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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#781
People don't understand the power of that timing push, because most Terrans are stuck in the mindset "MMM is the only thing that works vs. Protoss."

If you've ever watched Trump play his two-thor 250mm timing you'll know how strong thor timings are and how equal numbers of immortals DO NOT stop it whatsoever.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#782
On April 10 2011 03:33 Vorlik wrote:
Scratch that, mass blink stalker would be the best against this. They're good against hellions and vikings can't touch them. The added mobility and focus firing thors would make them the ideal choice.


Gotta remember that Ravens can be strong too, and well placed PDDs is practically GG for toss if they put on too much agression.
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#783
THOR is HIA, it's over you idiots :D

great inspiration for me a as a terran player to see that kind of meching, i will try it myself
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#784
After looking at this game, I'm scared. I know that Tyler didn't answer in the best way, but I'm trying to think of ways to counter this build, and I'm having troubles to think of anything ^^

Chargelots + Immortals + A lot of Void Rays?

I'm expecting come across this build quite often in the ladder now... -_-
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10307 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#785
and here comes 9000 "OMG Tyler BM?" posts ^___^
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Dyme
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany523 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#786
Terran deathball OP!

(note: this is not actually crying about imbalance, just mocking them protoss haters)
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#787
On April 10 2011 03:32 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 03:31 illu23 wrote:
However said Immortals "counter" Thors must be kicking himself.

They do, you just need a good position and not be outmacro'd.


Ye, once you get alot of thors vs alot of immortals, Strike Cannon gets pretty clumsy. Thors will walk into each other or get sniped before the animation even starts
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#788
Mass hallucination of immortals/collosus would also confuse the thor cannon
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#789
I don't really understand tyler that game. Regardless, that's not an easy thing to beat even if you react correctly.
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#790
HERE we go!! match 2, Tyler in the 6 oclock position, with ThorZaIN in the 9 oclock. Lets see how this baby can play out!
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#791
wouldn't void rays be sniped anyway by the mass viking ?
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#792
u dont respond with immos/colossi to high numbers of upgrades thors T_T

ull want (in my experience) vrays/speedlots with some stalkers mixed in too.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#793
On April 10 2011 03:33 CampinSam wrote:
what is with the viewer count? Is it really hovering around 20k?

29k on hq stream.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#794
On April 10 2011 03:32 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 03:31 illu23 wrote:
However said Immortals "counter" Thors must be kicking himself.

They do, you just need a good position and not be outmacro'd.


Is this really true? Serious question, mech vs p has always frightened me.
orangepie
Profile Joined March 2011
United States24 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#795
someone said it but mass blink stalkers do really really well against thors
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#796
On April 10 2011 03:32 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 03:31 nekuodah wrote:
On April 10 2011 03:29 mordk wrote:
On April 10 2011 03:27 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Heh, Thor Mech is unstoppable if you max.


It's stoppable, it's called chargelot/immortal, throw some VRs in the mix and its over. Tyler's just playing this game the wrong game


The zealots wouldnt make it through them blue flame hellions, strike cannon would tear out the immortals and he also had vikings out as his anti vr units, he just focused more on thors after seeing the collosus/stalker composition.



Not really. Immortals should easily outnumber Thors, and he will need a lotttttttt of blue flame helions to stop chargelots. It's not unbeatable, Tyler just didn't react accordingly


Ya I agree with this. It is easy to say "well this kills this, and that kills that" but really it isn't that simple. Tyler just had a terrible composition and didn't try to harass at all either knowing the lack of mobility of the thors... but he could have made better decisions to win it.
Gaius Baltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#797
Ro16 intro video is so sick. @_@
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#798
On April 10 2011 03:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 03:33 CampinSam wrote:
what is with the viewer count? Is it really hovering around 20k?


I'm pretty sure it's peaked at 40K in previous TSL matches.

more like 50k
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#799
On April 10 2011 03:33 Krallin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 03:32 tek_ger wrote:
On April 10 2011 03:13 tek_ger wrote:
tell me guys please.. how did they play?


its casting from replays so they played at a good time for both i guess, but what is with the korean ping?

did they play in the USA on the NA Battle net too?

or did they play on the korean B.Net?



i Really dont know boy.. maybe someone else does


They said game 1 was played on NA. Games 2 and 3 were played on EU and games 4 and 5 were played on NA (if needed).

Kinda strange decision if you ask be, but anyways.


It's in the rules. Higher seeded player gets first game on their server. Next 2 go to lower seeded player's server. Last 2 go to higher seeded player.

The exception is KR vs EU since EU players have horrible latency on KR and vice versa, so they compromise on US.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
April 09 2011 18:35 GMT
#800
If you get enough immortals to 1-shot thors you should be able to target down the thors before they finish using their strike cannons. TLO lost this way to Killer/Sangho in GSL 2.
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