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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 22:54:33
March 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#2501
if it's based on popularity then, where is MARKYO. and UNIDEN! what a backstory on that dude. hey remember that one time when uniden...
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 28 2011 22:57 GMT
#2502
On March 29 2011 07:49 InteGrated wrote:
LOl Relateable players... Im sure the MAJORITY of the viewers dont care whether they're relateable. if we want to see relateable players, we would go to the neighborhood LAN or watch craftcup featuring our IRL friends. I want to see a league that has games featuring players of TSL quality everyday, not just on a weekend basis. that was what this league was supposed to give but it seems like they'd prefer players like Incontrol/vibe/dde over koreans and even players like Minigun that literally has no RTS background but is really fucking amazing and has placed very high in tournaments and EVEN won a tournament with most players from this league will not get a spot

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ROOT_Gaming_Success_Pays_Invitational

if u want any background Info.

sadly pains me to see Minigun here even rooting for the Koreans. if i was him, i'd be pissed. Unless the NASL somehow extended the spots, he wont be in it even when he is more accomplished than Half of that player pool and guess what, HE is young talent and improves every fucking day.
he won a goddamn tournament featuring the best players in NA and he doesnt get in.

What is an accomplishment? oh wait Fruitdealer with his GSL win isnt an accomplishment either at this rate.

and its funny, people calling out Catz for lack of success too. HE WON a tournament. Really that should be a fucking Guideline to get into this league. Winning a tournament, more than what most of this player pool like DDE/Vibe/ etc has done. so dont give me that BS about catz not getting in. He is popular, creative, fun to watch and has had success.

What the FcuKfukckf


I think dde has won more online tournaments than everyone on the list... :D
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caracarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden141 Posts
March 28 2011 23:01 GMT
#2503
On March 29 2011 07:52 MangoTango wrote:
Holy crap, this tourney is stacked to the gills. Can't wait for Tyler v Idra in group 5. And Artosis v uh...anybody, really, in group 1.


I think that Artosis has some aces up in his sleeve, that guys heart beats starcraft, his lunges breathes starcraft and his brain has no sex only starcraft on his mind...

Artosis really wants to win something think he will go far in this one!
Jinro Whaiting!
CheM
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada100 Posts
March 28 2011 23:05 GMT
#2504
I really hope Morrow and Minigun are among the last 5 players to get invited
Kelethius
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada187 Posts
March 28 2011 23:06 GMT
#2505
dde and vibe are fucking excellent players and have done well in tournaments and against top NA players, dde/vibe are some of the best players in NA. Anyone doubting them doesnt follow the NA scene very closely, they deserve to be there.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
March 28 2011 23:14 GMT
#2506
Zenio in group 5 with Idra:D I want to give a great big hug whose choosing the groups here. Group 5 skill and rivalry wise may put it up there as the best group in a tournament so far in sc2.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 28 2011 23:16 GMT
#2507
On March 29 2011 07:54 underdawg wrote:
if it's based on popularity then, where is MARKYO. and UNIDEN! what a backstory on that dude. hey remember that one time when uniden...

TSL.Uniden has obligations with the GSL, so he won't be able to attend NASL.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Antedelerium
Profile Joined June 2010
United States224 Posts
March 28 2011 23:16 GMT
#2508
There are just so many good players that could have been invited, but I think the current list is pretty solid. Definitely a lot of opportunities for rivalries/grudges to come up with...

Tyler - IdrA
Grubby - Moon (zomg wc3)
HayprO - Naniwa

Along with plenty others. The lesser known players (who are still solid in their own right) should provide for enough upsets and craziness to keep viewers on their toes too. You excited? I'm excited
"Isn't it ironic to yell the word silence?" ~B.C.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 28 2011 23:27 GMT
#2509
On March 29 2011 07:49 InteGrated wrote:
LOl Relateable players... Im sure the MAJORITY of the viewers dont care whether they're relateable. if we want to see relateable players, we would go to the neighborhood LAN or watch craftcup featuring our IRL friends. I want to see a league that has games featuring players of TSL quality everyday, not just on a weekend basis. that was what this league was supposed to give but it seems like they'd prefer players like Incontrol/vibe/dde over koreans and even players like Minigun that literally has no RTS background but is really fucking amazing and has placed very high in tournaments and EVEN won a tournament with most players from this league will not get a spot

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ROOT_Gaming_Success_Pays_Invitational

if u want any background Info.

sadly pains me to see Minigun here even rooting for the Koreans. if i was him, i'd be pissed. Unless the NASL somehow extended the spots, he wont be in it even when he is more accomplished than Half of that player pool and guess what, HE is young talent and improves every fucking day.
he won a goddamn tournament featuring the best players in NA and he doesnt get in.

What is an accomplishment? oh wait Fruitdealer with his GSL win isnt an accomplishment either at this rate.

and its funny, people calling out Catz for lack of success too. HE WON a tournament. Really that should be a fucking Guideline to get into this league. Winning a tournament, more than what most of this player pool like DDE/Vibe/ etc has done. so dont give me that BS about catz not getting in. He is popular, creative, fun to watch and has had success.

What the FcuKfukckf

Hahaha there have been many dumb posts in this thread but this one tops most of them.
Its the typical example of the totally uninformed and biased fan boy post.

Stuff like this makes the community look bad.
Off-season = best season
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
March 28 2011 23:28 GMT
#2510
Haypro - Naniwa?

What rivalry there? I think you meant Ret - Naniwa?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
March 28 2011 23:34 GMT
#2511
I've been becoming a big MorroW fan recently so I really hope he gets in with the last 5 picks.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
lucasesper
Profile Joined June 2010
Brazil181 Posts
March 28 2011 23:34 GMT
#2512
They should switch CrunCher to group 5.

Liquibet for the last 5 players: MorroW, MC, July, NaDa, Minigun.
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
March 28 2011 23:38 GMT
#2513
I hope mondragon, nada and boxer are in the last set of players
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
March 28 2011 23:42 GMT
#2514
On March 29 2011 08:34 lucasesper wrote:
They should switch CrunCher to group 5.

Liquibet for the last 5 players: MorroW, MC, July, NaDa, Minigun.


Liquibet for the last 5 players: Morrow, MC, Nada, July, Boxer
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 28 2011 23:42 GMT
#2515
Not a lot of europeans :/ (a lot of 'lesser' NA players there while some top europeans are not in)
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
March 28 2011 23:46 GMT
#2516
On March 29 2011 08:27 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 07:49 InteGrated wrote:
LOl Relateable players... Im sure the MAJORITY of the viewers dont care whether they're relateable. if we want to see relateable players, we would go to the neighborhood LAN or watch craftcup featuring our IRL friends. I want to see a league that has games featuring players of TSL quality everyday, not just on a weekend basis. that was what this league was supposed to give but it seems like they'd prefer players like Incontrol/vibe/dde over koreans and even players like Minigun that literally has no RTS background but is really fucking amazing and has placed very high in tournaments and EVEN won a tournament with most players from this league will not get a spot

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ROOT_Gaming_Success_Pays_Invitational

if u want any background Info.

sadly pains me to see Minigun here even rooting for the Koreans. if i was him, i'd be pissed. Unless the NASL somehow extended the spots, he wont be in it even when he is more accomplished than Half of that player pool and guess what, HE is young talent and improves every fucking day.
he won a goddamn tournament featuring the best players in NA and he doesnt get in.

What is an accomplishment? oh wait Fruitdealer with his GSL win isnt an accomplishment either at this rate.

and its funny, people calling out Catz for lack of success too. HE WON a tournament. Really that should be a fucking Guideline to get into this league. Winning a tournament, more than what most of this player pool like DDE/Vibe/ etc has done. so dont give me that BS about catz not getting in. He is popular, creative, fun to watch and has had success.

What the FcuKfukckf

Hahaha there have been many dumb posts in this thread but this one tops most of them.
Its the typical example of the totally uninformed and biased fan boy post.

Stuff like this makes the community look bad.


He actually has a very good point until he starts fanboying for Minigun.
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
InteGrated
Profile Joined November 2010
United States259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 23:50:31
March 28 2011 23:47 GMT
#2517
On March 29 2011 08:27 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 07:49 InteGrated wrote:
LOl Relateable players... Im sure the MAJORITY of the viewers dont care whether they're relateable. if we want to see relateable players, we would go to the neighborhood LAN or watch craftcup featuring our IRL friends. I want to see a league that has games featuring players of TSL quality everyday, not just on a weekend basis. that was what this league was supposed to give but it seems like they'd prefer players like Incontrol/vibe/dde over koreans and even players like Minigun that literally has no RTS background but is really fucking amazing and has placed very high in tournaments and EVEN won a tournament with most players from this league will not get a spot

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ROOT_Gaming_Success_Pays_Invitational

if u want any background Info.

sadly pains me to see Minigun here even rooting for the Koreans. if i was him, i'd be pissed. Unless the NASL somehow extended the spots, he wont be in it even when he is more accomplished than Half of that player pool and guess what, HE is young talent and improves every fucking day.
he won a goddamn tournament featuring the best players in NA and he doesnt get in.

What is an accomplishment? oh wait Fruitdealer with his GSL win isnt an accomplishment either at this rate.

and its funny, people calling out Catz for lack of success too. HE WON a tournament. Really that should be a fucking Guideline to get into this league. Winning a tournament, more than what most of this player pool like DDE/Vibe/ etc has done. so dont give me that BS about catz not getting in. He is popular, creative, fun to watch and has had success.

What the FcuKfukckf

Hahaha there have been many dumb posts in this thread but this one tops most of them.
Its the typical example of the totally uninformed and biased fan boy post.

Stuff like this makes the community look bad.



back up your statement maybe? all i said was that it just feels that the accomplishment guideline for choosing players got flushed down the toilet. there are too many good players left out and i would be fine if every player in the league was at top calibre and people were left out that way but it isn't that way sadly.

the minigun stuff was mainly just an example. tournament wins and how they place in big tournaments should be the main guideline for choosing players and it isn't so far

and im just backing up catz's criticism for being in the league. he has placed well in several Respectable tourneys like the TSl qualifiers and won the Justin TV invitational featuring an enormous pool of talent.
Sky Net
Profile Joined February 2011
United States134 Posts
March 28 2011 23:47 GMT
#2518
On March 29 2011 07:32 Gatsbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 07:08 p4NDemik wrote:
On March 29 2011 06:44 Minigun wrote:
I think they should have invited more koreans, even if the last 5 are all koreans. I think more than this many applied no?

Koreans who are very doubtful of getting in:

(T)FOX_Lyn (Code-S)
(P)TSL_TesteR (Code-S)
(T)TSL_Clide (Code-S)
(Z)oGsTheWinD (Code-S)
(T)oGsTOP (Code-S)
(P)oGsInCa (Code-S)
(T)oGsSuperNoVa (Code-S)
(T)ST_Virus (Code-S)
(T)ST_Bomber (Code-A)
(Z)SlayerS_Min (Code-A)
(Z)oGsCezanne (currently out of GSL)
(Z)SlayerS_Cella (currently out of GSL)
(P)FOX_SocceR (no GSL experience)
(P)SlayerS_Frozen (no GSL experience)



How do MoMaN, ViBE, dde, Artosis, Incontrol (probably a few others I can't think of right now too) deserve spots over anyone on this list?

I'd love to hear someone try to refute that


Latency. And latency whining. There's enough people going on about how lag is ruining some of the TSL matches. Just having that question up in the air -- not knowing how much of a role lag played in an important match -- takes away from the excitement and enjoyment of the games.

BTW, MoMaN is underrated by people who think he just got in because of his video. He's a strong player. Incontrol is underrated by his haters and overrated by his fans IMO. Don't know anything about how those other names you mentioned play. But just because someone is in GSL doesn't mean they're better than all non-GSL players.
"Never surrender" -Billy Mitchell
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
March 28 2011 23:48 GMT
#2519
On March 29 2011 07:23 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 06:53 RmoteCntrld wrote:
Guess what, for every Korean accepted a foreigner is pushed out. If you're going to sit here and complain that someone from the foreign scene didn't get in just remember that the other person you want in sooo badly, a Korean, most likely bumped that person for his spot.

Lol really? You want a foreigner only tournament.. Sure it sucks if your favourite foreigner didn't get in; but that isn't because a KOREAN took his spot; it's because the other fifty players - Korean or not - was selected.. Don't start a ridiculous flame war :/


/facepalm
Apparently my comment went over the heads of everyone who bothered to respond to it.

Rereading it it does seem foolish to say Koreans are the ones bumping people when in reality it could be anyone. I was just thinking that since it's the NASL it would make sense that Koreans are bumping smaller named foreigners.
Mysticvoid
Profile Joined February 2011
United States39 Posts
March 28 2011 23:50 GMT
#2520
I honestly can't help but post what CatZ posted in the Korea vs the World thread. It's so Perfect and deserves to be seen again.


+ Show Spoiler +
On March 28 2011 21:15 CatZ.root wrote:
lets hope people actually start supporting and respecting international players instead of idolizing and making excuses for whenever koreans lose against forgeiners... this isn't broodwar, the gap is way smaller at the top level.

People in the western hemisphere have brains too, and don't need to just blindly copy builds to get by. It'd be really nice to see people actually wanting to make esports a reality outside of korea, but the way a lot of people think is really discouraging and depressing.

Koreans are not invincible! -YET- why do I say YET? its simple, they are pulling ahead, not far ahead, just ahead. Because of events like GSL they can train a lot and have reachable goals that make it worth while for them to commit to the game. No one seems to complain that there isn't enough forgeiners in GSL, However, everyone likes complain and cry to make sure that Koreans are invited to events like TSL or NASL (NORTH AMERICAN STARLEAGUE).

I am not saying koreans should be just excluded from all international events, but the truth is, the only way to make esports successful is to create a competitive enviroment, where I am scared of playing KiWiKaKi not MC. Need our own 'stars' our own prizes and our own incentives on this side of the world. Need to create an enviroment where people aren't looking to move to korea, but instead move to this side of the map, like IdrA did.

There should be events like this one or WCG or many others where there are opportunities for people all over the world to face each other, but we need to create some sort of separation as an incentive to "foreigners" to train and improve in a similar enviroment as they have setup in korea.

You reading this are a 'foreigner'...but why are you the 'foreigner', is your brain less capable of producing quality strategy, are your hands too fat and slow by nature's default?

ffs lets stop being the foreigners.

Weeeeee
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