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On March 29 2011 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:14 dunc wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Don't understand why MKP isnt on that list when MVP is. They are both insane players slumping. MKP is still very talented and easily top5 in the world when he's in form. The thing is that MKP has looked off form ever since he lost to MVP IMO. Knocked to Up/Downs, gets totally schooled by Rainbow in the GSTL, and also got schooled by Alive in the first GSTL. Then he goes and looks terrible against Sen. At least MVP showed very strong matches in the recent GSTL.
Keyword is atm. MVP raping him showed he had to work on his mech. Shook him up much too. But I have hope!
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San was actually a good choice (if it had been chosen) given team World having 4 zergs.
His PvZ is absolutely BEAST: he's beaten NesTea and Sen without making a single colossus in either game, or winning with early pressure attacks. Reflect on the PvX matchup for a moment and take in how impressive that actually is.
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On March 29 2011 22:18 Brad wrote:
It's not like the World team was the strongest team either, I don't get the constant Korean-love whining. It seems like we have been brainwashed by Artosis/IdrA etc saying how amazing Koreans are on a daily basis.
Both teams were not the strongest team.
You can't judge a pro player from just one or two games. It's going to take a bit of time to sort out the truly best for all countries.
Some of Code S player in GSL doesn't deserve to be in Code S, Some code players should be in code s and some code B players have the potential to be the best.
So it's the same thing.
At this point, the most known and the people who have good resume were sent in both teams.
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All are winners... except b.net 2.0.... It´s unforgivable tha it destroyed the best TvZ matchup i have ever seen.
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On March 29 2011 22:18 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:15 HolyArrow wrote:On March 29 2011 22:14 dunc wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Don't understand why MKP isnt on that list when MVP is. They are both insane players slumping. MKP is still very talented and easily top5 in the world when he's in form. The thing is that MKP has looked off form ever since he lost to MVP IMO. Knocked to Up/Downs, gets totally schooled by Rainbow in the GSTL, and also got schooled by Alive in the first GSTL. Then he goes and looks terrible against Sen. At least MVP showed very strong matches in the recent GSTL. And MVP is in code A.
What's your point? TheWind is in Code S - you think he's better than MVP? Code A/S status means nothing. Try looking at specific performances in recent games instead of just looking at broad tournament statuses that don't mean much. It's possible to get unlucky/slump only during the up/downs and then play better in the near future. If you compare MVP's recent play to MKP's recent play, MVP is doing far better.
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On March 29 2011 22:15 Qaatar wrote:
Ryung and Min should replace San and July. I don't want to judge based on results, but off of playing ability from games. While I love July, he hasn't been impressive at all, and San is solid but not spectacularly good.
Ryung's TvT and TvP are both extremely solid, and Min is just a macro monster with a good head for strategy. Both just qualified for Code A, btw. I don't think half of the guys on this list could do that (although, a good amount of luck is involved due to the inherent volatility of the game). :D
I call a troll on this one...
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July overall MVP, Dimaga foreigners MVP.
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It'd be clutch if Dimaga stayed in Korea for GSL 
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On March 29 2011 22:19 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:14 dunc wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Don't understand why MKP isnt on that list when MVP is. They are both insane players slumping. MKP is still very talented and easily top5 in the world when he's in form. Anyway you will see tomorrow! MKP's unit control is slightly better, but MVP is superior in every other aspect IMO.
I think MarineKing's decision making/micro are second to none though I agree mvp is superior in every other aspect. MarineKing knows this as well considering in the finals he didn't even seem to try.
One 2-0 against Leenock was pretty much the only thing I saw out of MKP. MVP lost to some really good Protoss players, and he made up for it pretty well in the GSTL showing that he can play a very strong game against Tester and almost bringing it all back for IM against SlayerS.
Tester is by the worst Protoss in the GSL.. I honestly don't think that should be any indication. It still hurts my head when I think about the way he's been playing since s1
oh and the game vs slayers_ryung I think it was mvp got outplayed in every single way possible and got thrown left and right till the end, where ryung got caught off guard by the battlecruisers so it didnt look that impressive to me
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On March 29 2011 22:16 thefreed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:08 dacthehork wrote:
I think in overall strength Ukraine won this I am a korean living in the USA and I've never lost an arm wrestling match. I've won against Iranians, african/americans, and white people even when they were taller and a lot bigger bulkier then me. I've hung out with blood gangsters at one time and they thought they would win against me and when I won, they were shocked. I was 17 years old and those guys were in there 20s-30s. All these gangster guys think I am not that strong from my looks. I think I am gifted in arm strength... but people always think I would lose cause I am skinny/average and I am average height.
This completely random post made me lol so hard. Wrong thread maybe?
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On March 29 2011 22:20 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:17 nanoscorp wrote:On March 29 2011 22:15 Qaatar wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Ryung and Min should replace San and July. I don't want to judge based on results, but off of playing ability from games. While I love July, he hasn't been impressive at all... :D wait, what? Did you watch the matches today? July is great and perhaps most important, getting better every day. People have been saying the same thing ever since he started winning. Not sure how July can convince his doubters wrong really.
To all those you just have to show them how he played versus zenex byun in the Code A matches and how he plays now. If someone can't see the improvement there it is hopeless to convince him.
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On March 29 2011 22:18 andrea20 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:15 Qaatar wrote:
Ryung and Min should replace San and July. Oh come on, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. You want to crown Min as a top 8 player after just 2 televised games? Ryung after 7? Really? Over people like HongUn and Rainbow who have appeared in every single GSL?
...because I said I don't judge on results, but on how impressive they played. All I see from July is macro that isn't as efficient as it could be, and questionable decision making. Results don't mean everything, especially in this volative as fuck game. Kas doesn't have very many results in offline tournaments either, but everyone knows his strength in play as pretty much the best T in Europe.
Granted, there's an inherent ability to perform live that is a huge factor, but i think Ryung and Min have proved that they can perform under pressure (GSTL).
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On March 29 2011 22:19 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:08 enemy2010 wrote:On March 29 2011 22:07 nokz88 wrote:On March 29 2011 22:01 funcmode wrote:![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/jpXH1.jpg) Amazing games, will go down in history! That's a representation of what I would like to see in this community, but people get too carried away with this koreans vs foreigners shit... I don't think players on either side actually care all that much about that... sigh The showmatch was called "Korea vs. the World".... So what? Does that make it okay to player bashing now? Just take a look in this thread if you don't know what I'm talking about...
Get the fuck over yourself, this is a sport. I bet if you saw someone paying out Kobe you wouldnt be pissed off about it. Why? Since its all passion. I fucking hated Korea tonight, but i still respect every single one of them, its all part of the fun and the passion. Its not mean, its not rude, it what a fucking world championship is about, them vs us
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On March 29 2011 22:22 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:19 Zane wrote:On March 29 2011 22:14 dunc wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Don't understand why MKP isnt on that list when MVP is. They are both insane players slumping. MKP is still very talented and easily top5 in the world when he's in form. Anyway you will see tomorrow! MKP's unit control is slightly better, but MVP is superior in every other aspect IMO. I think MarineKing's decision making/micro are second to none though I agree mvp is superior in every other aspect. MarineKing knows this as well considering in the finals he didn't even seem to try. Show nested quote +One 2-0 against Leenock was pretty much the only thing I saw out of MKP. MVP lost to some really good Protoss players, and he made up for it pretty well in the GSTL showing that he can play a very strong game against Tester and almost bringing it all back for IM against SlayerS.
Tester is by the worst Protoss in the GSL.. I honestly don't think that should be any indication. It still hurts my head when I think about the way he's been playing since s1
Did you watch his GSTL game? Both players played very beautifully. MVP also knocked out a couple other Protosses in the GSTL, though I forget which players.
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On March 29 2011 22:22 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:19 Zane wrote:On March 29 2011 22:14 dunc wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Don't understand why MKP isnt on that list when MVP is. They are both insane players slumping. MKP is still very talented and easily top5 in the world when he's in form. Anyway you will see tomorrow! MKP's unit control is slightly better, but MVP is superior in every other aspect IMO. I think MarineKing's decision making/micro are second to none though I agree mvp is superior in every other aspect. MarineKing knows this as well considering in the finals he didn't even seem to try. Show nested quote +One 2-0 against Leenock was pretty much the only thing I saw out of MKP. MVP lost to some really good Protoss players, and he made up for it pretty well in the GSTL showing that he can play a very strong game against Tester and almost bringing it all back for IM against SlayerS.
Tester is by the worst Protoss in the GSL.. I honestly don't think that should be any indication. It still hurts my head when I think about the way he's been playing since s1
Keep in mind Tester has been on the cutting edge of PvX builds for a while.
The now nerfed pylon/cannon block was his (thanks a lot, lol), and he was using colossi/phoenix PvT long before it was popular in the metagame (think back to some all-star tournament *name eludes me* where he won a great game vs Nada on LT)
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On March 29 2011 22:21 Tschis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:16 Tschis wrote:
Since the VODs are free, is there a way I can download them? I can't make it work by streaming, it just takes forever with my net, so I'd rather download them while sleeping and watch everything at once when I have the .flvs
Anyone can help out?
//tx Anyone? //tx
I've seeing people say VideoCacheView works. And that is found in another thread in TL, next time try a search first.
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will the hq stream be free for the tournament tomorrow?
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On March 29 2011 22:20 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:17 nanoscorp wrote:On March 29 2011 22:15 Qaatar wrote:On March 29 2011 22:10 Cranberries wrote:
Best 8 Koreans (IMO):
Nestea
MVP
MC
LosirA
MMA
July
San
Alicia Ryung and Min should replace San and July. I don't want to judge based on results, but off of playing ability from games. While I love July, he hasn't been impressive at all... :D wait, what? Did you watch the matches today? July is great and perhaps most important, getting better every day. People have been saying the same thing ever since he started winning. Not sure how July can prove his doubters wrong really.
The thing is, doubters will be doubters, haters will hate, and fans will be fans. I don't thing it's something people can rationalize. Hence, the never ending arguments on who is "better" than whom.
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Mind /exploded/. Man, what an epic KvW showmatch.  SO AWESOME!
Dude(s) (and dudette(s)), the last few weeks, with TSL, GSL finals, GSTL, and now, WC, MLG, /more/ TSL, I feel like I'm watching/listening/reading about SC2 for about 80% of my day, every day! (The other 20% being sleep/work/eat...)
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On March 29 2011 22:23 ragingfungus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 22:16 thefreed wrote:On March 29 2011 22:08 dacthehork wrote:
I think in overall strength Ukraine won this I am a korean living in the USA and I've never lost an arm wrestling match. I've won against Iranians, african/americans, and white people even when they were taller and a lot bigger bulkier then me. I've hung out with blood gangsters at one time and they thought they would win against me and when I won, they were shocked. I was 17 years old and those guys were in there 20s-30s. All these gangster guys think I am not that strong from my looks. I think I am gifted in arm strength... but people always think I would lose cause I am skinny/average and I am average height. This completely random post made me lol so hard. Wrong thread maybe?
I'm trying not to laugh out loud at work haha xD
//tx
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