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Stay on-topic please. Off-topic arguments derailing the thread will not be tolerated.
Next spam post about eagles = ban. We get it, you're funny
Take the eagle stuff here
stop with the bw vs wc3 bullshit please
Wes2000
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States45 Posts
April 04 2011 16:57 GMT
#18601
Is anyone else trying to watch the rebroadcast and it is just showing incontrol/select over and over?
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
April 04 2011 17:11 GMT
#18602
i dont like group stage with same guys and just 4spot from open brackets.
maybe top 8 should be better and the rest must pass open bracket with a special spot that can assure their top position.
oiceth
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia35 Posts
April 04 2011 17:47 GMT
#18603
All hail naniwa the champion.

I think whats interesting about naniwa is that he plays like a cold blooded killer. Every move he executes is like murder.

he murders players instead of strategising.

This is what i gather from his PvP plays anyway. If he does a push there is no going back, he has to kill his man or he doesnt get paid.

thats what makes him so spot on. because he has more than just a game of starcraft on the line, its his meal ticket, his way out of the dark and cold and hungry. Its what forces him to kill, and be precise.

Every game he plays is like his meal ticket, at least from what i gathered from his history. being kicked out of home and school has taught him to be cold.

its very professional the way he executes his plays and that killer edge just pushes everyone over.
very enteraining tournament.

and p.s Select is ryu from street fighter.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 04 2011 17:50 GMT
#18604
On April 05 2011 02:47 oiceth wrote:
and p.s Select is ryu from street fighter.


Good comments about nani. I definitely agree. And that comment about Select? lol not really.
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
April 04 2011 18:05 GMT
#18605
Woah, thats a lot of Protoss players in the finals!

Grats to Nani for winning!
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
April 04 2011 18:14 GMT
#18606
tlo should have won it all...
and whats this crappy "extended series" thing?
such a joke imo, the player played in the group already had his advantage by getting this win in the pool play -.-
RushBoxer!
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
April 04 2011 18:17 GMT
#18607
On April 05 2011 01:28 [Epic] wrote:
I'm so excited to go to Columbus after watching (in bits and pieces) the Dallas showing. I'm actually kind of excited to see Reach played live also. Some of those guys are sick.

ps. Is anyone else buying a team-dignitas hoodie? they're pretty sweet.


just bought mine a couple days ago.

Naniwa is a cold blooded killer. the guy had his eye on the prize from the beginning. really amazing play from him even though i'm not a huge fan. Looks like he is the foreigner to beat atm.
spoons and forks
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
April 04 2011 18:20 GMT
#18608
On April 05 2011 02:47 oiceth wrote:
All hail naniwa the champion.

I think whats interesting about naniwa is that he plays like a cold blooded killer. Every move he executes is like murder.

he murders players instead of strategising.

This is what i gather from his PvP plays anyway. If he does a push there is no going back, he has to kill his man or he doesnt get paid.

thats what makes him so spot on. because he has more than just a game of starcraft on the line, its his meal ticket, his way out of the dark and cold and hungry. Its what forces him to kill, and be precise.

Every game he plays is like his meal ticket, at least from what i gathered from his history. being kicked out of home and school has taught him to be cold.

its very professional the way he executes his plays and that killer edge just pushes everyone over.
very enteraining tournament.

and p.s Select is ryu from street fighter.


You can even see it in his eyes. The guy reminds me of Jaedong. Killer instinct and once you see that look you know it's over.
Seldszar
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 18:44:53
April 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#18609
On April 04 2011 17:52 BrahCJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 17:46 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:18 Primadog wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:12 Geo.Rion wrote:
hmm, i was close enough with my pre MLG prediction

On April 01 2011 15:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
1. PvP finals
2. Cruncher not winning a single game




CrunCher (Round 4: 1-2 FXOpTiKzErO, Lower Round 6: 1-2 vVv.MurDeR)

He won quite a few games.


On April 04 2011 17:17 joheinous wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:09 vol_ wrote:
On April 04 2011 16:16 Finrod1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Dignitas.Naniwa 5.000 $
2. ROOT.Kiwikaki 3.000 $
3. Dignitas.Select 2.000 $
4. EG.Incontrol 1.400 $
5. Liquid.TLO 1.000 $
6. aTn.Socke 700 $
7. EG.Idra 500 $
8. FXO.Moonan 400 $


Idra probably wiped his ass with his 500


Why? it's his biggest prize from a tournament in a while right? and 500 dollars is not a small amount at all, we've just been spoiled with all these ridiculous prize pools lately^^


See: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/player.php?id=17


http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/index.php

How do these guys not have day jobs?




No Idea...
Is prize money taxed in Korea/NA? In Aus it isn't.
That would make a big difference.
Sponsors pay wages.
Steam commercials help many out.
Coaching would help a great deal.

Other than that... It must be pretty tough. THat being said, being a gamer isn't expensive once you have your rig set up.
Potato chip isn't expensive, and you'd hardly need to put fuel in your car.
Renting a house or paying a mortgage would be effin tough though.


I lot of people live with 20k a year after taxes and all that. They probably don't lose much on that amount. I get 41k a year after taxes and everything the government takes, I have 25ish left. I do have a mortgage and no problem living. I don't have a car that can crap on me though which is 300-500 a month just there. 20k+ they can do it expecially in Korea where you don't need a car and where most needs are provided by the team total earnings/sponsorship.

You don't have to live a rock star life to be happy.
oiceth
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia35 Posts
April 04 2011 18:52 GMT
#18610
i was backing kiwikaki this tournament, having known him as athenewins crushing the b.net ladder. his blink micro is just so amazing to watch. i got really turned on watching him blink against idra in a replay not long ago. getting to the finals of mlg was an amazing achievement for him.

how the finals fatefully lined up the 2 players, naniwa aka. meatyowllegs (the other one and only b.net ladder crusher) vs. kiwikaki (Athenewins). the history of those two accounts alone is enough to premp excitement. it seems this has been a long time coming.

those 2 really stand in a class of their own.
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
April 04 2011 19:16 GMT
#18611
I dont know if this have been posted already.. Its the final.

Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
April 04 2011 20:44 GMT
#18612
On April 04 2011 22:39 Yaotzin wrote:
Every sport uses single elim. Only MLG seems to have this double elim thing.

Seeding, group stages, single elim. Easy to understand and fair. Everyone does it.

'
Wrestling would like a word with you. (As would many others.)
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
April 04 2011 20:55 GMT
#18613
On April 05 2011 01:28 [Epic] wrote:
I'm so excited to go to Columbus after watching (in bits and pieces) the Dallas showing. I'm actually kind of excited to see Reach played live also. Some of those guys are sick.

ps. Is anyone else buying a team-dignitas hoodie? they're pretty sweet.


The Dignitas hoodie takes a backseat to Grubby's jersey.
Apologize.
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
April 04 2011 22:04 GMT
#18614
On April 05 2011 05:44 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 22:39 Yaotzin wrote:
Every sport uses single elim. Only MLG seems to have this double elim thing.

Seeding, group stages, single elim. Easy to understand and fair. Everyone does it.

'
Wrestling would like a word with you. (As would many others.)

I think pretty much every Olympic combat sport except boxing uses double elim. Judo, Tae Kwon Do, Wrestling etc. Surfing also uses it. Other competetive gaming uses it as well, I dont think I've ever watched a Street Fighter tourney that wasn't double elim. So yeah it's not just MLG.
Hi
Darkstar_X
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
April 04 2011 22:38 GMT
#18615
Magic uses a cut to top 8, which is even further on the spectrum from single elimination than double. No one complains there about it (except sometimes about wanting more rounds).
rewsky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States27 Posts
April 04 2011 23:03 GMT
#18616
On April 05 2011 03:43 Seldszar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 17:52 BrahCJ wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:46 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:18 Primadog wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:12 Geo.Rion wrote:
hmm, i was close enough with my pre MLG prediction

On April 01 2011 15:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
1. PvP finals
2. Cruncher not winning a single game




CrunCher (Round 4: 1-2 FXOpTiKzErO, Lower Round 6: 1-2 vVv.MurDeR)

He won quite a few games.


On April 04 2011 17:17 joheinous wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:09 vol_ wrote:
On April 04 2011 16:16 Finrod1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Dignitas.Naniwa 5.000 $
2. ROOT.Kiwikaki 3.000 $
3. Dignitas.Select 2.000 $
4. EG.Incontrol 1.400 $
5. Liquid.TLO 1.000 $
6. aTn.Socke 700 $
7. EG.Idra 500 $
8. FXO.Moonan 400 $


Idra probably wiped his ass with his 500


Why? it's his biggest prize from a tournament in a while right? and 500 dollars is not a small amount at all, we've just been spoiled with all these ridiculous prize pools lately^^


See: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/player.php?id=17


http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/index.php

How do these guys not have day jobs?




No Idea...
Is prize money taxed in Korea/NA? In Aus it isn't.
That would make a big difference.
Sponsors pay wages.
Steam commercials help many out.
Coaching would help a great deal.

Other than that... It must be pretty tough. THat being said, being a gamer isn't expensive once you have your rig set up.
Potato chip isn't expensive, and you'd hardly need to put fuel in your car.
Renting a house or paying a mortgage would be effin tough though.


I lot of people live with 20k a year after taxes and all that. They probably don't lose much on that amount. I get 41k a year after taxes and everything the government takes, I have 25ish left. I do have a mortgage and no problem living. I don't have a car that can crap on me though which is 300-500 a month just there. 20k+ they can do it expecially in Korea where you don't need a car and where most needs are provided by the team total earnings/sponsorship.

You don't have to live a rock star life to be happy.


Holy crap, where do you live dude? I make 35 k and after taxes/benefits pull in about 25 k
http://minemoremins.blogspot.com
Seldszar
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada41 Posts
April 04 2011 23:38 GMT
#18617
Hmm you make me doubt. I might be off but I lose around 35-40% of my salary in Canada. We have lots of social services though.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 23:54:07
April 04 2011 23:50 GMT
#18618
On April 05 2011 08:38 Seldszar wrote:
Hmm you make me doubt. I might be off but I lose around 35-40% of my salary in Canada. We have lots of social services though.

Yeah we have a lot "private taxes" you don't have like I pay $100 a month for insurance and I'm in school. I bet it's more when I get older. School itself is about $4000 a semester x2. I live on a lot less than both of you make but with loans. Next year I am going to school in Germany since my mom is citizen and most will be free.
MC for president
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:00:22
April 04 2011 23:58 GMT
#18619
On April 04 2011 18:02 ct2299 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 17:53 nihlon wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:46 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:18 Primadog wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:12 Geo.Rion wrote:
hmm, i was close enough with my pre MLG prediction

On April 01 2011 15:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
1. PvP finals
2. Cruncher not winning a single game




CrunCher (Round 4: 1-2 FXOpTiKzErO, Lower Round 6: 1-2 vVv.MurDeR)

He won quite a few games.


On April 04 2011 17:17 joheinous wrote:
On April 04 2011 17:09 vol_ wrote:
On April 04 2011 16:16 Finrod1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Dignitas.Naniwa 5.000 $
2. ROOT.Kiwikaki 3.000 $
3. Dignitas.Select 2.000 $
4. EG.Incontrol 1.400 $
5. Liquid.TLO 1.000 $
6. aTn.Socke 700 $
7. EG.Idra 500 $
8. FXO.Moonan 400 $


Idra probably wiped his ass with his 500


Why? it's his biggest prize from a tournament in a while right? and 500 dollars is not a small amount at all, we've just been spoiled with all these ridiculous prize pools lately^^


See: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/player.php?id=17


http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/index.php

How do these guys not have day jobs?


That list is far from accurate for a lot of players and most have additional incomes beside tournament winnings.


Some people coach, for example InControl.

On another note: 500 bucks is shit lol, considering the time these guys put preparing, and actually playing for those 3 days. Not to mention the cost put in, travel, hotel etc., AND on top of that, there aren't THAT many tournaments a year.


coaching and endorsements.

but still pretty sad how small the MLG payouts are. i just watched this video:

and in 1 morning this guy made more than everybody other than MC from sc2 tournaments.
and look how low his APM is!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 05 2011 00:12 GMT
#18620
How were spot 9-12 decided? I can't imagine they all played eachother for placement
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