• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:16
CEST 16:16
KST 23:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Syncronization issues and can't find games Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) Remastered crash fix suggestions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch! Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6687 users

IGN Pro League Season one - Page 10

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
1679 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 84 Next
If you spoil the results of the tournament, you will be banned.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
April 05 2011 00:23 GMT
#181
On April 05 2011 09:23 Voph wrote:
Will we have to pay to watch?


It will be free!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
OhMyGawd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States264 Posts
April 05 2011 00:24 GMT
#182
I really hope Kiwi does good, him and IdrA look to be the two highest skilled players there imo!
zomg
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
April 05 2011 00:24 GMT
#183
looks awesome, I haven't listened to HD in a LONG time, wonder if he will bring a good side of commentating. Also looks extremely professional, seems like it will be a polished, standard style tournament in contrast to the group play, personality and storyline based system of NASL
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
April 05 2011 00:25 GMT
#184
On April 05 2011 09:23 Alex.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:23 Voph wrote:
Will we have to pay to watch?


It will be free!


:D !! What about future seasons? I expect they will cost money, but even so, nice gesture. Hope it doesn't have the same problems Clash of the Titans did.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Docmedical
Profile Joined November 2010
Libya75 Posts
April 05 2011 00:26 GMT
#185
On April 05 2011 09:16 Bobster wrote:
I enjoyed the teaser video for its campiness, btw. :D

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:15 Docmedical wrote:
Why aren't you guys following BW naming conventions?

Because it's not a BW tournament? lol



Its still starcraft. I don't see the point of changing the naming convention. Its almost equivalent of not using the IUPAC naming system for benzenes because they aren't alkanes.
derp
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
April 05 2011 00:26 GMT
#186
It's a step forward, though the roster does not impress me nor interest me in the slightest. I hope that for next season, the tournament will include a more international selection of player.
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
April 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#187
Is there a way that we can contact you? Like an email address or something where we can send questions/feedback/complaints/congratulations/any thing one might want to email you about?
SpinmovE
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada119 Posts
April 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#188
On April 05 2011 09:16 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:00 Doodsmack wrote:
Has anyone called attention to the fact that 1) IGN sponsors ROOT, 2) Two members of ROOT's management, including its Managing Director, are consultants to IGN on the IGN Pro League, and 3) four ROOT players were selected for season 1? Isn't it worth doing so?


You forgot number 4.

4) ROOT has a great line up of players that has been performing very well since sc2 has come out. Seriously man, they belong there.

I think the casters are just fine. They are casters that have mass appeal and thats what IGN is looking for. How many casters have this mass appeal? Outside of the ones chosen I would say Husky, Day9, and JP. I'm not including tastosis because thats just unrealistic as they are busy with GSL. Day9 seems to be a rather busy guy with all the events he already does. JP has MLG. Husky has a lot of stuff too. This tournament isn't meant to cater TL. Of course they want you to tune, but they have much bigger aspirations than TL posters. They are catering this towards their audience on IGN and DJ Wheat, HD, Painuser and TB are the guys that do it very well.

A quick question about the casters though. Its how you listed them. You list DJ Wheat and Total Biscuit each on their own. Then you list HD and PainUser as a tandem. Does this mean Wheat and TB will be doing solo casts while HD and PainUser will be casting together?


Whenever I listen to a HD or TB cast I end up turning it off within the first 2 minutes. They just do not have game knowledge and listening to them spouting completely incorrect "facts" about the game is aggravating as anything can be. Painuser is a great caster because he is a pro player, he has insight into all the matches at a high level and you can actually pick up correct information from him. I've never heard DJW solo cast so I can't really comment on him as much, but I have never been so frustrated him as to turn a stream off.

Basically I will not be tuning into an HD or TB casts because they don't know what the hell they are talking about.

As an example the last HD cast I listened to he was shocked that a terran walled off against a toss. What. The. Fuck. And despite the fact that he was co casting with Painuser I couldn't stand listening to him any longer.

Sure you may want casters for mass appeal, and thus chose HD and TB based on their fan bases but please for the love of life force them to have a cocaster that knows something about the game. I can't really express how frustrating it is to watch a high level TvP and be hearing thing like "The toss just put his cyber down, looks like there wont be any 2 gate pressure", or "The terran can wall off here." as HD shows an area where you would NEVER wall off for any god damn reason. If you alienate the hardcore fan by using casters that appeal more to people that never watch SC2 then the hardcore fan wont be telling non SC players to tune in. I know I will never tell an interested friend to watch this league over GSL, or NASL, or Assembly, or IEM simply because the casters will confuse them and they will never get a solid grasp of what is happening in the game.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
April 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#189
For those wondering how to help us, this is the best thing you can do for right now (it will impress our boss!). Like or follow the following social media pages, as we will be providing content on these sites and it's another way to keep in contact with us!

http://www.youtube.com/user/IGNProLeague
http://www.facebook.com/IGNProLeague
http://twitter.com/IGNProLeague
http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Docmedical
Profile Joined November 2010
Libya75 Posts
April 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#190
I don't see why people are complaining about Root players being present in the tournament. TSL had all of their active members in it. Besides the root players are top caliber players that deserve to be in this tourny, much like how the TL players are top caliber players and deserved to be in TSL.
derp
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:33:42
April 05 2011 00:29 GMT
#191
On April 05 2011 08:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 08:42 Endure wrote:
Pretty big disappointment that with such a big company running a tourny that they got these casters :s (except wheat ofcourse). I don't see why tourneys think that having a very good analytical will send people who are new away from the tourny, from my experience that's what got a lot of my friends into sc2. Keeping it at a low level really doesn't appeal to anyone who takes the game seriously imo.


Non-players do not take the game seriously and play-by-play is what the majority of not only eSports but also real sports spectators watch for. The idea that analysis is the be-all and end-all of commentary is an attitude that exists almost exclusively on TL and nowhere else. If you want to bring in new people into the scene by exploiting a vast opportunity to market on one of the biggest gaming networks there is, you will use casters with proven mainstream appeal and the ability to pull big VoD numbers on a reliable basis.

Sports would not be where it is today, the multi-billion dollar industry, without an army of millions of casual viewers. eSports will not grow without getting it's own casual army either.

given that starcraft is something that people can buy and PLAY themselves more readily than they can find a league to play american football in, for example, i think the analysis is even more important.

people that aren't high on the analysis are fine too if they have other redeeming qualities, which people can disagree on. i think tasteless is a good example. everyone loves the guy, as do i, but he's not exactly dropping epiphanies while i watch GSL. some people find certain casters funny, other people don't. it doesn't make their criticism not valid.

personally, what i find most aggravating about *certain* casters is when they criticize the players as they do things that are totally valid. like a certain replay with a guy going mass air against protoss, and the caster the ENTIRE GAME is going "wtf this is stupid....wtf are you doing?" and saying dumb things like "if protoss got X unit, it would TOTALLY COUNTER IT!" if the "color" guys stuck to what they know, then it'd be fine. they tend to do a lot of "analysis" that is completely wrong, IMO.

it's also not much to ask for casters to be familiar with the metagame, as that was basically synsytr's build. i know that, and i'm not a caster. sportscasters keep up with trends in the game like it's their job...because it IS their job.

i.e. what spin move said + keep track of what is going on in the damn game.

further, why are these guys spewing off random incorrect "analysis?" maybe it's because they realize that if you DON'T say those kind of things, the cast is boring. i.e. see chill's sarcastic cast of "mining minerals....mining gas." and that is why sportscasters all have a basic level of knowledge of the game that many SC2 casters don't have. because if some of these casters stuck to what they know, the cast would go like this...

mining minerals
mining gas
rax going down
oh a banshee
here's a fight!

...stuff you can figure out with the sound off. that's the observer's job...
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:33:04
April 05 2011 00:31 GMT
#192
Free to watch? Now that's my kind of price.

On April 05 2011 09:26 Docmedical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:16 Bobster wrote:
I enjoyed the teaser video for its campiness, btw. :D

On April 05 2011 09:15 Docmedical wrote:
Why aren't you guys following BW naming conventions?

Because it's not a BW tournament? lol



Its still starcraft. I don't see the point of changing the naming convention. Its almost equivalent of not using the IUPAC naming system for benzenes because they aren't alkanes.
Well, I don't know how useful it'd be to follow a convention the large majority of the audience doesn't even know about in the first place.

I think leagues and tournaments should be able to name themselves whatever they want and use any abbreviations they want. Free country etc.

IGN Pro League - IPL sounds good to me.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#193
On April 05 2011 09:18 Alex.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:16 jmbthirteen wrote:
A quick question about the casters though. Its how you listed them. You list DJ Wheat and Total Biscuit each on their own. Then you list HD and PainUser as a tandem. Does this mean Wheat and TB will be doing solo casts while HD and PainUser will be casting together?


Correct

What? Why?
Casting in pairs is always so much more fun
Docmedical
Profile Joined November 2010
Libya75 Posts
April 05 2011 00:33 GMT
#194
On April 05 2011 09:31 Bobster wrote:
Free to watch? Now that's my kind of price.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:26 Docmedical wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:16 Bobster wrote:
I enjoyed the teaser video for its campiness, btw. :D

On April 05 2011 09:15 Docmedical wrote:
Why aren't you guys following BW naming conventions?

Because it's not a BW tournament? lol



Its still starcraft. I don't see the point of changing the naming convention. Its almost equivalent of not using the IUPAC naming system for benzenes because they aren't alkanes.
Well, I don't know how useful it'd be to follow a convention the large majority of the audience doesn't even know about in the first place.

I think leagues and tournaments should be able to name themselves whatever they want and use any abbreviations they want.



Introducing a new naming system would be no one is familiar with it. But I guess I see your point. They should be able to choose their own names. I just like having everything orderly and systematic :D
derp
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
April 05 2011 00:35 GMT
#195
Interesting that there will be a replay pack... is it planned for this to be the case for all future IPLs?

Who will be handling the observing on the stream?
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:38:04
April 05 2011 00:37 GMT
#196
Glad to see a new league coming up, sad to see no Liquid members in the invitational - hopefully there will be some there for the main season!
Day9 Made Me Do It
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 05 2011 00:38 GMT
#197
On April 05 2011 09:18 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:16 Bobster wrote:
I enjoyed the teaser video for its campiness, btw. :D

On April 05 2011 09:15 Docmedical wrote:
Why aren't you guys following BW naming conventions?

Because it's not a BW tournament? lol

People nevertheless think of pro league when they see "pro league". They would also think of the Super Bowl if you called your league Starcraft Super Bowl, even though its not a football tournament.


What "people" are you talking about? I'm not familiar with the BW scene at all, neither are the majority of the people they are trying to target. Calling it a Pro League is fine. If they called it the Super Bowl then it would be a problem because their target audience is quite familiar with it.

And to the guy saying he wont tune in when HD and TB cast, I think they will choose their nearly 650,000 subscriber audience (yes I realize there are a lot of people subscribed to both, but it doesn't matter to make my point) over you choosing not to watch those games. They are trying to appeal to the masses, you are not the masses, but HD and TB's subscribers are.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
April 05 2011 00:38 GMT
#198
sounds goood!!!!! looking forward to it
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:40:43
April 05 2011 00:40 GMT
#199
On April 05 2011 09:31 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:26 Docmedical wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:16 Bobster wrote:
I enjoyed the teaser video for its campiness, btw. :D

On April 05 2011 09:15 Docmedical wrote:
Why aren't you guys following BW naming conventions?

Because it's not a BW tournament? lol



Its still starcraft. I don't see the point of changing the naming convention. Its almost equivalent of not using the IUPAC naming system for benzenes because they aren't alkanes.
Well, I don't know how useful it'd be to follow a convention the large majority of the audience doesn't even know about in the first place.

I think leagues and tournaments should be able to name themselves whatever they want and use any abbreviations they want.

They could also name their american Starcraft 1v1 league "Switzerland national Halo Teamleague", but whats the point in doing so?
MadPretty
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
April 05 2011 00:40 GMT
#200
On April 05 2011 09:26 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
It's a step forward, though the roster does not impress me nor interest me in the slightest. I hope that for next season, the tournament will include a more international selection of player.


From reading the description and checking the site, it looks like this is a big focus right now to make esports big in North America by focusing on mainly NA players. I think it's good news to try and create a strong NA league, because then we can have massive, epic global contests between the leagues.

Or, at least, I can dream...
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 84 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 23
IntoTheiNu 1093
WardiTV652
RotterdaM460
TKL 166
Rex134
SteadfastSC112
CosmosSc2 54
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 460
TKL 166
ProTech138
Rex 134
SteadfastSC 112
CosmosSc2 54
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2022
Horang2 1313
Shuttle 1008
Light 695
Soma 560
Soulkey 510
Snow 384
actioN 303
Stork 232
ZerO 190
[ Show more ]
Larva 187
Rush 176
Last 123
hero 98
Pusan 98
Zeus 88
910 66
Sexy 52
Sea.KH 50
ToSsGirL 29
Barracks 27
Trap 27
Hm[arnc] 26
sorry 24
soO 19
Sharp 19
Terrorterran 15
scan(afreeca) 13
HiyA 13
Shine 11
Noble 8
Icarus 5
Britney 0
Dota 2
qojqva1832
Dendi1085
Counter-Strike
byalli2290
markeloff163
edward81
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King49
Other Games
singsing2209
B2W.Neo972
olofmeister939
hiko786
Lowko413
DeMusliM209
Hui .164
Liquid`VortiX143
ArmadaUGS50
KnowMe9
FrodaN9
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick808
BasetradeTV42
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 8
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV269
League of Legends
• Jankos2358
• Nemesis1317
• TFBlade937
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 44m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20h 44m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.