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Phaint
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 04:45:03
April 03 2011 04:44 GMT
#10941
On April 03 2011 13:43 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:41 Phaint wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:41 Moonwrath wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:37 Louky wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:30 GypsyBeast wrote:
major dick move on HuKs part for brining that up in game for everyone to see. I think he should get disqualified for that TBH, it was totally off base :/


From the MLG rule book:

3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.

6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.


Technically HuK forfeited the game by taunting IdrA. You might argue that IdrA responded, but the game was already forfeited when he did. I wonder if this will come up tomorrow.

Technically, you can't read. Bolded the relevant part of the rule for people who keep bringing this nonsense up.


How is it "sportsmanship" and not a direct taunt?

Because taunting is sportsmanship, just not very good sportsmanship.


Taunting isn't sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is always positive.

Taunting is "poor" sportsmanship, as in lacking sportsmanship.
VenerableSpace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States463 Posts
April 03 2011 04:44 GMT
#10942
According to that rule, huk should have been disqualified in the game vs select when he made a mothership due to chat in the middle of he game.

I thikn it was briefly mentioned in the L/R thread during that MLG, its not that big of a deal. The rules are fairly outdated and theres a vast array of them which dont really make sense to apply. theres one where a player can limit the unit composition of the other player by not letting them make a unit.
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
April 03 2011 04:44 GMT
#10943
On April 03 2011 13:42 Darpa wrote:
Can anyone link me Sundances Twitter? I cant seem to find it on twitter itself even though I have his name spelt correctly, just all the people tweeting about him.


https://twitter.com/#!/MLG_Sundance
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#10944
[QUOTE]On April 03 2011 13:41 KhAlleB wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 03 2011 13:37 Louky wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 03 2011 13:30 GypsyBeast wrote:
major dick move on HuKs part for brining that up in game for everyone to see. I think he should get disqualified for that TBH, it was totally off base :/[/QUOTE]

From the MLG rule book:

3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.

6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.


Technically HuK forfeited the game by taunting IdrA. You might argue that IdrA responded, but the game was already forfeited when he did. I wonder if this will come up tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I don't know if IdrA would be the kind of guy that would even except the win based on this, it would make him look really bad especially considering the loss was purely his fault, it was a favor huk was doing at the least by telling him it was hallucination that IdrA gg'd at.

SlayerS Fighting!
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
April 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#10945
On April 03 2011 13:31 Washow wrote:
Will NASL be worse than this? It could be


Comparing NASL to MLG is like comparing apples to oranges.

NASL is a dedicated SC2 league with the vast majority of their games being played online and live streamed via replays, where as MLG is a LAN event. As for the LAN portion of the NASL, I don't think it's humanly possible for them to fuck up as royally as MLG did this weekend.

Comparing TSL to NASL would make a lot more sense, but even that comparison isn't really fair.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#10946
On April 03 2011 13:43 Primadog wrote:
MLG Dallas end of day 1 team results
Open Lower Bracket and Group play ends, Round 1 of Championship Lower Bracket ongoing.
Day 3 will feature Championship Upper Bracket Round 1 to 2, Championship Lower Bracket 2 to 10, and the Championship Match.


MLG Dallas end of day 2 team results
Groups result, Open bracket results

TeamLiquid - Liquid'
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:

Group:
(P)HuK (Round 7, moved to Group A: 2-2)
(T)TLO (Group C: 2-2)
(P)Tyler (Group D: 1-3)
(Z)Ret (Group B: 1-3)
(Z)HayprO (Round 7, moved to Group B: 0-4)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:



Root Gaming - ROOT
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:

Group:
(P)KiWiKaKi (Group A: 4-0)
(T)Drewbie (Group D: 3-1)
(Z)SLush (Group C: 3-1)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated
(Z)CatZ (Round 4: 1-2 Tri_Master, Lower Round 6: 1-2 Fnatics.(T)Fenix)
(Z)Destiny (Round 3: 1-2 (P)LG.ReSpOnSe, Lower Round 4: 0-2 (P)EG.Axslav)
(T)Fayth (Round 1: ?-2 (T)vileHashe, Lower Round 4: ?-2 Nevarium)
SunDevil (Round 1: 1-2 Bluewaffle, Lower Round 1: 0-2 FinalForm)
(P)Minigun (not present)



Evil Geniuses - EG
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:
(T)LzGaMeR (Round 5: 0-2 sixjax.(Z)ViBE, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 2)

Group:
(P)iNcontroL (Group C: 3-1)
(T)IdrA (Group A: 2-2)
(Z)Machine (Group D: 1-3)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(Z)StrifeCro (Round 4: 0-2 fnatic.(T)KawaiiRice, Lower Round 7: 1-2 LG.(Z)Zelniq)
(P)Axslav (Round 2: 1-2 (P)phantaxx, Lower Round 7: 0-2 VT.(Z)giX)



team-dignitas - dignitas
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:

Group:
(P)NaNiwa (Round 7, moved to Group D: 4-0)
(T)SeleCT (Group B: 4-0)
(T)SjoW (Group B: 3-1)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated




Lazarus Gaming - LG
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Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:

Group:
(T)PainUser (Group C: 1-3)
(P)Agh (Group D: 1-3)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(Z)Zelniq (Round 3: 1-2 (T)x6.ThisIsJimmy, Lower Round 8: ?-2 (T)x6.ThisIsJimmy)
(P)ReSpOnSe (Round 4: ?-2 tkVim, Lower Round 7: 0-2 xiLost)
(P)iNkA (Round 3: ?-2 (P)Grubby, Lower Round 5: 0-2 IDrone)
(Z)sycknesS (Round 2: 0-2 sixjax.(T)Mihai, Lower Round 3: ?-2 (Z)MasterAsia)
(P)Shew ???



sixjax Gaming - sixjax
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:
(T)dde (Round 6: 0-2 sixjax.(T)Mihai, Championship Lower Round 2)
(Z)ViBE (Round 6: 0-2 Dignitas.(P)NaNiwa, Championship Lower Round 2)
(T)CocoA (Round 4: 0-2 Liquid'(P)HuK, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 1: ?-2 (T)EG.LzGaMeR)

Group:
(T)Mihai (Round 7, moved to group C: 1-3)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:



FXOpen - FXO
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Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:
(P)OpTiKzErO (Round 6: 0-2 Liquid'(Z)HayprO, Championship Lower Round 2)
(T)mOoNan (Round 5: 0-2 Liquid'(P)HuK, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 2)
(Z)Sheth (Round 3: 0-2 VT.(T)Pokebunny, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 2)

Group:
(T)qxc (Group B: 1-3)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(P)SLoG (Round 3: 0-2 EG.(Z)StrifeCro, Lower Round 4: ?-2 (Z)MasterAsia)



Fnatics - Fnatics
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:
(T)KawaiiRice (Round 5: 1-2 VT.(T)Spades, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 1: ?-2 FXOSheth)

Group:
(T)Gretorp (Group A: 0-4)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(T)Fenix (Group 3: 1-2 (P)coL.Cruncher, Lower Round 7: 0-2 VT.(T)Pokebunny)



VT Gaming - VT
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Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:
(T)Spades (Round 6: 0-2 Liquid'(P)HuK, Championship Lower Round 2)

Group:

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(T)Pokebunny (Round 4: 0-2 Dignitas.(P)NaNiwa, Lower Round 8: ?-2 VileHawk)
(Z)giX (Round 3: 1-2 Liquid'(Z)HayprO, Lower Round 8: ?-2 tkVim)
(P)Future(Round 4: 1-2 FXOmOoNan, Lower Round 6: ?-2 (T)LuckyFool)
(P)Mirhi (Round 4: 0-2 VileHawk, Lower Round 6: ?-2 FXOSheth)
(P)Whiplash (Round 2: 0-2 Fnatic.(T)Fenix, Lower Round 4: ?-2 (T)vVv.MurDeR)
(P)Perfect ???



Complexity Gaming - CoL
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Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:

Group:

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(T)Stalife (Round 1: 0-2 sixjax.(T)CocoA, Lower Round 7: ?-2 (T)Virus.Naama)
(P)rsvp (Round 1: 1-2 VileHawk, Lower Round 6: 1-2 VT.(T)Pokebunny)
(P)Antimage (Round 4: 0-2 (T)x6.ThisIsJimmy, Lower Round 6: ?-2 Nevarium)
(P)CrunCher (Round 4: 1-2 (P)FXOpTiKzErO, Lower Round 6: 1-2 (T)vVv.MurDeR)
Ryan (Round 2: 0-2 FXOSheth, Lower Round 5: ?-2 (P)coL.rsvp)



vVv Gaming - vVv
+ Show Spoiler +

Team coverage

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:

Group:

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(T)MurDeR (Round 3: 0-2 (Z)ROOT.CatZ, Lower Round 7: 0-2 FXOSheth)
(P)Time (Round 4: 0-2 sixjax.(T)Mihai, Lower Round 6: ?-2 (Z)MasterAsia)
DwAy (Round 3: 0-2 VT.(P)Future, Lower Round 5: ?-2 (T)Virus.Naama)
(Z)Rigid (Round 1: 0-2 (P)phantaxx, Lower Round 4: 0-2 (P)phantaxx)
(Z)Titan (Round 2: ?-2 (P)Slurgi, Lower Round 4: ?-2 (P)LG.iNkA)



Others
+ Show Spoiler +

Championship Upper Bracket:

Championship Lower Bracket:
* (T)x6.ThisIsJimmy (Round 5 1-2 sixjax.(T)Mihai, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 2)
* tkVim (Round 5: 0-2 Liquid'(Z)HayprO, Lower Round 9, Championship Lower Round 1: ?-2 (T)x6.ThisIsJimmy)
VileHawk (Round 5: 1-2 (P)FXOpTiKzErO, Lower Round 8, Championship Lower Round 1: ?-2 FXOmOoNan)

Group:
(P)aTn.Socke (Group A: 2-2)

Open Upper Bracket:

Open Lower Bracket:

Eliminated:
(P)Grubby (Round 5: 0-2 sixjax.(T)dde, Lower Round 8: ?-2 sixjax.(T)CocoA)
(Z)MasterAsia (Round 1: 0-2 EG.(Z)StrifeCro, Lower Round 8: ?-2 Fnatics.(T)KawaiiRice)
xiLost (Round 4: ?-2 Liquid'(Z)HayprO ,Lower Round 8: ?-2 FXOSheth)
(T)Virus.Naama (Round 3: 1-2 FXOmOoNan, Lower Round 8: 1-2 FXOmOoNan)
Tri_Master (Round 5: 0-2 Dignitas.(P)NaNiwa, Lower Round 8: ?-2 FXOSheth)
(T)vileHashe (Round 4: ?-2 VT.(T)Spades, Lower Round 6: ?-2 LG.(Z)Zelniq)
(T)LuckyFool (Round 2: 0-2 (T)Virus.Naama, Lower Round 7: 1-2 sixjax.(T)CocoA)
Nevarium (Round 3: ?-2 (T)vileHashe, Lower Round 7: 1-2 (Z)MasterAsia)
IDrone (Round 2: 0-2 sixjax.(T)CocoA, Lower Round 6: 0-2 sixjax.(T)CocoA)
(P)phantaxx (Round 3: 0-2 (T)EG.LzGaMeR, Lower Round 6: 0-2 (P)LG.ReSpOnSe)
(T)x6.Boo (Round 4: 0-2 (T)EG.LzGaMeR, Lower Round 6: 0-2 (P)EG.Axslav)
(P)Slurgi (Round 3: 0-2 Liquid'(P)HuK, Round 5: 0-2 (T)coL.Stalife)
mrbitter (Round 2: 0-2 xi.binksi, Lower Round 3: 0-2 (P)coL.rsvp)
(T)avilo ???



You are the man.
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Louky
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada72 Posts
April 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#10947
On April 03 2011 13:41 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:37 Louky wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:30 GypsyBeast wrote:
major dick move on HuKs part for brining that up in game for everyone to see. I think he should get disqualified for that TBH, it was totally off base :/


From the MLG rule book:

3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.

6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.


Technically HuK forfeited the game by taunting IdrA. You might argue that IdrA responded, but the game was already forfeited when he did. I wonder if this will come up tomorrow.

Technically, you can't read. Bolded the relevant part of the rule for people who keep bringing this nonsense up.


Saying "up yours" is not a show of sportsmanship.
dracu1a
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada24 Posts
April 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#10948
On April 03 2011 13:39 ffdestiny wrote:
What MLG should be:
[image loading]

What MLG really is:
[image loading]

Thanks compLexity Gaming!


Best post in the thread. Who is that in the second picture?
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 03 2011 04:46 GMT
#10949
On April 03 2011 13:37 Logginurkeyz wrote:
You guys need to realize that no matter how much money you throw at something- you can not force more bandwidth up a maxxed fibre cable than it can handle... The amount of upload MLG Dallas uses is ridiculous... 4 streams going (COD, Halo, SC2, and the pro stream that has a little of everything), plus all the SC2 games, plus the alienware station that has 4 desktops and 6 laptops all with only sc2 and ie on them...
Some of us sitting by the logistics guys for sc2 were having a deep discussion about the required amount of bandwidth they needed for upload for this event; and i believe the number we came up with was minimum 18mbit up, probably closer to 38mbit up... Dense fibre (the kind they have burried in Dallas) allows for a maximum of 32mbit(i think) up *(and only if you are a FiOS customer- i know this part is right)... Halo and COD games were all setup as LAN.
Also- more games were crashing than the main stage... I believe Rigid disconnected at least once, and when VTgix played against tkVim, they dropped twice... Also, on the feature stage, station 1, which I believe at the time was sixjax.mihai vs LG.PainUser they lagged so much that their games seemed to go on forever... I know the qxc v haypro games were just plain long, but i believe it WAS mihai's games that were lagged...
Hell, I didn't get to see grubby v dde because the lag was so bad... Apparently they did play- they must have moved when I was outside smoking or flirting with the Dr.Pepper chick...


They can buy more than one cable. If that sort of infrastructure is not available in Dallas, they shouldn't have an event in Dallas, end of story. Predicting the bandwidth your event will consume is not hard.

They also can implement some sort of QoS -- if the bandwidth is insufficient they should start dropping stream packets first.

And, as always -- this is why "no LAN play" was a seriously fucking dick move by Blizzard.
pureability
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
April 03 2011 04:46 GMT
#10950
On April 03 2011 13:43 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:42 Boof wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:28 Boof wrote:
Can anyone point me to where I can find the Tyler vs Machine replays? I can't seem to find that bracket anywhere.


Last call for help on this one.


http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html#

But there's no link to the downloads.


/faceplam. Click on "match info". Obtain replays. Some people amaze me with how incompetent they are
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
April 03 2011 04:46 GMT
#10951
Dignitas looking very strong so far! As a team they've only lost one series, which was a team kill. + 2 in the winner's bracket semis.
Asparagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States269 Posts
April 03 2011 04:46 GMT
#10952
On April 03 2011 13:45 dracu1a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:39 ffdestiny wrote:
What MLG should be:
[image loading]

What MLG really is:
[image loading]

Thanks compLexity Gaming!


Best post in the thread. Who is that in the second picture?


Me.
This isn't the right quote!
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10953
On April 03 2011 13:45 dracu1a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:39 ffdestiny wrote:
What MLG should be:
[image loading]

What MLG really is:
[image loading]

Thanks compLexity Gaming!


Best post in the thread. Who is that in the second picture?


Shit if I know, he's got a catchy look though.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10954
On April 03 2011 13:45 dracu1a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:39 ffdestiny wrote:
What MLG should be:
[image loading]

What MLG really is:
[image loading]

Thanks compLexity Gaming!


Best post in the thread. Who is that in the second picture?


He's one of the owners for coL.
Life?
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10955
There was a mistake on MLG.

Lz and Optik are playing as we speak

Moonan over Spades.
One Love
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10956
On April 03 2011 13:37 Louky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:30 GypsyBeast wrote:
major dick move on HuKs part for brining that up in game for everyone to see. I think he should get disqualified for that TBH, it was totally off base :/


From the MLG rule book:

3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.

6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.


Technically HuK forfeited the game by taunting IdrA. You might argue that IdrA responded, but the game was already forfeited when he did. I wonder if this will come up tomorrow.


No it will most certainly not come up. "just so you know most of that army" most certainly does not fall outside the realm of pre-game sportsmanship. He may have been somewhat snide about it (text is bad for sarcasm isn't it? We can't know) but he was letting IdrA know that he actually had the game in the bag. What most certainly does NOT fall under pre-game sportsmanship is "fuck you". As a matter of fact, that also falls under a technical foul for directed vulgar language at another player.

People are looking for ANY loophole to get IdrA to win and it doesn't even matter. There's no difference people!
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10957
On April 03 2011 13:43 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:41 Phaint wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:41 Moonwrath wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:37 Louky wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:30 GypsyBeast wrote:
major dick move on HuKs part for brining that up in game for everyone to see. I think he should get disqualified for that TBH, it was totally off base :/


From the MLG rule book:

3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game.

6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game.


Technically HuK forfeited the game by taunting IdrA. You might argue that IdrA responded, but the game was already forfeited when he did. I wonder if this will come up tomorrow.

Technically, you can't read. Bolded the relevant part of the rule for people who keep bringing this nonsense up.


How is it "sportsmanship" and not a direct taunt?

Because taunting is sportsmanship, just not very good sportsmanship.


No its not. Huk clearly dq'd him self gg upholding rules.. MLG wants to be the next NCAA suweet
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10958
On April 03 2011 13:43 Primadog wrote:

Haypro went 1-3.
Administrator
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 03 2011 04:47 GMT
#10959
On April 03 2011 13:44 Asparagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On April 03 2011 13:18 LloydRays wrote:
So naniwa has been 4gating his way like 90% of his matches... I can understand it to an extent, however, i lost respect when he does it in the pool play as well.


It's perfectly reasonable. Playing so many Bo3s in one day is extremely exhausting, plus he has to face off against the cream of the crop tomorrow. Both the mental and physical fatigue don't go away after one night of sleep either.


This is true, but after seeing a lot of his games I just can't stop thinking that he's the next TSL_rain. Actually. No. I take that back. It's disappointing that you can confidently fall on a single BO to get you through the day.


I doubt you have seen a lot of games from Nani. He can play macro base and he does. He also has a good 4gate and uses it often, yes.

To be fair, his games vs Agh and Tyler were PvP, so no surprise there. Vs Machine and Pokebunny he did play long games.

So please don't just make something up.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
April 03 2011 04:48 GMT
#10960
Was the Idra/HuK conversation during the game, or during a pause due to lag? It's hard to tell from replays, and makes a pretty big difference rule-wise.
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