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ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4461
On March 27 2011 05:42 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:26 rysecake wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:22 Bleak wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:19 Lann555 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 AlBundy wrote:
Seriously we need more international tournaments / leagues. Foreigners are doing really well in the TSL however this is but a small sample. I wouldn't judge relative player's skills based on one bo3.


I honestly cannot wait till the GSL World Champioship. No lag to interfere and Koreans will certainly come prepared for those matches. That will truly show where the skill levels are


What is this Korean fetish here? Yes they practice hard and they deserve where they are, but they are not God. With enough practice and good play, they can be beaten.

Qxc played amazingly there, and as someone else said, Genius reacted time-wise perfectly to the drops, and in the engagements, the EMPs drove his templars back and his army lost to QxCs. I specifically looked for it, in the engagements multiple times, Genius pulled his templars back in fear of EMP. That was why the rest of his army was demolished by QxCs in that small time frame. And also, the rest of the EMPs were great aswell.



There is no fetish. No one is saying Koreans are unbeatable. Foreigners can obviously take games off them and they have so far. You cannot deny the fact that Koreans are better and that latency is playing an issue. All the foreigner pros have mentioned it in their pre game interviews. Idra said it, TLO said it, QXC said it. Obviously the lag is affecting them, but I won't take anything away from the foreigners either.


What Idra and all the other guys have said that they are better because they practice better in a team house environment. The foreigner players at the moment are forming player houses and practicing in a team environment, similar to how it's done in Korea. So they are catching up, in qxc's case even surpassing them.

Jesus christ,ahahaahhhahahahahahahahah, you should join a circus man, good one!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4462
On March 27 2011 05:46 zaii wrote:
WTF just happened? woke up to find out MVP and MC lost? what? I'm confused.. Where art thou VODS!!


MC played last week...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4463
50k viewers oO
was there any esport stream with that many watchers?
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4464
On March 27 2011 05:43 whataballer wrote:
Must resist urge to say Goody lost due to lag lol


how true
Always smile~
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4465
On March 27 2011 05:45 Baby_Seal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:13 teamsolid wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:10 bennyaus wrote:
oGsMC twitter:

oGsMC 장민철
forienger progamers rank upgrade.. i need practice ^^

oGsMC 장민철
today TSL My gaming MInd Shock! i think Korean progamer better than forienger progamers but today i played FX Open & seeing TSL

Did MC lose to some foreigner in the FX Open?


Cloud beat MC 2-0 in the winners bracket of the FX Open. Check beat MC 2-0 in the loser's bracket.

Clearly due to lag, Both against, Cloud and Check,
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4466
On March 27 2011 05:45 ZeraToss wrote:
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On March 27 2011 05:44 Mawi wrote:
Hot_Bid Amazing Camera obsing is awesome
+1 Award for ze BID


how u know hot bid is obsing? its replays

? Hotbid is streaming his screen and obsing the replay, and we know because it's been said multiple times. He's doing a really good job of it.
(ಥ_ಥ)
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4467
why would TSL invite koreans, i dont get it, huge lag, zero communication, after watching those games, I dont find why koreans are better than foreign, or it because of lagg, or whatever the reason is...

TSL2 and TSL1 had less lagg issues =/
jagnap
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany29 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4468
On March 27 2011 05:45 vdale wrote:
Don't question Goody. If Goody scouts a Greater Spire, he builds more tanks!

Thanks for this comment. Made my day :D
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4469
On March 27 2011 05:46 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:44 HeroMystic wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:42 GP wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:41 HeroMystic wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:40 Mailing wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:39 Namu wrote:
nestea is too good...



NesTea would of lost of Goody had a reactor starport with vikings ready

^This.

If Goody transitioned into Vikings he would've rofl-stomped.

and he would have gotten roflstomped himself if Nestea had Ultras ready, anyone can play the stupid counter game.

But he didn't.

And neither did Goody, which is why it's a stupid counter game.


I think that in pretty much every RTS, if your opponent has air, and you have no AA., you will loose, counters or not.

I think,
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4470
On March 27 2011 05:45 Kingqway wrote:
I very, very, very rarely respond to threads filled with just "biased" "unbiased" arguments, but the reaction to this TSL Day3 is absolutely ridiculous. [not that my opinion matters lmao].

But with all honesty, this TSL3's matches have been completely ruined for me by this thread, and all the reactions. Half of me agrees with all the people saying lag is a major factor in the match outcomes, but its so sad to see that this lag issue is causing such a rage that all the foreign players are losing credibility and acknowledgment.

I honestly thought adelscott's build was interesting, considering that he rushed for armor upgrades fast, but I was so disappointed with MVP's plays as well. Reading this thread made me only listen to what was going on in Genius' match so I barely got to see that. I decided to stop reading to watch Nesttea's match, which he absolutely dominated, though with weird trade-offs.

I feel bad for the players who have to participate in this garbage, where their fans are just arguing over lag issues / real or not, thus taking away all their achievements, if any, that were made in this tournament. Then again, if lag is a problem, then the fans do have a full right to argue that.

I wonder what the players themselves have to say about this.


Fanboys are trash, be it Koreans or foreigners.

Just support the game. Dont make excuses for your players, they don't need you to excuse their bad gameplay or to tell everyone else how they totally would have dominated under <any other set of conditions except the one just now which was totally unfair>


MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4471
On March 27 2011 05:46 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:45 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: Xel'Naga Caverns
[image loading] (T)ESC.GoOdy 0 vs 1
[image loading]
(Z)IMNesTea
NesTea spawns as Blue Zerg @1
Goody spawns as Red Terran @7

Goody with 10-Supply-Rax-Gas. Orbital on 15.

NesTea with 14 hatch, 16 pool.

3:30
Goody with a bunker at the nat. 2 drones pulled, Goody cancels the bunker. Not much else going on.

NesTea with a gas steal from his scouting drone. 2 marines start work on the extractor.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
sechkie
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States334 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4472
On March 27 2011 05:42 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:26 rysecake wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:22 Bleak wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:19 Lann555 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:18 AlBundy wrote:
Seriously we need more international tournaments / leagues. Foreigners are doing really well in the TSL however this is but a small sample. I wouldn't judge relative player's skills based on one bo3.


I honestly cannot wait till the GSL World Champioship. No lag to interfere and Koreans will certainly come prepared for those matches. That will truly show where the skill levels are


What is this Korean fetish here? Yes they practice hard and they deserve where they are, but they are not God. With enough practice and good play, they can be beaten.

Qxc played amazingly there, and as someone else said, Genius reacted time-wise perfectly to the drops, and in the engagements, the EMPs drove his templars back and his army lost to QxCs. I specifically looked for it, in the engagements multiple times, Genius pulled his templars back in fear of EMP. That was why the rest of his army was demolished by QxCs in that small time frame. And also, the rest of the EMPs were great aswell.



There is no fetish. No one is saying Koreans are unbeatable. Foreigners can obviously take games off them and they have so far. You cannot deny the fact that Koreans are better and that latency is playing an issue. All the foreigner pros have mentioned it in their pre game interviews. Idra said it, TLO said it, QXC said it. Obviously the lag is affecting them, but I won't take anything away from the foreigners either.


What Idra and all the other guys have said that they are better because they practice better in a team house environment. The foreigner players at the moment are forming player houses and practicing in a team environment, similar to how it's done in Korea. So they are catching up, in qxc's case even surpassing them.


I wouldn't quite say that qxc has surpassed them, qxc is a decent player but that second game i feel like has to do with the protoss uncertainty on how to handle harass based bio without warp in templars. Protoss still has to adjust to this as their army just melts to a couple good emp and vikings.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4473
nice gas steal, slow down the mech
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4474
Repeated gas steal - thats really good against mech play.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4475
On March 27 2011 05:46 1Eris1 wrote:
Not going to lie, Goody is a pretty weak player. Poor mechanics, can't react to anything that well.


Then why is he owning it up in European tournies all the time? He can compete on even level with players like Kas/BratOK/Dimaga
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4476
LOL NESTEA WITH THE GAS STEAL

He knows he only does Mech
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4477
On March 27 2011 05:47 ftd.rain wrote:
Jesus christ,ahahaahhhahahahahahahahah, you should join a circus man, good one!

If you're not going to contribute then don't post.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 26 2011 20:48 GMT
#4478
On March 27 2011 05:48 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:46 MoonBear wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:45 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: Xel'Naga Caverns
[image loading] (T)ESC.GoOdy 0 vs 1
[image loading]
(Z)IMNesTea
NesTea spawns as Blue Zerg @1
Goody spawns as Red Terran @7

Goody with 10-Supply-Rax-Gas. Orbital on 15.

NesTea with 14 hatch, 16 pool.

3:30
Goody with a bunker at the nat. 2 drones pulled, Goody cancels the bunker. Not much else going on.

NesTea with a gas steal from his scouting drone. 2 marines start work on the extractor.

5:15
Goody going 1-1-1 build. Nestea going roach den.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 20:50:45
March 26 2011 20:49 GMT
#4479
Nestea really dismantling Goody's style.

Edit: nvm >.<
/commercial
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
March 26 2011 20:49 GMT
#4480
Need to use his mech to control the map. At least control the ground. I don't know, make big tank lines, cut the map in half, put towers and thors everywhere.
o choro é livre
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