EPTOn April 05 2011 09:23 Voph wrote:
Will we have to pay to watch?
Will we have to pay to watch?
It will be free!
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Alex.IGN
United States1050 Posts
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OhMyGawd
United States264 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
:D !! What about future seasons? I expect they will cost money, but even so, nice gesture. Hope it doesn't have the same problems Clash of the Titans did. | ||
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Docmedical
Libya75 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:16 Bobster wrote: I enjoyed the teaser video for its campiness, btw. :D Because it's not a BW tournament? lol Its still starcraft. I don't see the point of changing the naming convention. Its almost equivalent of not using the IUPAC naming system for benzenes because they aren't alkanes. | ||
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
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SpinmovE
Canada119 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:16 jmbthirteen wrote: You forgot number 4. 4) ROOT has a great line up of players that has been performing very well since sc2 has come out. Seriously man, they belong there. I think the casters are just fine. They are casters that have mass appeal and thats what IGN is looking for. How many casters have this mass appeal? Outside of the ones chosen I would say Husky, Day9, and JP. I'm not including tastosis because thats just unrealistic as they are busy with GSL. Day9 seems to be a rather busy guy with all the events he already does. JP has MLG. Husky has a lot of stuff too. This tournament isn't meant to cater TL. Of course they want you to tune, but they have much bigger aspirations than TL posters. They are catering this towards their audience on IGN and DJ Wheat, HD, Painuser and TB are the guys that do it very well. A quick question about the casters though. Its how you listed them. You list DJ Wheat and Total Biscuit each on their own. Then you list HD and PainUser as a tandem. Does this mean Wheat and TB will be doing solo casts while HD and PainUser will be casting together? Whenever I listen to a HD or TB cast I end up turning it off within the first 2 minutes. They just do not have game knowledge and listening to them spouting completely incorrect "facts" about the game is aggravating as anything can be. Painuser is a great caster because he is a pro player, he has insight into all the matches at a high level and you can actually pick up correct information from him. I've never heard DJW solo cast so I can't really comment on him as much, but I have never been so frustrated him as to turn a stream off. Basically I will not be tuning into an HD or TB casts because they don't know what the hell they are talking about. As an example the last HD cast I listened to he was shocked that a terran walled off against a toss. What. The. Fuck. And despite the fact that he was co casting with Painuser I couldn't stand listening to him any longer. Sure you may want casters for mass appeal, and thus chose HD and TB based on their fan bases but please for the love of life force them to have a cocaster that knows something about the game. I can't really express how frustrating it is to watch a high level TvP and be hearing thing like "The toss just put his cyber down, looks like there wont be any 2 gate pressure", or "The terran can wall off here." as HD shows an area where you would NEVER wall off for any god damn reason. If you alienate the hardcore fan by using casters that appeal more to people that never watch SC2 then the hardcore fan wont be telling non SC players to tune in. I know I will never tell an interested friend to watch this league over GSL, or NASL, or Assembly, or IEM simply because the casters will confuse them and they will never get a solid grasp of what is happening in the game. | ||
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Alex.IGN
United States1050 Posts
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Docmedical
Libya75 Posts
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underdawg
United States399 Posts
On April 05 2011 08:45 TotalBiscuit wrote: Non-players do not take the game seriously and play-by-play is what the majority of not only eSports but also real sports spectators watch for. The idea that analysis is the be-all and end-all of commentary is an attitude that exists almost exclusively on TL and nowhere else. If you want to bring in new people into the scene by exploiting a vast opportunity to market on one of the biggest gaming networks there is, you will use casters with proven mainstream appeal and the ability to pull big VoD numbers on a reliable basis. Sports would not be where it is today, the multi-billion dollar industry, without an army of millions of casual viewers. eSports will not grow without getting it's own casual army either. given that starcraft is something that people can buy and PLAY themselves more readily than they can find a league to play american football in, for example, i think the analysis is even more important. people that aren't high on the analysis are fine too if they have other redeeming qualities, which people can disagree on. i think tasteless is a good example. everyone loves the guy, as do i, but he's not exactly dropping epiphanies while i watch GSL. some people find certain casters funny, other people don't. it doesn't make their criticism not valid. personally, what i find most aggravating about *certain* casters is when they criticize the players as they do things that are totally valid. like a certain replay with a guy going mass air against protoss, and the caster the ENTIRE GAME is going "wtf this is stupid....wtf are you doing?" and saying dumb things like "if protoss got X unit, it would TOTALLY COUNTER IT!" if the "color" guys stuck to what they know, then it'd be fine. they tend to do a lot of "analysis" that is completely wrong, IMO. it's also not much to ask for casters to be familiar with the metagame, as that was basically synsytr's build. i know that, and i'm not a caster. sportscasters keep up with trends in the game like it's their job...because it IS their job. i.e. what spin move said + keep track of what is going on in the damn game. further, why are these guys spewing off random incorrect "analysis?" maybe it's because they realize that if you DON'T say those kind of things, the cast is boring. i.e. see chill's sarcastic cast of "mining minerals....mining gas." and that is why sportscasters all have a basic level of knowledge of the game that many SC2 casters don't have. because if some of these casters stuck to what they know, the cast would go like this... mining minerals mining gas rax going down oh a banshee here's a fight! ...stuff you can figure out with the sound off. that's the observer's job... | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
 On April 05 2011 09:26 Docmedical wrote: Well, I don't know how useful it'd be to follow a convention the large majority of the audience doesn't even know about in the first place.Its still starcraft. I don't see the point of changing the naming convention. Its almost equivalent of not using the IUPAC naming system for benzenes because they aren't alkanes. I think leagues and tournaments should be able to name themselves whatever they want and use any abbreviations they want. Free country etc. IGN Pro League - IPL sounds good to me. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
What? Why? Casting in pairs is always so much more fun  | ||
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Docmedical
Libya75 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:31 Bobster wrote: Free to watch? Now that's my kind of price. Well, I don't know how useful it'd be to follow a convention the large majority of the audience doesn't even know about in the first place. I think leagues and tournaments should be able to name themselves whatever they want and use any abbreviations they want. Introducing a new naming system would be no one is familiar with it. But I guess I see your point. They should be able to choose their own names. I just like having everything orderly and systematic :D | ||
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
Who will be handling the observing on the stream? | ||
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Eeeegor
Australia809 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:18 blackone wrote: People nevertheless think of pro league when they see "pro league". They would also think of the Super Bowl if you called your league Starcraft Super Bowl, even though its not a football tournament. What "people" are you talking about? I'm not familiar with the BW scene at all, neither are the majority of the people they are trying to target. Calling it a Pro League is fine. If they called it the Super Bowl then it would be a problem because their target audience is quite familiar with it. And to the guy saying he wont tune in when HD and TB cast, I think they will choose their nearly 650,000 subscriber audience (yes I realize there are a lot of people subscribed to both, but it doesn't matter to make my point) over you choosing not to watch those games. They are trying to appeal to the masses, you are not the masses, but HD and TB's subscribers are. | ||
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zyglrox
United States1168 Posts
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:31 Bobster wrote: Well, I don't know how useful it'd be to follow a convention the large majority of the audience doesn't even know about in the first place. I think leagues and tournaments should be able to name themselves whatever they want and use any abbreviations they want. They could also name their american Starcraft 1v1 league "Switzerland national Halo Teamleague", but whats the point in doing so? | ||
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MadPretty
United States101 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:26 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: It's a step forward, though the roster does not impress me nor interest me in the slightest. I hope that for next season, the tournament will include a more international selection of player. From reading the description and checking the site, it looks like this is a big focus right now to make esports big in North America by focusing on mainly NA players. I think it's good news to try and create a strong NA league, because then we can have massive, epic global contests between the leagues. Or, at least, I can dream... | ||
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