• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:43
CEST 14:43
KST 21:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
$1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1590 users

Dreamhack Invitational - Page 358

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 356 357 358 359 360 614 Next
beetoo
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden92 Posts
April 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#7141
Hearing the crowd laughing, screaming and cheering along with the casters makes this the best tournament ever.
Swirlyball!
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
April 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#7142
On April 13 2011 02:50 Steamroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


what else is he supposed to do?

his job


Funny, anyone else giving this kind of answers would get banned.


Read the commandments?

THIS IS THEIR HOUSE!




The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#7143
Sure are a lot of people in this thread saying how idra should act, instead of saying how he could of won those games...

Oh well. Didn't expect him to beat MC anyway, no zerg will unless MC tries cheeses or something and fails.
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
April 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#7144
white-ra looks like he's going for some speshial taktiks
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
April 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#7145
LOL. i loved that laugh by the crowd. Need a very smart crowd to be able to appreciate that
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
April 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#7146
So are there any VODs going to be posted? If so, where?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7147
On April 13 2011 03:05 Beyonder wrote:
I actually wonder how the sponsors regard Idra's behaviour. This is not the way you respect and represent your sponsors, it's like seriously fouling in other sports >_>

I will tell you what the sponsors see: who are we talking about more than others ?
Who is the "martyr" ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7148
There was a point in idrA's first game when MC had 2 colossus, 1 sentry, and 6 stalkers (after he had just warped 3 in); idrA had about 20-22 roaches and a couple hydras. His 4th was coming up soon and MC's 3rd had just finished. (Supplies were about 167-122 I believe). At that point idrA backed off entirely and sat back teching up, not even expanding again to the gold or anything. That was the chink in MC's armor that needed to be exploited. If you place July's mentality in that position, the pressure would have never stopped and MC would have been suffocated. Instead he retreated and defended, without getting as substantially further ahead as he could have.

I am a huge fan of idrA, and I have enjoyed his play since BW; but with his mentality in regards to how he plays, he may want to consider switching races. He seems to want to defend and death push with zerg, which doesn't really align with zerg play currently.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7149
Blind Terran Sjow! Sjow hero Banshee incoming!
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Nomadic
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom312 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7150
banshee out!
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7151
Wow, that reaction time to the banshee was insane oO
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7152
Demuslim trolling White-ra :p
I have no quote!
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7153
On April 13 2011 03:08 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 03:06 LilClinkin wrote:
Why do so many people think Idra outplayed MC in that game? Was it because of the IMO poor commentary? The only chance Idra ever had at winning that game against MC was when he pushed MC's nat with roachs and overlords spewing creep. MC repelled that attack, and went on to stabilise and set himself up for a dominating position late game, yet the commentators kept talking about how MC is 'barely holding on' because he lost sentries in that battle =/

PS. I'm not crying zvp imba. MC out-played Idra the entire game, and deserved to win.


45 supply lead.




Doesn't mean a damn thing with a roach heavy army and crap tons of drones. Having more drones =/=outplaying your opponent. Nor does "having more supply" mean anything for zerg, since zerg is pretty much ALWAYS ahead by at least 20 or 30 unless both are maxed.

Zerg is fine, Toss is fine, the only problem is the players.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
buscemi
Profile Joined April 2011
116 Posts
April 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#7154
Banshee!

[image loading]
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
April 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#7155
+1 for DreamHack. Hope MLG is taking notes.
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
fuzzz
Profile Joined October 2010
267 Posts
April 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#7156
On April 13 2011 03:11 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 03:09 TooN wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:50 Steamroller wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:43 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 13 2011 02:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
don't let idra be a fucking martyr. this is ridiculous. he gave up. i've done it. he's done it before. many other people have done it. he just gave up before it was over. he didn't prove any point. don't let him be a fucking zvp martyr.


what else is he supposed to do?

his job


Funny, anyone else giving this kind of answers would get banned.


He has Liquid in his name... so....


his job is a perfectly acceptable answer

Idra is a progamer that represents EG. his objective should be to play to win and represent his team well. instead, Idra rages about ZvP and gives up by 6 pooling on Xel'Naga Caverns.

since when is 6p = giving up ffs?!



usa lol
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#7157
On April 13 2011 03:12 ritoky wrote:
There was a point in idrA's first game when MC had 2 colossus, 1 sentry, and 6 stalkers (after he had just warped 3 in); idrA had about 20-22 roaches and a couple hydras. His 4th was coming up soon and MC's 3rd had just finished. (Supplies were about 167-122 I believe). At that point idrA backed off entirely and sat back teching up, not even expanding again to the gold or anything. That was the chink in MC's armor that needed to be exploited. If you place July's mentality in that position, the pressure would have never stopped and MC would have been suffocated. Instead he retreated and defended, without getting as substantially further ahead as he could have.

I am a huge fan of idrA, and I have enjoyed his play since BW; but with his mentality in regards to how he plays, he may want to consider switching races. He seems to want to defend and death push with zerg, which doesn't really align with zerg play currently.

We need a Julydra
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Bacondemon
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden149 Posts
April 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#7158
Everything about this tournament is just amazing, holy shit
TURKISHRAMBO
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada148 Posts
April 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#7159
wow no macro
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 18:13:44
April 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#7160
On April 13 2011 03:07 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 03:04 RavenCC wrote:
InControl - your criticism of IdrA is completely unwarranted. If you think that then go say it to his face. Don't lecture your teammate in public. Its embarassing for team EG and inappropriate for you professionally.


I do/have said it to his face you idiot.

Stop passing judgements when you have no idea. You aren't a pro. You aren't on our team and you have no idea what is acceptable to say publicly or not. You think I am the first pro to criticize a teammate when they make a mistake?


I'm surprised you're allowed to criticize your teamm8s in public if you are both under contract. :/ Is Idra big into poker? He really seems quite indifferent (from a pleb-ish spectator pov) to passing up opportunities for 5 figure sums, I would assume he's sitting on some sort of nest egg.
Meh.
Prev 1 356 357 358 359 360 614 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#8
IntoTheiNu 635
WardiTV556
RotterdaM438
Rex126
SteadfastSC94
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 929
RotterdaM 438
Lowko360
Rex 126
SteadfastSC 94
CosmosSc2 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1756
Horang2 1726
Jaedong 901
actioN 582
Nal_rA 448
EffOrt 428
Mini 338
firebathero 328
BeSt 314
ggaemo 246
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 223
Light 177
ToSsGirL 141
Soulkey 132
Rush 113
ZerO 107
Mind 104
Mong 92
Sharp 71
Pusan 67
Hyun 60
Sea.KH 49
Barracks 27
JulyZerg 23
910 22
soO 22
Sexy 21
sorry 19
GoRush 13
Movie 12
Terrorterran 11
HiyA 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6307
Dendi559
XcaliburYe81
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2591
allub238
markeloff141
edward118
Other Games
singsing2051
B2W.Neo660
hiko334
crisheroes236
Happy203
DeMusliM45
QueenE42
Trikslyr20
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL870
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4667
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Qualifier
1h 17m
GSL
20h 47m
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
1d 11h
GSL
1d 20h
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
[ Show More ]
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.