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Stay on-topic please. Off-topic arguments derailing the thread will not be tolerated.
Next spam post about eagles = ban. We get it, you're funny
Take the eagle stuff here
stop with the bw vs wc3 bullshit please
pjc623
Profile Joined April 2010
United States213 Posts
April 04 2011 02:07 GMT
#18261
Is the re-stream of the event just looping the pre-show to Inc vs select for anyone else?
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 04 2011 02:07 GMT
#18262
On April 04 2011 11:03 VooseLagina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 10:56 johnkub wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:51 Meeks wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:44 johnkub wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:41 artanis2 wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:38 Duoma wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:25 Neplusultra wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:23 badDogma wrote:
Wow compare this ceremony to ANY other big event like IEM. They got lightshows, confetti, girls, a winners podium.

And MLG just got one guy there shaking his hands saying "congratulations, here you go!".


Makes you wonder how MLG spent the ~5mil$ they grossed last year.


Ever seen a CEO, COO, CFO, or VPs paycheck? Not much to wonder about.



Posts like these are really frustrating... So silly to think that MLG is a bunch of fat cats rolling in money. Also the assumption that the title CEO somehow guarantees a huge salary is so ridiculous I don't even know where to start.

MLG is very young as compared to the big European e-sports events. In addition to that, the north american RTS scene is just plain smaller than in Europe.

While it is true that MLG had some hiccups during this event(most of which were out of their direct control), it is clear that they want nothing more than to put forth a good product, and in the end of the day this event gave us some really good games.

People really just need to stop depicting MLG as this huge corporate entity cutting corners for profit at every possible place, because really that is just not true. When the qqing reaches the realm of "why wasn't there confetti?!?!" you should just stop.



They have a budget of millions and a prize pool equal to community tourneys with 1 or 2 sponsors... so yeah.


dont forget that the prize pool is actually smaller than the money the players themselves contribute by paying $70 each to play...

208 * $70 = 14560


add up 1st-8th place winnings = 14k, only 560 difference


and last time i checked 14000 was SMALLER than 14560... what is your argument


Here's an argument about money for you. Do you realize how many people MLG has to staff to run these tournaments? To rent out the convention center? To fly employees across America to the events, pay for their hotel rooms, and their food? Not to mention the equipment involved. I'd be surprised if MLG made over 50,000$ this event considering that they refunded everyone that bought an HQ pass.


Overhead? That's crazy talk! I thought mom always paid for everything!
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 04 2011 02:08 GMT
#18263
On April 04 2011 11:06 Teogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:01 Resilient wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:55 Teogamer wrote:
Why did TL have to become so strict in LR threads. These might as well be an extension of the official blizzard boards now... won't be using TL anymore for reading/posting during tournaments.


Because 10 minutes after Naniwa shatters everything and everyone at MLG, some random trolls start spamming page after page about WC3 vs BW. Who honestly wants to read that trash when the LR thread is designed for something else entirely?


Why does the live report thread's content matter when there will be nothing more to live report afterwards? Same goes for when there is downtime, when action begins again, people will just switch to the last page, not read through every page of people having some fun waiting.

Because people actually look at the thread for reactions on the games from other fans not for pointless arguments and image macro spam. LR threads for BW are the best example, miss the games, check the LR thread and you can tell what happened and if it was epic before the Vods come out.
routinetrafficstop
Profile Joined October 2010
United States180 Posts
April 04 2011 02:08 GMT
#18264
On April 04 2011 11:07 pjc623 wrote:
Is the re-stream of the event just looping the pre-show to Inc vs select for anyone else?


yes it is for me too
NA: NoobSaibot 941 Korea: 섹시한스웨덴 780
Omlas
Profile Joined November 2010
Hungary43 Posts
April 04 2011 02:08 GMT
#18265
On April 04 2011 11:07 Horse...falcon wrote:


I'm sure he cries at night for your affection


he dont need to, since hes a pro-gamer....
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 04 2011 02:09 GMT
#18266
On April 04 2011 11:03 VooseLagina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 10:56 johnkub wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:51 Meeks wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:44 johnkub wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:41 artanis2 wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:38 Duoma wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:25 Neplusultra wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:23 badDogma wrote:
Wow compare this ceremony to ANY other big event like IEM. They got lightshows, confetti, girls, a winners podium.

And MLG just got one guy there shaking his hands saying "congratulations, here you go!".


Makes you wonder how MLG spent the ~5mil$ they grossed last year.


Ever seen a CEO, COO, CFO, or VPs paycheck? Not much to wonder about.



Posts like these are really frustrating... So silly to think that MLG is a bunch of fat cats rolling in money. Also the assumption that the title CEO somehow guarantees a huge salary is so ridiculous I don't even know where to start.

MLG is very young as compared to the big European e-sports events. In addition to that, the north american RTS scene is just plain smaller than in Europe.

While it is true that MLG had some hiccups during this event(most of which were out of their direct control), it is clear that they want nothing more than to put forth a good product, and in the end of the day this event gave us some really good games.

People really just need to stop depicting MLG as this huge corporate entity cutting corners for profit at every possible place, because really that is just not true. When the qqing reaches the realm of "why wasn't there confetti?!?!" you should just stop.



They have a budget of millions and a prize pool equal to community tourneys with 1 or 2 sponsors... so yeah.


dont forget that the prize pool is actually smaller than the money the players themselves contribute by paying $70 each to play...

208 * $70 = 14560


add up 1st-8th place winnings = 14k, only 560 difference


and last time i checked 14000 was SMALLER than 14560... what is your argument


Here's an argument about money for you. Do you realize how many people MLG has to staff to run these tournaments? To rent out the convention center? To fly employees across America to the events, pay for their hotel rooms, and their food? Not to mention the equipment involved. I'd be surprised if MLG made over 50,000$ this event considering that they refunded everyone that bought an HQ pass.


I mentioned this already but according to Sundance MLG made no profit out of SC2 last year. No reason to assume they did this year.
assform
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden3 Posts
April 04 2011 02:09 GMT
#18267
On April 04 2011 11:01 Omlas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 10:53 Niklai wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:46 Perplex wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:42 Niklai wrote:
anyone got their hands on huk's interview after he lost today? the one which was rumored to be live on mlg site. already saw idra's, they're uploaded to yt.


Can you provide a link? it's not on youtube.com/mlgpro


Im asking for one ~~;

unless you wanted the one with idra

just after his loss


hes plain disgraceful. good mechanics + mental weakness, only getting more pathetic with time, while others significantly improve.


everthing he says is true so :>
Fuck protoss
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 02:10:46
April 04 2011 02:09 GMT
#18268
On April 04 2011 11:01 Omlas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 10:53 Niklai wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:46 Perplex wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:42 Niklai wrote:
anyone got their hands on huk's interview after he lost today? the one which was rumored to be live on mlg site. already saw idra's, they're uploaded to yt.


Can you provide a link? it's not on youtube.com/mlgpro


Im asking for one ~~;

unless you wanted the one with idra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYhtj-tnztc&feature=player_embedded
just after his loss


hes plain disgraceful. good mechanics + mental weakness, only getting more pathetic with time, while others significantly improve.


Exactly, the problem isn't his original attitude. It's that he's getting more arrogant and more idiotic and then producing worse and worse results. If IdrA was winning MLGs and IEMs and GSLs, his arrogance would be well justified, as it is it's annoying.

Also, his constant balance QQ just screws up the community splitting it into the 'IDRA SAID THIS!' and 'Dude, look at the facts' sides
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
pjc623
Profile Joined April 2010
United States213 Posts
April 04 2011 02:09 GMT
#18269
On April 04 2011 11:08 routinetrafficstop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:07 pjc623 wrote:
Is the re-stream of the event just looping the pre-show to Inc vs select for anyone else?


yes it is for me too


Who do we tell to fix this? lol I missed today and wanna watch it without getting spoiled.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 02:12:06
April 04 2011 02:11 GMT
#18270
On April 04 2011 11:03 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:02 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm not confusing players am I when I think that Naniwa is known for being extremely BM + a bad teammate and annoying in general? Hope i'm not confusing him with somebody else.

Either way, gratz on a hard fought win.


No, he's that guy you're thinking of. But since he joined Dignitas he's pretty much changed his attitude entirely and become an almost likeable person.


How do you even know that...? He hasn't attracted any negative attention lately because he hasn't participated in a lot of events. Doesn't mean his personality suddenly changed. He was badmannered in WC3 for years, he has been badmannered in SC2 for over a year and got kicked out of several teams and leagues. And he is still BM in laddergames.

Somehow i didn't find it surprising that he can't say 3 words on stage.

His skill is undeniable tho. With the right attitude he could've achieved a lot more by now. Think of all the money he lost because he got kicked out of esl events :/
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
April 04 2011 02:11 GMT
#18271
On April 04 2011 11:09 PlaGuE_R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:01 Omlas wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:53 Niklai wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:46 Perplex wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:42 Niklai wrote:
anyone got their hands on huk's interview after he lost today? the one which was rumored to be live on mlg site. already saw idra's, they're uploaded to yt.


Can you provide a link? it's not on youtube.com/mlgpro


Im asking for one ~~;

unless you wanted the one with idra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYhtj-tnztc&feature=player_embedded
just after his loss


hes plain disgraceful. good mechanics + mental weakness, only getting more pathetic with time, while others significantly improve.


Exactly, the problem isn't his original attitude. It's that he's getting more arrogant and more idiotic and then producing worse and worse results.

except for finishing the highest for any zerg and being one of two foreigners to make it to ro8 in the GSL. His results are actually fine.
routinetrafficstop
Profile Joined October 2010
United States180 Posts
April 04 2011 02:12 GMT
#18272
On April 04 2011 11:09 pjc623 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:08 routinetrafficstop wrote:
On April 04 2011 11:07 pjc623 wrote:
Is the re-stream of the event just looping the pre-show to Inc vs select for anyone else?


yes it is for me too


Who do we tell to fix this? lol I missed today and wanna watch it without getting spoiled.


I really couldn't tell ya, i think if they plan to have it working they will and will have plenty of people telling them its re-playing the same 4 minutes of video anyway...

so hopefully its fixed, but if its not I wouldn't be surprised, its been that kind of a weekend.
NA: NoobSaibot 941 Korea: 섹시한스웨덴 780
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
April 04 2011 02:12 GMT
#18273
Haha, TLO/Idra game 1 is almost as hilarious as the Huk series. Idra GGs with 56 supply to 58, 31 drones to 29 SCVs, 600 minerals/700 gas to 30 minerals/100 gas and TLO's army across the map at his own natural defending.
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
April 04 2011 02:12 GMT
#18274
On April 04 2011 11:08 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:06 Teogamer wrote:
On April 04 2011 11:01 Resilient wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:55 Teogamer wrote:
Why did TL have to become so strict in LR threads. These might as well be an extension of the official blizzard boards now... won't be using TL anymore for reading/posting during tournaments.


Because 10 minutes after Naniwa shatters everything and everyone at MLG, some random trolls start spamming page after page about WC3 vs BW. Who honestly wants to read that trash when the LR thread is designed for something else entirely?


Why does the live report thread's content matter when there will be nothing more to live report afterwards? Same goes for when there is downtime, when action begins again, people will just switch to the last page, not read through every page of people having some fun waiting.

Because people actually look at the thread for reactions on the games from other fans not for pointless arguments and image macro spam. LR threads for BW are the best example, miss the games, check the LR thread and you can tell what happened and if it was epic before the Vods come out.


I fail to see how images and arguments can't be valued reactions from a game too.
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
April 04 2011 02:14 GMT
#18275
On April 04 2011 11:06 Teogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:01 Resilient wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:55 Teogamer wrote:
Why did TL have to become so strict in LR threads. These might as well be an extension of the official blizzard boards now... won't be using TL anymore for reading/posting during tournaments.


Because 10 minutes after Naniwa shatters everything and everyone at MLG, some random trolls start spamming page after page about WC3 vs BW. Who honestly wants to read that trash when the LR thread is designed for something else entirely?


Why does the live report thread's content matter when there will be nothing more to live report afterwards? Same goes for when there is downtime, when action begins again, people will just switch to the last page, not read through every page of people having some fun waiting.


Im not debating your point, I like fun, but TL and their mods want us to offer quality content to its threads. It does not want to be used just because of its high volume traffic. And while you could argue this is too dumb/strict you can not refute that fact that without its mods and strict guidelines, TL would not be the quality community that it is today and therefore would not draw the masses of people that it does. So if you want a place to "have fun" on the internet with a ton of people like TL you have to respect the rules because its what makes TL.

In defense of the mods, they really do a good job of organizing the threads, if you want a place to "have fun" between games and spam about eagles, im sure you could find a thread on that.
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
April 04 2011 02:14 GMT
#18276
stream still looping, any way of contatcting the tech guys to get it sorted for us guys overseas
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
UpHeaVaL
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada57 Posts
April 04 2011 02:14 GMT
#18277
On April 04 2011 11:06 Teogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:01 Resilient wrote:
On April 04 2011 10:55 Teogamer wrote:
Why did TL have to become so strict in LR threads. These might as well be an extension of the official blizzard boards now... won't be using TL anymore for reading/posting during tournaments.


Because 10 minutes after Naniwa shatters everything and everyone at MLG, some random trolls start spamming page after page about WC3 vs BW. Who honestly wants to read that trash when the LR thread is designed for something else entirely?


Why does the live report thread's content matter when there will be nothing more to live report afterwards? Same goes for when there is downtime, when action begins again, people will just switch to the last page, not read through every page of people having some fun waiting.



This is the common sense of the issue....but youre preaching to pedantic douches, don't expect any budging.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#18278
On April 04 2011 11:11 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:03 Resilient wrote:
On April 04 2011 11:02 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm not confusing players am I when I think that Naniwa is known for being extremely BM + a bad teammate and annoying in general? Hope i'm not confusing him with somebody else.

Either way, gratz on a hard fought win.


No, he's that guy you're thinking of. But since he joined Dignitas he's pretty much changed his attitude entirely and become an almost likeable person.


How do you even know that...? He hasn't attracted any negative attention lately because he hasn't participated in a lot of events. Doesn't mean his personality suddenly changed. He was badmannered in WC3 for years, he has been badmannered in SC2 for over a year and got kicked out of several teams and leagues. And he is still BM in laddergames.

Somehow i didn't find it surprising that he can't say 3 words on stage.

His skill is undeniable tho. With the right attitude he could've achieved a lot more by now. Think of all the money he lost because he got kicked out of esl events :/



I'm just going by the comments several notable players have stated regarding Nani. The general consensus among them is that he's a different person now. If you have experience of him BM'ing someone recently, then I subtract what I said. Either way, he's keeping his head down which is something he didn't manage to do at all in 2010.
johnkub
Profile Joined November 2010
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 02:16:46
April 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#18279
On April 04 2011 11:03 VooseLagina wrote:

Here's an argument about money for you. Do you realize how many people MLG has to staff to run these tournaments? To rent out the convention center? To fly employees across America to the events, pay for their hotel rooms, and their food? Not to mention the equipment involved. I'd be surprised if MLG made over 50,000$ this event considering that they refunded everyone that bought an HQ pass.


just because they are a bloated money burning corporate entity doesnt change any of the facts

a.) they charge every spectator money
b.) they have all sorts of sponsors
c.) they charge all the players

they had 50 million in revenue in 2009, do you honestly think that these lans could not be done much better for much cheaper if they didnt have so much overhead
pjc623
Profile Joined April 2010
United States213 Posts
April 04 2011 02:17 GMT
#18280
This re-stream not working just further re-enforces how terrible MLG has been in my eyes. They're never getting a cent of my money ever again.
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