha :D:D well done SaSe
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Well, it's pretty stupid that SaSe goes to Korea instead of Naniwa
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Nani whining, "Very well played", can even smell the irony here.
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Wow, the boX streak ends at 36. I feel a little sad inside.
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So sad : (, maniwa would do much better in korea.
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Gratz to SaSe! "Very well played"- by Naniwa.
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Quote nani: "mycket bra spelat"/"very well played".
SaSe going to the GOM House!
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Wow. I am actually a bit sad that Naniwa lost, because I really wanted to see him in Korea. But maybe Sase can post some good results there.
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On May 12 2011 04:39 hugman wrote:
Well, it's pretty stupid that SaSe goes to Korea instead of Naniwa
Not really, since he won.
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First person to defeat Naniwa in a BoX in what now.. 37?
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akljdoivnkdlfjekfjeoifjeoi! Naniwa, why did you lose?? i wanted to see you in GSL so much =((
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On May 12 2011 04:39 BoeG wrote:
Nani whining, "Very good played", can even smell the irony here.
Don't make stupid assumptions based on your own impressions. You'll have to take him on his words.
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Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
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Gj SaSe, make MYM proud in Korea
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Sight, why not just send naniwa straight to korea without this tournament bs? naniwa could go straight into code S while i doubt sase will make it. losing your ticket to korea on a PvP is pretty lame
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Lets hope SaSe can evven make to Code A and win smth
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On May 12 2011 04:40 TicketoHELL wrote:
akljdoivnkdlfjekfjeoifjeoi! Naniwa, why did you lose?? i wanted to see you in GSL so much =((
I agree, but it seems he is focusing on TSL3....
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On May 12 2011 04:40 Fighter wrote:
Wow. I am actually a bit sad that Naniwa lost, because I really wanted to see him in Korea. But maybe Sase can post some good results there.
He's been to Korea already... or was it China? I remember ToD and SaSe living over there for some time (for WC3 obv.)!
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Yeah, Sase is very good, obviously, but I think a lot of people have been cheering for Naniwa since he's been on such a run lately :-( I'm kind of sad, I was curious to see how he'd do in Korea, but I hope Sase will put up some good results, too. Good luck Sase!
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Crazy game! LOL
GL Sase!
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On May 12 2011 04:40 hifriend wrote:Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
Isn't SaSe famous for being a successful Warcraft 3 player playing in China though? Must've been quite alot of LANs there.
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Naniwa could go to korea and play whenever he want though?
He'd only have to pay for the flight ticket and will get seeded into code A due to MLG/maybe TSL win.
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if naniwa rly wants to go to korea, im pretty sure dignitas can send him anyway
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Was looking forward to see naniwa in GSL
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Lets Hope Sase Can make into Code A and do smth
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On May 12 2011 04:40 red4ce wrote:
GL Sase in Korea. He's already beaten 4 time Ro8 finisher Nada so I'm sure he will do well. Expecting him to get into code S easily.
I thought NaDa beat Sase? In Stars War right?
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On May 12 2011 04:40 hifriend wrote:Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
SaSe used to live in China and play WC3 professionaly. OFC he has tons of lan experience.
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I can't belive this shit. Naniwa's epic 35 BoX win streak just ended. W-T-F
Gaaaaaaarrrhg!!!!!!!!
I just wanna punch Idra in the face. And he isn't even related to this!!!
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Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
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On May 12 2011 04:40 hifriend wrote:Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
No LAN experience? You don't know a lot about SaSe.
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On May 12 2011 04:42 PraetorianX wrote:
I can't belive this shit. Naniwa's epic 35 BoX win streak just ended. W-T-F
Gaaaaaaarrrhg!!!!!!!!
I just wanna punch Idra in the face. And he isn't even related to this!!!
blame blizzard for screwing up pvp. Just too fickle of a matchup.
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will they get an invite to Code A or do they have to play the qualifiers?
some GOM guy said, that there will be invites for winners of foreign tournaments. is this one of them?
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On May 12 2011 04:42 j3i wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:40 red4ce wrote:
GL Sase in Korea. He's already beaten 4 time Ro8 finisher Nada so I'm sure he will do well. Expecting him to get into code S easily. I thought NaDa beat Sase? In Stars War right?
Ah you are correct. My mistake.
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On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, and not an automatic seeding.
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On May 12 2011 04:40 hifriend wrote:Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
Well, dunno if you know this but Sase is a former wc3 player and he has lived in China playing wc3. He have also attended WCG.
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On May 12 2011 04:40 hifriend wrote:Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
Zero lan experience?
Check the list of achievements for both players in W3:
SaSe: http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/rankings/579
+ Show Spoiler +2nd place, Optihack 2004
2nd place, Dreamhack Summer 2004
3rd plcae, Swedish ESWC-qualifier 2004
3rd plcae, Swedish WCG-qualifier 2004
1st place, Incup #99 2004
1st place, Dreamhack Winter 2004
1st place, WC3L Season 6 2004
1st place, ACON5 pre-qualifier Sweden 2005
3rd plcae, ACON5 Nordic finals 2005
2nd place, WC3L Season 7 2005
2nd place, Dreamhack Summer 2005
1st place, Swedish ESWC-qualifier 2005
1st place, European Nations Cup 2005
1st place, Incup Summer Season #8 2005
3rd place, European WEG-qualifier 2005
2nd place, WSVG Dreamhack
2nd place, Samsung Euro Championship 2008
13th place, Race War Season III
7th place, PGL Season 3 2008
1st place, DreamHack Summer 2008
Top 8, ESWC 2008 Grand Final
2nd place, BlizzCon 2008 European qualifier
6th place, World Cyber Games 2008
1st place, ZOTAC WarCraft III Cup #60
Top 8, World GameMaster Tournament 2008
Naniwa: http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/rankings/1219
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On May 12 2011 04:42 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:42 PraetorianX wrote:
I can't belive this shit. Naniwa's epic 35 BoX win streak just ended. W-T-F
Gaaaaaaarrrhg!!!!!!!!
I just wanna punch Idra in the face. And he isn't even related to this!!! blame blizzard for screwing up pvp. Just too fickle of a matchup.
No, PvP is balanced (duh!). And Naniwa lost by bad decision-making. But he is still the better player! If they had played Bo100 Naniwa would have pwned SaSe at least 51 times. Nuff said.
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Wow, I was expeciting Naniwa to move on, but GJ to SaSe!
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On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, and not an automatic seeding.
He gets seeded into one Code A season, but will have to prove himself there if he wants to keep his place. thats how i understood it.
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On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding.
I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts.
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Naniwa felt a bit stressed in his play. Also I don't think playing a tournament on the same day as the patch hit is optimal for the performances (as well after a long trip over the atlantic). It's sad to see the stream end but at the same time I'm pretty sure we'll see Naniwa in Korea sometime in the future anyway.
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On May 12 2011 04:44 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, and not an automatic seeding. He gets seeded into one Code A season, but will have to prove himself there if he wants to keep his place. thats how i understood it.
Oh, that's a pretty damn good price if that's the case!
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Didn't know about his wc3 career.. But irregardless, I don't really see him qualifying to code A when players such as Ret, Haypro, Huk etc failed to do so. The qualifiers are presumably a lot harder now as well.
edit: they're giving a free seed into code A?
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You can't say Sase didn't earn his victory. GL to him in Code A.
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On May 12 2011 04:44 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, and not an automatic seeding. He gets seeded into one Code A season, but will have to prove himself there if he wants to keep his place. thats how i understood it.
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure the casters said he would need to qualify in Korea. Maybe I heard wrong.
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Awesome, SaSe crushed me in the group play at The Gathering, so my ego enjoys him winning this
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On May 12 2011 04:45 hifriend wrote:
Didn't know about his wc3 career.. But irregardless, I don't really see him qualifying to code A when players such as Ret, Haypro, Huk etc failed to do so. The qualifiers are presumably a lot harder now as well.
That might be the case, but atleast he gets the chance to.
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On May 12 2011 04:40 hifriend wrote:Noooo. Nani is an infinitely much better player than sase.. Not to mention sase has just about zero lan experience.
Check http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/rankings/579 for a small list of the events he actually placed well at offline.
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If they name the tournament, they will probably have checked with GOM to see if the winner of this tourney will get a spot in the GSL, so i dont think we have to discuss that topic here?
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On May 12 2011 04:42 PraetorianX wrote:
I can't belive this shit. Naniwa's epic 35 BoX win streak just ended. W-T-F
Gaaaaaaarrrhg!!!!!!!!
I just wanna punch Idra in the face. And he isn't even related to this!!!
I loled at this
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On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts.
Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro.
And he had basically won nothing.
Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe?
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On May 12 2011 04:48 PraetorianX wrote:
I can't belive this shit. Naniwa's epic 35 BoX win streak just ended. W-T-F
Gaaaaaaarrrhg!!!!!!!!
I just wanna punch Idra in the face. And he isn't even related to this!!!
LOL.
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Sase's voice don't fit his photo at all, lol.
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On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe?
No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify.
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On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts.
does this mean that the winner of TSL might get a seed aswell?
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On May 12 2011 04:50 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe? No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify.
Yeah, i know. Doesnt change my statement.
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SaSe officially saying the win was because of lag for Nani.
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On May 12 2011 04:51 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:50 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe? No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify. Yeah, i know. Doesnt change my statement.
Yes it does.
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On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe?
I honestly don't know what is GOM's current foreign invite policy for Code A
for GSL May, no foreigners were invited into Code A and all had to try to enter Code A via Code B qualifiers
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On May 12 2011 04:50 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe? No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify.
In GSL March there where 4 foreigner invites. Ret, HuK, HayprO, and Moonglade. Only HuK managed to stay in the GSL (by reaching Code S).
He got to ro8 in Code A where he was then beaten by Losira (who ended up winning Code A).
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"Vinnaren får också en flygbiljett tur & retur till Sydkorea. Bo i progaminghus under ett par veckor samt möjlighet att kvala in till GSL. De tre första i turneringen får också gamingprodukter från Logitech."
"The winner gets a return ticket to South Korea, gets to live in the GSL house for a couple of weeks and has the opportunity to qualify for GSL."
I don't think he's guaranteed a spot in code A.
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Sweden647 Posts
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O
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On May 12 2011 04:53 hifriend wrote:
"Vinnaren får också en flygbiljett tur & retur till Sydkorea. Bo i progaminghus under ett par veckor samt möjlighet att kvala in till GSL. De tre första i turneringen får också gamingprodukter från Logitech."
"The winner gets a return ticket to South Korea, gets to live in the GSL house for a couple of weeks and has the opportunity to qualify for GSL."
I don't think he's guaranteed a spot in code A.
Thanks, cleared up now.
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I think Naniwa would do great in GSL, but on the other hand SaSe is no rookie and for him to get the opportunity to go to Korea and improve his play will surely boost his SC2-career which is awesome for swedish e-sports. Naniwa will probably go to Korea sooner or later and start taking names and kicking ass. Also SaSe is from Gothenburg so he is clearly the better human being.
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On May 12 2011 04:54 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:51 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:51 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:50 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe? No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify. Yeah, i know. Doesnt change my statement. Yes it does. Would make 100% sense if this counts as one of the tournaments. http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65203
No one knows what this will count as. The casters have said several times that the winner will go there to qualify for Code A. If they know he's got a auto seed they are sure not pushing it. I'd guess GOM makes a decision after they know who is coming.
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I don't think this counts as a major tournament, it was online and only had Swedish players.
Maybe if Naniwa won he'd get a seed bacuase of MLG, but as it is... nah
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On May 12 2011 04:54 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:51 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:51 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:50 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe? No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify. Yeah, i know. Doesnt change my statement. Yes it does. Would make 100% sense if this counts as one of the tournaments. http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65203
Nice find. If Naniwa could find someone to pay for his flight and a place to stay he could get a code A seed anyways.
players who have won major tournaments will win Code A seeds (contact us!).
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On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O
Wow? That's as honest as you can get.
Is this for real?
Rematch?
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On May 12 2011 04:42 Shinobi1982 wrote:Was looking forward to see naniwa in GSL
Well, we can still see him in the GSL. If you have won "major tournaments" you can get a direct place in the Code A.
MLG is kind of a "major tournament".
I think Naniwa wants to go to Korea so let us just say this: Dignitas - buy Naniwa a ticket to Korea. Now!
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On May 12 2011 04:57 Zannadar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O Wow? That's as honest as you can get. Is this for real? Rematch?
That's what he said.
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On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O
Wow, very well mannered. Didn´t see missmicro by Nani, but perhaps I just don´t see things like this. After this statement I must say I really hope both can go to Korea...
Gl for SaSe and hoping for Nani for a solution, after his recent results I´m sure he has good chances in Code A at least.
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Sooo, SaSe will be staying with Doa and Moletrap then. That's pretty cool.
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On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O
No, he said "i dont think i would have had the same chances of beating him if he played on EU"
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On May 12 2011 04:57 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:54 zeru wrote:On May 12 2011 04:51 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:51 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:50 nihlon wrote:On May 12 2011 04:48 Redox wrote:On May 12 2011 04:45 red4ce wrote:On May 12 2011 04:43 .Enigma. wrote:On May 12 2011 04:42 Redox wrote:
Grats to Sase.
The OP says the winner gets to play in GSL for one month.
Does that mean he gets a code A spot?
I think it means he gets a month time to get a chance at getting a spot in Code A, it's not an automatic seeding. I believe John said GOM would give code A seeds to foreigners with notable tournament victories. I'm guessing this counts. Yeah well they even gave a code A spot to Haypro. And he had basically won nothing. Could someone official confirm if its a code A spot for SaSe? No foreigners got Code A spots last season, they all had to qualify. Yeah, i know. Doesnt change my statement. Yes it does. Would make 100% sense if this counts as one of the tournaments. http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65203 Nice find. If Naniwa could find someone to pay for his flight and a place to stay he could get a code A seed anyways.
To find someone to pay the flight wouldn't be that hard. Hey, I would even consider to do it.
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Hellspawn made it sound like there is room for negotiations with GOM for a code A seed.
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On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed.
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If it were Naniwa that would have gone he surely would have got an auto seed just based on his MLG win and recent success. Sase is a little more doubtful imo.
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On May 12 2011 05:01 hugman wrote:
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed.
Sase could go win dreamhack and then go to korea though, I'd guess that would qualify as a major tournament.
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On May 12 2011 04:59 .Enigma. wrote:
Sooo, SaSe will be staying with Doa and Moletrap then. That's pretty cool.
More likely Wolf and Moletrap unless I miss my guess.
GG Sase, such a mannerbear.
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Very nice interview from SaSe. Crossing fingers that they upload it to YT so I or someone else can translate.
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Poor Nani ;(
Maybe he'll win TSL3 at least
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Germany1287 Posts
I'm actually quite happy that Sase won. He will get a chance that he probably wouldn't have gotten elseway.
Nani has Dignitas' support, and such a high-profile team will surely be able to send a player to the GSL whenever they wanted to. Maybe Nani will go to Korea anyway. If not, he will now still be able to qualify for ESL Campus Party, maybe participate in the next Homestory cup, and surely be able to attend MLG Anaheim (all these events will collide with the next GSL season in one way or another). Whereas I totally cheered for you, Nani, I am quite happy that I can keep watching more of your play in EU tournaments
On another note, we got to see a glimpse of the new PvP today. 4gate is not dead, and in the right spawning positions on bigger maps we can see some great strats and BOs. I loved the DT->Archon transition from Nani on TalDarim
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So is this tournament to see who gets to be inside of the team house in Korea or does the player get put straight into code A as well?
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I think nani could have dominated in code s, sad he lose.
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On May 12 2011 04:58 Hondelul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O Wow, very well mannered. Didn´t see missmicro by Nani, but perhaps I just don´t see things like this. After this statement I must say I really hope both can go to Korea...
Latency doesn't necessarily mean noticeable mistakes like mis-micro, but it also affects many tiny things that spectators might not grasp, and more importantly, affects the mindset of the player (namely, the fear of it *potentially* affecting play).
It's why we see some Koreans who seemingly play "normally" without any large mistakes in online tournaments, but still end up losing to simple things, and more importantly, never show any amazing control or decisions. When the skill difference isn't large, ordinary play might not be able to win certain situations in certain games. Like, when we see amazing "starsense" or perfectly crisp battle management from players like Bomber or mvp that can instantly pull them ahead of another player - such play will almost never happen on games affected by high latency.
The skill difference between Naniwa and SaSe isn't large, and thus, the crisp execution and micro we usually see from Naniwa might not have been so crisp (but not noticeable enough for spectators to see), and thus, he loses. Or, he might have had a bad day. Who knows.
Either way, go SaSe!
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On May 12 2011 04:59 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O No, he said "i dont think i would have had the same chances of beating him if he played on EU"
Well he meant that he wouldnt beat him otherwise, wich I dont think he would've. Jetlagged, NA->EU lag and caught up training for TSL finals.. I mean he didnt even have time to patch his EU copy before the tournament began. But that's also the game. He lost, and that's how it is. The best player doesnt always win. I'm glad for SaSe and I hope he learns alot on Korea. Although I'm kind of sad because it would've been great for the foreign scene to see Naniwa in Korea, because if HuK kan be a code S player then Naniwa sure as hell can wreck shit up over there. Especially with proper training. Let's hope Dignitas sends him anyway, it would be a GREAT investment for them. I hope they realize that.
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On May 12 2011 05:35 Chrill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 04:59 quiet noise wrote:On May 12 2011 04:55 miwi wrote:
SaSe saying "It's not fair, naniwa playing on US with lots of lag, lag matters so much in PvP and I don't think i would have beat him if we played on EU". o.O No, he said "i dont think i would have had the same chances of beating him if he played on EU" Well he meant that he wouldnt beat him otherwise, wich I dont think he would've. Jetlagged, NA->EU lag and caught up training for TSL finals.. I mean he didnt even have time to patch his EU copy before the tournament began. But that's also the game. He lost, and that's how it is. The best player doesnt always win. I'm glad for SaSe and I hope he learns alot on Korea. Although I'm kind of sad because it would've been great for the foreign scene to see Naniwa in Korea, because if HuK kan be a code S player then Naniwa sure as hell can wreck shit up over there. Especially with proper training. Let's hope Dignitas sends him anyway, it would be a GREAT investment for them. I hope they realize that.
Some are saying that the winner of the TSL gets a free Code A seed (not sure how reliable this information is). So Naniwa will have a good chance anyways - although, I wouldn't mind if Thorzain gets it either.
Edit: also, HuK has always had issues with nerves (but most Koreans who play him on ladder think that he's a beast) - I realize that ladder doesn't mean much when one has to play on TV in front of a live audience, but don't assume that he's a lesser player just because Naniwa has been in better form recently.
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On May 12 2011 05:39 Ymiir wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 05:02 Sneakyz wrote:On May 12 2011 05:01 hugman wrote:
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed. Sase could go win dreamhack and then go to korea though, I'd guess that would qualify as a major tournament. Sure, and win the 5 next MLG ..... -.-
On May 12 2011 05:27 FinBenton wrote:
I think nani could have dominated in code s, sad he lose.
I'm really laughing hard atm, but i'll stop because i'm kind.
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Yeah, SaSe also said that he wouldnt stand a chance in Code A right now so I doubt he could take home a LAN event like DH. That's what bums me out a little, Naniwa is totally ready for Code A, and would have an excellent chance of advancing to S already, but we'll see. I guess he could get into Code A via his MLG win as well, right?
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On May 12 2011 05:42 Ymiir wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 05:39 Ymiir wrote:On May 12 2011 05:02 Sneakyz wrote:On May 12 2011 05:01 hugman wrote:
On the stream they made it sound like he has to qualify for Code-A.
Naniwa could probably go if he wanted to though, he might even get a Code-A seed. Sase could go win dreamhack and then go to korea though, I'd guess that would qualify as a major tournament. Sure, and win the 5 next MLG ..... -.- Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 05:27 FinBenton wrote:
I think nani could have dominated in code s, sad he lose. I'm really laughing hard atm, but i'll stop because i'm kind.
You are? I don't think there's any foreigner, expect maybe idra, that would do better than Nani in Code S. Not saying he would dominate but.. you know, TSL finals, MLG win, owning his NASL division and hes (as far as I know) a record 36 straight BoX wins..it's hard to say he isnt one of the better protoss in the game right now. I think he could do just fine in Code S. Don't think the rest of the world is that far behind korea.
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So you think he'll do better than Huk and Jinro just by showing off in Korea someday ?
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I believe he would beat both Jinro and HuK during internet tournaments and LAN events, he wouldnt be as adjusted to life in Korea though so maybe not right away. But he's a better player than those two, so who knows? If we pick one guy going to Korea though to play in GSL I dont see anyone more suited, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
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Nani is the best foreigner player atm, no question to anyone that knows the game, with Idra the only one I could listen to an argument for (no people, thorzain is not in the conversation lol). He would do well in Code A, but getting to code S is extremely hard and a very volatile process. I still think he would, and I'm looking forward to the day he decides to try.
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On May 12 2011 06:58 Ymiir wrote:
So you think he'll do better than Huk and Jinro just by showing off in Korea someday ?
Naniwa would very likely do better than Huk and Jinro. He is better at Starcraft 2 than Huk and Jinro, no question about it.
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On May 14 2011 02:15 Gigaudas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 06:58 Ymiir wrote:
So you think he'll do better than Huk and Jinro just by showing off in Korea someday ? Naniwa would very likely do better than Huk and Jinro. He is better at Starcraft 2 than Huk and Jinro, no question about it.
Statements like these are always funny to me. Naniwa is on a hot streak for a month. Not trying to take anything away from Naniwa, but look at the players he played to win MLG. TBH the only international caliber player he beat in that tournament was Select, who is also his teammate, and we all know how weird those matches can be. Look at his TSL run aswell - no particularly big names until Hasu (Ret arguably but Ret has been wildly inconsistent recently). You need alot more evidence before saying that he would do great in Code S.
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On May 14 2011 02:23 sickoota wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 02:15 Gigaudas wrote:On May 12 2011 06:58 Ymiir wrote:
So you think he'll do better than Huk and Jinro just by showing off in Korea someday ? Naniwa would very likely do better than Huk and Jinro. He is better at Starcraft 2 than Huk and Jinro, no question about it. Statements like these are always funny to me. Naniwa is on a hot streak for a month. Not trying to take anything away from Naniwa, but look at the players he played to win MLG. TBH the only international caliber player he beat in that tournament was Select, who is also his teammate, and we all know how weird those matches can be. Look at his TSL run aswell - no particularly big names until Hasu (Ret arguably but Ret has been wildly inconsistent recently). You need alot more evidence before saying that he would do great in Code S.
Not like he had a BoX win streak since Januaryish till only just recently where he lost to Sase in this tournament, just after he flew to America...
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Show me a single win in that streak against a code-s caliber player. I'm not saying he couldn't do well in Korea, but saying he would eclipse the achievements of Jinro and Huk easily is ungrounded.
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