I still feel that Genius could have won that 2nd game quite easily at a few different points. But the key here is that he DIDN'T. Because he didn't take advantage of those opportunities he let QXC come back and harass him to death.

But if you're going to argue "Genius just didn't do _____ at time ____ " then you could also argue the same thing for QXC in which case he would have rolled over Genius. Do I think the play was sloppy at times? Definitely. Did I still enjoy the hell out of the games? Most certainly. Genius might be the "better" player, but he didn't show it in that match and that's what matters.

Genius didn't lose because of "imbalance" or "lag" he lost because he just didn't take advantage of his leads when he had the chance. That happens in every game (even "real" sports). QXC deserved that last victory even if both played sloppy. That's just how the game goes.

I would have liked to see QXC make like 5-6 or more reapers and THEN harass with it so he could do some more damage. Or nuke both expansions at the same time. But I'm super stoked about those entertaining games! And even though i voted for NesTea on liquibet, GOGOGOGO GOODY!!!

GO GO NA/EU!!!!!!!

Jimmeh

United Kingdom908 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3964

On March 27 2011 05:23 tdt wrote:

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Too many mistakes. Passive play. Like watching a couple silvers. Length does not equal good.

Mistakes, yes. Passive play? What the fuck.

MoonBear

Straight outta Johto18973 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3965

On March 27 2011 05:22 MoonBear wrote:
Match 1: < Shakuras Plateau (Crossmap Spawns Only) >
[image loading]

ESC.GoOdy vs

IMNesTea

IM.NesTea spawns as Blue Zerg @1
ESC.Goody spawns as Red Terran @7

1:30
Nestea with Extractor trick for the extra drone. Goody with engineering bay block at the nat. Nestea pulls 4 drones to attack the engibay. Depot-rax wall at the main ramp.

Mawi

Sweden4365 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3966

Aww man i dont want to be a rude guy but i definatley want to see both Minerals/Gas/Supply :/

Glimred

China888 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3967

Wow Goody has over 100 apm, I'm so proud of him

Lann555

Netherlands5173 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3968

On March 27 2011 05:22 cujo2k wrote:
There's absolutely no denying that koreans > foreigners, but they are not good enough to overcome a latency disadvantage. In Broodwar, they would've overcame it due to the huge discrepancy of skills though.

They aren't good enough to overcome the discrepancy of preperation. The foreigners are playing sharp with good builds and knowledge of their opponents. MVP/Genius clearly hadn't put in the effort and it showed. And they aren't quite good enough to get away with that

anthraxalfa

Sweden26 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3969

I don't see that post on MC's twitter?

Jinsho

United Kingdom3101 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3970

Goody is a low APM player. That's how he rolls...uh...sieges :D

TheRhox

Canada868 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3971

nestea is going to take this

Pitons

Lithuania45 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3972

They called us nerds

mcc

Czech Republic4646 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3973

On March 27 2011 05:14 venge1155 wrote:

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This set was played off seeds, so First game (that Genius LOST) was on KR and the 2nd game was on NA. I did not see a bunch of Storms missing or other obvious lag tells. So he lost on his server and on NA (possibly EU being as QXC is in Span, but I am not sure no which server they used.

there were a lot of terribly missed ffs that were either due to lag (more likely) or Genius is gold leaguer. Also it seemed like he has given up on storms later and morphed even templars with a lot of energy to archons. And just to note I found Adel vs MVP fully deserved Adel win. In qxc-Genius game I did not like either's players play and the lag(or terrible ffs) saved qxc at least once in second game, but Genius not expanding when in better position was his own fault. If he went Adel's mass gateway style lag or not lag he would have probably won thanks to early advantage.

EDIT:I am talking about second game, I mostly liked 1st game by qxc.

DaCruise

Denmark2457 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3974

Hehe,,"a stadium of nerds"

jazzbassmatt

United States566 Posts

March 26 2011 20:24 GMT

#3975

On March 27 2011 05:13 Creighton wrote:

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You're a retard. This lag everyone is talking about has not even shown. Especially in the second match of Genius and QXC, with Genius reacting pretty instantly to drops (even if moving his whole army to them was kind of silly.)

Also, can I ask how a fucking earthquake effects the latency? I've been reading into it and have found nothing to suggest that an earthquake would have the slightest impact on latency.

As has been said by many before
Korean wins: OMG THEY'RE SO GOOD
Korean loses: OMG BLAME LAG
Non-Korean in Korea loses: NEEDS MORE KOREAN TRAINING

Most people are stupid, and this debate proves it.

User was warned for this post

You say it kind of strongly, but I agree with most of what you're saying. mvp and genius just seemed outplayed to me, and I don't see any reason why europeans would have any less lag than koreans.

tdt

United States3179 Posts

March 26 2011 20:25 GMT

#3976

I love MC never QQs

What do yoou think about HT nerf

"No comment"

And not mentioning lag which he has but saying that foreigners are good

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

March 26 2011 20:25 GMT

#3977

On March 27 2011 05:24 DaCruise wrote:
Hehe,,"a stadium of nerds"

I AM OFFENDED
*typing angry e mail to husky

Fubb

Germany160 Posts

March 26 2011 20:25 GMT

#3978

On March 27 2011 05:24 Mawi wrote:
Aww man i dont want to be a rude guy but i definatley want to see both Minerals/Gas/Supply :/

only works on official (unedited) blizzard maps

SiguR

Canada2039 Posts

March 26 2011 20:25 GMT

#3979

I'm sad. Goody over nestea was the upset i predicted when i first saw the brackets. Now, in the face of all these other upsets, it feels less likely to happen (for mystical reasons, obviously).

You can dooo eeet Gooody.

Fyzar

Netherlands8010 Posts

March 26 2011 20:25 GMT

#3980

On March 27 2011 05:24 jazzbassmatt wrote:

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You say it kind of strongly, but I agree with most of what you're saying. mvp and genius just seemed outplayed to me, and I don't see any reason why europeans would have any less lag than koreans.

Not arguing with your point, but I believe EU>US is less bad than KR>US.