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ttomelle
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden243 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6281
On March 21 2011 06:27 MrKn4rz wrote:
[image loading]


hehe thats cute
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6282
On March 21 2011 06:30 Zozo wrote:
WHY? WHY are you people bashing Morrow?

Read Thorzain's interview on how he says that build is completly vulnerable, and it's pretty much auto-win for the zerg. Try to do it against an experienced player that knows terran inside and out and he's gonna roll over you.

There is no way you can recover from that point, lifting is indeed the best option so you don't lose production. Props to Morrow for doing the right thing, this reaction should be as normal as bunkering/wall after seeing a 6pool


Disagree. He could make 3 bunkers, spread them out and would have held that. Would delay his starport a bit but it would hold.
When I think of something else, something will go here
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6283
On March 21 2011 06:34 Mise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 06:32 sanch wrote:
well mcs chances of winning it all just raised by about 8%

So it's 107% now?

Math...how does it work?
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 21:37:43
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6284
On March 21 2011 06:36 raidmaster wrote:
2 rax is a solid pressure build, baneling bust (like Morrow did) is a fucking allin. Artosis said that multiple times during GSL so for gods sake plz stop saying bullshit.


It's not an all-in if you can do that much damage with it and got two bases with a shitton of drones to back it up.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6285
On March 21 2011 06:33 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 06:25 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 21 2011 06:24 Slon20 wrote:
Mouz rippin up liquid

what are you talking about, it's 1-1

Tyler beat Strelok


Hasu beat Huk, MorroW beat Jinro

I love Jinro man, but it's ridiculous to see people being disparaging towards MorroW for baneling busting a CC first build twice. If you've ever watched MorroW you will know that his macro games are typically his main strength; he's incorporated this July-esque aggression to his game because he is smart enough to adapt his play to current trends, and he used it in textbook fashion to punish greedy builds from his opponent today.

I know for some people these upsets spoiled a bit of their fun, but I have to say for me this was an absolutely amazing day of play, incredibly exciting with some great games, can't wait until next weekend!


Agreed
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
RidL
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands39 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6286
On March 21 2011 06:34 Mise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 06:32 sanch wrote:
well mcs chances of winning it all just raised by about 8%

So it's 107% now?


There's a difference to percentage and percentage point.
+8% means x * 1.08
+8 percentage point = x+8

where x is some percentage
Riddle me this ..
Wanny
Profile Joined January 2011
United States23 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6287
Lol at terrans calling morrows play cheesey
YEssssa
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6288
Lags make the games. I should not have betted on ppl playing in KR even if they are better .
Anyways Morrow is like the best ZvT in EU (excluding Ret) so the results are not that surprising.
WriterMaru
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6289
I honestly can't believe people are mad at Morrow for using a strategy he thought would work... What is wrong with you?

You can complain about balance all you want, and we can have a debate over whether there's actually an imbalance, but the players are supposed to do nothing other than try to win. If there's a strategy that would win, imbalanced or not, and Morrow doesn't do it, he's playing badly. Clearly not every zerg is aware of how strong that is, and Morrow deserves a lot of credit for actually knowing what to do.
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6290
On March 21 2011 06:36 Laids wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think the issue is that MorroW baneling busted 3 games in a row...


Vs Terran 2 raxing every game


If Terran are going to do this abusive 2 rax strat every game then they deserve to lose 3 times to baneling busts.

Jinro did 14cc 2 games i dont know what you were watching.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
March 20 2011 21:37 GMT
#6291
On March 21 2011 06:36 Dark-Storm wrote:
lol only 2 people has a perfect Liquidbet now

Where can you see that? I'm a liquibet noob ^^
It appears I have been chosen.
bonedOUT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States140 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6292
I think that morrow simply exploited jinro's build. In the last game, Jinro FE and then went all the way up to starport and thus delayed stim. You need either stim or siege tanks to stop a high economy baneling bust and he didnt have either in time.
Veasel
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden159 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6293
Im both swedish and Terran myself but even soo, Im cheered for Morrow soo hard after game 1.

Morrow changing race and actually show he owns is amazing, not to mention that Idra couldn't win against Jinro and Morrow did is gozu.

That jinro tried to be that greedy against Morrow TWICE made me a little pissed actually.

The games fully vent as they deserved too

Maybe exepct Huk v Hasu lol.

Hasu will lose asap next game, promise
Rest in Piece
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6294
On March 21 2011 06:36 xza wrote:
Its okay guys, all hope is not lost. We still have MVP and MC


No one can get past MC. You heard it here first.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6295
On March 21 2011 06:31 raidmaster wrote:
I've lost my respect to Morrow after those games. He will end up like JulyZerg.

Get a clue
Morrow scouted CC first on both maps before he ever put down the baneling nest. He countered Jinros build, he wasn't doing blind all-ins
xxxxxxb
Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6296
On March 21 2011 06:32 Laids wrote:
Terran 2 raxes to victory = " Amazing play "
Zerg baneling busts= "OMG SUCH A ONE TRICK PONY"


Okay guys.


Of course.

Hatch first: greedy, should be punished.
cc first: impresive piece of masterful never known to man strategy; do not disturb, please.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6297
On March 21 2011 06:32 Makica wrote:
Nah Jinro messed this up. No excuse not to be better prepared to for a baneling bust after he lost game 1 the way he did. He literally changed nothing except add a super late bunker that didn't do anything. IMO should have built bunkers earlier and more than 1. You can sell them back so I don't know why he didn't. Prevents you from huge loss.


Even if you can sell them you still freeze money that could for instance be SCVs that bring you more money. That is why pros don't randomly build bunkers :p

I felt Jinro's builds in both game 1 and 3 were worse than what we see from Jinro in the GSL. They were both extremely passive, and the walls made it hard to for instance push out with 3 marines and 1 helion to scout/harass. Maybe the maps force these builds? I would have loved a single banshee in game three...
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6298
I have just lost all of my respect for ______ because of
[ ] 2 rax push with SCVs
[ ] Forcefields
[ ] Banelings
More GGs, more skill
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6299
Well played MorroW and well done for punishing a very greedy build from the mighty Jinro. Good luck in the next round
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
March 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#6300
cant believe i didnt know about the brackets; i thought everyone was talking about LiquidBets
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