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Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
March 26 2011 19:09 GMT
#1921
On March 27 2011 04:05 ftd.rain wrote:
I'm beginning to notice a pattern here.
500+posts : Lag bi-winning.
0-100 posts : Adelscott so good omfg, he outplayed MVP so heavily!!


Exactly

know little about sc - woo woo
more knowledgeable - wtf?!
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 26 2011 19:09 GMT
#1922
Adelscott played sick, showing the power of gateway units to the terrans.

However, saying lag from EU to NA and KR to NA is just non-sense...
You can play from EU on NA with pretty much very subtle lag that you can ignore,
but you'll average 300~400 ms and spike up to as high as 1000 ms from time to time from KR.
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
March 26 2011 19:09 GMT
#1923
ghost play?
rG
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1924
On March 27 2011 04:05 ZXRP wrote:
To all complaining about the lag, remember it was the same for both players.


korea <-> usa connection is whole different than eu <-> usa connection.

ever watched sotg? idra lagged out all the time from korea. also he said if he connects to korea server from usa, he has no chance to beat any good player because micro is impossible due to lag.
NesTea <3
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1925
On March 27 2011 04:03 ZeraToss wrote:
hahah love it how they say : "he didnt play well blabla" man adel just destroyed him, he is better, remember that mvp is code a and he isnt good at tvp


Lol.... its funny how people can decide one player is better than another based on just one series.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1926
On March 27 2011 04:09 TitleRug wrote:
adelscott vs MC :O

is that the follow up?? MC= pvp monster, and i want adel to go far QQ
dr Helvetica <3
a helpless baby
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada42 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1927
QXC is my favorite underdog. When his micro is ON he is almost unstoppable! Although he does tend to have bad mechanics against TOP Koreans...and sometimes seems to choke and make a frequent mistakes?
Still super-fun to watch!
I plan to live forever, so far, so good
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1928
QXC looking for his first win under the FXO tag, hopefully.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1929
On March 27 2011 04:07 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:05 aoe2fan wrote:
Koreans who always play on the korean server probably never experience lag mass gateway + upgrade + fast expos . So this might aswell have been the first time MVP played with some major lag against this. Could throw your game of quite a bit.



fixed it for you


Fairly certain it's both. As with Thorzain vs Fruitdealer, Adelscott had a good strategy and executed it very well, versus MVP not making the decisions he should have and simply not playing at his optimal level. Lag may have affected his general mood, but it was certainly not the sole cause of this loss.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
ROOTDdoRo
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada134 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1930
Just compare MVP's reaction time in GSL and then in TSL
there is a huge difference...

on playxp forum, YedOrPrime stated he directly heard from mvp
that he was suffering from lag really bad, the lag likely goes up and down
it's not consistent, however 1sec+ spike(lag) in a battle can mess up the game alot

for instance, losing a reaper to 15 nexus? lol
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1931
Are they alternating between NA and KOR server when NA / EU players play against KOR players??? Thank you!!! (a pm would be much appreciated, this thread is quite fast. )
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1932
For the people saying lag did only play a minor factor: Lag kills your feeling for the game, making you make bad decisions. Also, I think Adelscott goes for a normally extremely greedy build in the second game, as he knows that MVP can't punish him without micro. Look at how poorly the reaper was microed. Of course you get better upgrades and have superior army if you get a nexus first through without any bigger losses.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1933
There's a new game happening. Enough with the comments about lag.

Sheesh. Go go qxc!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1934
I like how many mistakes in unit control the toss can make and lose all of those armies but easily just comes back anytime the terrran tries to do some economic damage. i really hope something is done in the future, so sick of terran having to do everything 2 steps ahead of a protoss and do it flawlessly to win. spamming W is pretty good.

User was temp banned for this post.
navara
Profile Joined September 2010
France95 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1935
it's not the first time a korean player lose to a foreigner one, why lag only played a role in those game ? adel is really that bad ? .....
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1936
MVP isn't in form. Simple as that. He's been playing sub par recently and the results of this reinforce that. He's still a great player though.
AlexDeLarge
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania218 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1937
On March 27 2011 04:05 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:02 AlexDeLarge wrote:
When you play under huge lag conditions, u cannot expect even the best player in the world to perform optimal. You get demoralised and say to yourself "whats the point when i got 2 sec delay". If they played this on lan, MVP would roflstomp him, i'd put heavy $ on that bet.


id take that bet, the thing people dont really say is that MVP is out there, he is a known figure and he has TONS of games to study, scot while DAMN good is no where near exposed as MVP so he can not be studied like MVP can

back to my point, ill take that bet!


Alright, if they ever play offline, PM me. I'll even give you 2:1 odds.
Its only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
12D3
Profile Joined February 2010
United States39 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1938
--- Nuked ---
Colak
Profile Joined December 2010
United States87 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1939
On March 27 2011 04:07 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:06 branflakes14 wrote:
Armour upgrades + Guardian Shield = MMM is worthless. Might've been worth it to drop to take out Forges.


Or just get upgrades yourself so it's even again? But I haven't seen any Terran do that against upgrade-style Protoss O.o

That's what I do. I just get double ups and get viking ups and go at them
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States407 Posts
March 26 2011 19:10 GMT
#1940
Upsets are what make tournaments exciting

Adel played well even if there was lag, MVP did not play well

gg no re MVP
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