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PieLieDie
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden172 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1961
eu->na is ofc better than kr->na but not that bad, many NA pros play on KR with playable delay so you cant blame everything on latency
oikia
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia17 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1962
Nexus first against MVP is a slap in the face and going gate heavy and wining against MVP MMM is a great indicator of the "Force" slowly switching from Korea to the EU and NA. the game is no more just APM and i'm expecting the Koreans to lose a lot to "forigners"

Adelscott Fighting!!!!!
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1963
On March 27 2011 04:06 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:03 Namu wrote:
We'll see if lag was what made adelscott the winner, or if it was just raw skill, or perhaps both, in the super tournament. Well actually I don't know if adelscott is planning to participate in any korean tournaments...

On the other hand, 2nd game was pretty sick. Ended up being gateway vs barracks


Well thats the weird part about these situations. I'm pretty sure that if Adellscot went to Korea, he would get his ass kicked in the GSL qualifiers and wouldn't even make it on TV. But he beats MVP who is one of the stronger players in Korea.

It really just shows the power of preperation. Adellscot probably practised PvT for weeks and studied MVP's playstyle to bits. MVP probably woke up an hour ago and kinda expected to just roll a random Protoss.

Anyone who followed BW knows the power of the prepared sniper. Fantasy vs Stork shows exactly how a lazy attitude will fuck you over


It is definitely tough to say if MVP prepared for this at all, and with the lag his normal micro was seriously affected. Nonetheless he made some fundamentally poor decisions. I'm thinking his TvP slump is going to continue to get worse
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1964
Horribly handled by Genius.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1965
On March 27 2011 04:08 OskO wrote:
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Well done Adelscott, I bet you've got some fine coaching.

Damn that is epic
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OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1966
On March 27 2011 04:09 Jyvblamo wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:08 happyness wrote:

On March 27 2011 04:01 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
This game is ridiculous. Seriously. Adelscott with the worst macro and wins.It's fucking ridiculous.


Uhhhhh, how is his macro bad? His money stays low and he gets ahead economically of Mvp......

His money was regularly over 1k after the first major battles in both games.


It's hard to stay low 100% of the time when you are on 3-4 bases because you have to wait for the WG cooldown to finish. Those 40 seconds (?) without warpins will have an impact on his money. Just how it works.
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Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1967
yay qxc, kill those sentries!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1968
On March 27 2011 04:09 Jinsho wrote:
Guys, I think we have to stop the tournament... I just figured something out... we can't let this go on....

... some people have lag!!

Stop making up excuses for your favourite players. You're the lowest kind of fanboys if you do that. Be strict with your stars. Demand performance. Don't just lap their shit up.


And stop ignoring reality. You obviously have no idea what it's like playing competitively with lag. Demanding performance from MVP who loses a reaper to probes due to lag is like demanding performance from my favorite boxer when he's fighting with one arm tied behind his back. It's being stupidly unreasonable.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1969
Ack guys, please go to the production tab - not the APM tab :-(
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1970
Genius lost a ton of gas in sentries from qxc's fast push ._.
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Heaton31
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1971
thats how you do it, kill the sentries, expand safely. np.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1972
Wow, lost a ton of sentries. Gogo qxc!
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:12:21
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1973
lol Genius ? hmm What Im gonna do ... How about I waste 500 GAS rofl and the FF really didnt do anything. Zealots wouldve been better....
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1974
Genius losing that many sentries this early could very well spell gg.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1975
you guys can't be serious thinking it was lag that made mvp play bad?
it's pretty impossible to win vs upgraded protoss with mmm ball with no upgrades of your own, plus he wasted so many stims, and 400 ms is less than 1 seconds, that doesn't mean you see a unit near you that's actually half a map away, at best it's couple pixels

adel just played amazing, mvp didn't know what to do, and that's it
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andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
March 26 2011 19:11 GMT
#1976
None of you know which server the games were played on or whether it alterntaed per game and you dont know if they had actual lag or how much the difference between each others ping was. Stop being all omg look at me i can make shit up to prove a point. find out the rules for the server choice then come back and bitch about lag
Phaint
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada211 Posts
March 26 2011 19:12 GMT
#1977
Adelscott is from Europe, they're playing on NA. Sure, maybe there was lag for MVP (Adelscott too?), blame it on that if you want.

What about when foreigners go to Korea and play in the GSL, do you think they're comfortable in that studio? In Korea? Everyone has their advantages in certain situations, we don't always blame every single win/loss on these.

Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:12:39
March 26 2011 19:12 GMT
#1978
On March 27 2011 04:09 Logo2010 wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:05 ftd.rain wrote:
I'm beginning to notice a pattern here.
500+posts : Lag bi-winning.
0-100 posts : Adelscott so good omfg, he outplayed MVP so heavily!!


Exactly

know little about sc - woo woo
more knowledgeable - wtf?!

what's with all the people saying this have low post counts
seriously what's going on
I'm in the same universe as everyone else right
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
March 26 2011 19:12 GMT
#1979
On March 27 2011 04:09 TeWy wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:07 Darneck wrote:
MVP did NOT lose his marine due to lag, he wasn't looking at it. The marine didn't even try to run away or anything even after he was surrounded, he never issued the order for the marine to retreat.



Sure, he lost both his marine and reaper to probe because he wasn't looking at them... even though he is a EX BW pro, and a GSL champion, he wasn't able to mutlitask SCV production and marine harass.... got to be fucking kidding me huh?

Yes, cause obviously that makes him immune to making mistakes from time to time?

Sure, the reaper may have been lost due to lag, but the marine wasn't even ordered to run away from the probes.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 26 2011 19:12 GMT
#1980
awesome sniping those sentries early on!!!
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