On April 03 2011 14:06 1Eris1 wrote: Why are people ripping on Naniwa? He's been pretty much the strongest macro Protoss outside of Korea for sometime now. (balance aside, he's beaten ret, morrow, idra, every top terran, every top protoss etc) 4 gating someone worse then you>playing a 50 minute game vs someone worse then you. Especially if you have to play like 20 games
the point I'm trying to make, is that it's funny that the game can give you the option "well instead of outplaying them just hit them with a 4 gate" (clearly shown pvp where you have to 4gate better than your opponent to win) when I see what people are typing in response or in his defense (i'm not hating) the message i'm getting is "oh wow really that's he has to do?" I'm sure his opponents aren't ridiculously horrible, they qualified for this tournament, they had their share of 4gates as well, but when people are very skilled, it's pretty disappointing when i see someone at 4gating with 22 consecutive wins all 4gates.
imagine if i could have 90% success rate with 2rax, or 7rr.
oh i like this gem "4 gating someone worse then you>playing a 50 minute game vs someone worse then you. "
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
ive said this before but seriously think about how much internet is being used at any given time during this event? between the streams with hundreds huuundreds of thousands of viewers and all the games playing online and the thooousaaands of people at the place using wifi and whatnot how can you really blame them for lag. seriously just think about it for 5 seconds....
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
Jesus, that last part you mentioned is so petty. Sundance made a mistake on the forums over a trivial fucking matter to begin with. The internet loves to bitch about anything, and the thing about "dispute" takes the cake for this particular day.
The funny thing is that Sundance lied about it being filtered then questioned if it was, said he checked and it wasn't filtered then it was proven it was. God, he has to feel like a total flaming idiot for blatantly lying like that.
You're mistaking ignorance on his part for lying. Do you think he'd be dumb enough to dispute it if he knew it was censored, seeing as anybody could try typing it in.
My understanding is also that it was a banned word on their forums for some time, not because of today. Because it's linked in with gamebattles and they have it blocked because of people bitching about wins or something.
Edit - Reread your post... I'm mistaken in what I said initially. Either way, he made himself look like an idiot. Here's the pic: + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
ive said this before but seriously think about how much internet is being used at any given time during this event? between the streams with hundreds huuundreds of thousands of viewers and all the games playing online and the thooousaaands of people at the place using wifi and whatnot how can you really blame them for lag. seriously just think about it for 5 seconds....
The viewer count on the stream is irrelevant. The data gets sent to off-site once and then the off-site distribution center sends it out to each viewer. (At least, that's how they ought to do it.)
Estimating how much bandwidth all those games would use is NOT HARD. It's back-of-the-envelope math that many people on this thread have done. They should have *done* that estimation, then tested their network hardware, and if the hardware couldn't hack it, either get some stuff that can or don't host the event.
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
Jesus, that last part you mentioned is so petty. Sundance made a mistake on the forums over a trivial fucking matter to begin with. The internet loves to bitch about anything, and the thing about "dispute" takes the cake for this particular day.
The funny thing is that Sundance lied about it being filtered then questioned if it was, said he checked and it wasn't filtered then it was proven it was. God, he has to feel like a total flaming idiot for blatantly lying like that.
You're mistaking ignorance on his part for lying. Do you think he'd be dumb enough to dispute it if he knew it was censored, seeing as anybody could try typing it in.
My understanding is also that it was a banned word on their forums for some time, not because of today. Because it's linked in with gamebattles and they have it blocked because of people bitching about wins or something.
I wish I would have mistaken his lies for ignorance, but either one is just as bad coming from a CEO.
I heard about a massive lulsworthy game between huk and idra is there any vod or something? I really want to see it
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That's actually so true But anyways, MLG hasn't put up the replay for that game for whatever reason. You can find game 1 and 3 here, but game 2 is the one you're looking for and that one isn't up: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/140-22322.html
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
Jesus, that last part you mentioned is so petty. Sundance made a mistake on the forums over a trivial fucking matter to begin with. The internet loves to bitch about anything, and the thing about "dispute" takes the cake for this particular day.
The funny thing is that Sundance lied about it being filtered then questioned if it was, said he checked and it wasn't filtered then it was proven it was. God, he has to feel like a total flaming idiot for blatantly lying like that.
You're mistaking ignorance on his part for lying. Do you think he'd be dumb enough to dispute it if he knew it was censored, seeing as anybody could try typing it in.
My understanding is also that it was a banned word on their forums for some time, not because of today. Because it's linked in with gamebattles and they have it blocked because of people bitching about wins or something.
Uh... He was dumb enough. I posted the pic before, but here you go.
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
ive said this before but seriously think about how much internet is being used at any given time during this event? between the streams with hundreds huuundreds of thousands of viewers and all the games playing online and the thooousaaands of people at the place using wifi and whatnot how can you really blame them for lag. seriously just think about it for 5 seconds..
Well, they knew this before. You should prepare for this kind of bandwith usage.
On April 03 2011 14:00 Engore wrote: Regardless its about following their own rules. Rewrite them then if you aren't going to follow the current set. Why have the rule if you don't follow it? If you speed on the highway your breaking a law but most people do it without caring. What about people who rob banks? They are breaking a law as well but most of the time people care about that one.
Shows that you should enforce rules equally.
I know thats comparing irl to a game but the principle is the same. Set the rules..follow the rules.. enforce the rules.
Many rules are not enforced IRL, brown paper bags on bottles etc.
However, taunting idra ingame should atleast give a foul or something, keep that shit to the lobby.
How many times do we have to cite Extended Series for this argument to not work? MLG stood by its retarded rule of extended series and would not budge an inch, yet they fail in every other category.
How is extended series relevant? Get real.
because extended series is a rule, just like no chatting. they are relevant because they are both rules. besides, even if idra won that series, the championship bracket would remain the same
On April 03 2011 14:02 hinnolinn wrote: Huk went 5-6 in group play, Socke went 4-4 in group play, and Idra went 5-4 in group play. So Idra had the best record and Huk the worst of the three.
Extended series is a design choice for the tournament, not a simple rule. I'm going to ignore this thread for now, too many fanboys who dont think things through.
wow tlo and painuser games were pretty good. MLG site says painuser wins 2-1.. but the third match ended in a strange way. I hope TLO didn't quit early and get a stupid loss for it.
On April 03 2011 14:00 Engore wrote: Regardless its about following their own rules. Rewrite them then if you aren't going to follow the current set. Why have the rule if you don't follow it? If you speed on the highway your breaking a law but most people do it without caring. What about people who rob banks? They are breaking a law as well but most of the time people care about that one.
Shows that you should enforce rules equally.
I know thats comparing irl to a game but the principle is the same. Set the rules..follow the rules.. enforce the rules.
Many rules are not enforced IRL, brown paper bags on bottles etc.
However, taunting idra ingame should atleast give a foul or something, keep that shit to the lobby.
How many times do we have to cite Extended Series for this argument to not work? MLG stood by its retarded rule of extended series and would not budge an inch, yet they fail in every other category.
How is extended series relevant? Get real.
because extended series is a rule, just like no chatting. they are relevant because they are both rules. besides, even if idra won that series, the championship bracket would remain the same
On April 03 2011 14:02 hinnolinn wrote: Huk went 5-6 in group play, Socke went 4-4 in group play, and Idra went 5-4 in group play. So Idra had the best record and Huk the worst of the three.
Extended series is a design choice for the tournament, not a simple rule. I'm going to ignore this thread for now, too many fanboys who dont think things through.
It's a rule that was enforced strictly against Tyler at a previous MLG... even though it was entirely fucked up. They also adapted it from Halo and couldn't let the Halo fanboys down and would never surrender to InControl's constant arguments that it's shit.
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
Jesus, that last part you mentioned is so petty. Sundance made a mistake on the forums over a trivial fucking matter to begin with. The internet loves to bitch about anything, and the thing about "dispute" takes the cake for this particular day.
The funny thing is that Sundance lied about it being filtered then questioned if it was, said he checked and it wasn't filtered then it was proven it was. God, he has to feel like a total flaming idiot for blatantly lying like that.
You're mistaking ignorance on his part for lying. Do you think he'd be dumb enough to dispute it if he knew it was censored, seeing as anybody could try typing it in.
My understanding is also that it was a banned word on their forums for some time, not because of today. Because it's linked in with gamebattles and they have it blocked because of people bitching about wins or something.
Uh... He was dumb enough. I posted the pic before, but here you go.
Just. fucking. hilarious.
I don't get it. I mean, I get it. But what happened with the word? Why censor it?
On April 03 2011 13:55 mcjinzo wrote: i love how people are acting like this is suppose to be like a samurai battle or something....its a video game settle down rivalry is good for the games expansion
Wait. This isn't a Samurai Battle? WTF!
oh shit
MLG did a great job today dealing with the issues that were largely out of their control
No they didn't. They didn't acknowledge anything being their fault for the first several hours. They were just blaming everyone else, but themselves for their problems. It took them close to 6 hours to just own up to their own mistakes and get their shit fixed.
Not only that, but SunDance embarrassed himself and MLG on the forum for letting trolls get to him.
ive said this before but seriously think about how much internet is being used at any given time during this event? between the streams with hundreds huuundreds of thousands of viewers and all the games playing online and the thooousaaands of people at the place using wifi and whatnot how can you really blame them for lag. seriously just think about it for 5 seconds....
The viewer count on the stream is irrelevant. The data gets sent to off-site once and then the off-site distribution center sends it out to each viewer. (At least, that's how they ought to do it.)
Estimating how much bandwidth all those games would use is NOT HARD. It's back-of-the-envelope math that many people on this thread have done. They should have *done* that estimation, then tested their network hardware, and if the hardware couldn't hack it, either get some stuff that can or don't host the event.
Supposedly MLG was stupid enough to NOT send the data off site and actually tried to stream directly from the venue. The reasoning for doing this is more direct control over what ads air and when. This is just from reading other posts and such so should be taking as completely unverified.
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Gee3m.jpg)
But anyways, MLG hasn't put up the replay for that game for whatever reason. You can find game 1 and 3 here, but game 2 is the one you're looking for and that one isn't up: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/140-22322.html
EPT
