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daffodil
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia109 Posts
March 20 2011 09:27 GMT
#6001
this tournament is ridiculous. so stacked in every matchup.

RIDIC!
Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
March 20 2011 09:31 GMT
#6002
I've had nothing but epic, epic excitement for this tournament. I have to admit though, the lag issue is really killing it for me.

I cannot enjoy a game knowing that it isn't completely fair for both players, or that they can't play their best.

For everyone saying Boxer played "boring," it looks to me like he was playing macro only on purpose because the lag killed his confidence in microing, and that makes me not even want to watch the game
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 09:46:49
March 20 2011 09:33 GMT
#6003
On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
[korean netizen comments]

Thanks for those, but wow they are obnoxious. Now I'm definitely cheering for any non-korean.

e: err, obviously with the cave-at that I'm always cheering for boxer and nada
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
March 20 2011 09:44 GMT
#6004
On March 20 2011 18:33 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
[korean netizen comments]

Thanks for those, but wow they are obnoxious. Now I'm definitely cheering for any non-korean.


Yeah seriously, didn't really expect that kind of attitude from the korean audience, granted these comments doesn't represent the entire korean audience, but still.
We make signature, then defense it.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 09:49:38
March 20 2011 09:46 GMT
#6005
On March 20 2011 18:33 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
[korean netizen comments]

Thanks for those, but wow they are obnoxious. Now I'm definitely cheering for any non-korean.


To be fair I've seen about as bad comments in gsl threads here on TL throughout the seasons. Just don't let them bother you. (People are basically the same everywhere)
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
March 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#6006
On March 20 2011 18:33 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
[korean netizen comments]

Thanks for those, but wow they are obnoxious. Now I'm definitely cheering for any non-korean.

Gotta agree with that, a far cry from the honourable delightful people they make themselves out to be. Glad its only a vocal minority.
Greggor
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden119 Posts
March 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#6007
On March 20 2011 18:31 Carl_Sagan wrote:
I've had nothing but epic, epic excitement for this tournament. I have to admit though, the lag issue is really killing it for me.

I cannot enjoy a game knowing that it isn't completely fair for both players, or that they can't play their best.

For everyone saying Boxer played "boring," it looks to me like he was playing macro only on purpose because the lag killed his confidence in microing, and that makes me not even want to watch the game


At least one of the games was played on the orean server, so lag shouldnt have been an issue there.
what ?
zeMoose
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland51 Posts
March 20 2011 10:28 GMT
#6008
On March 20 2011 18:50 Greggor wrote:
At least one of the games was played on the orean server, so lag shouldnt have been an issue there.


No, the matches between European players and Koreans are all played on NA servers.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 10:30:14
March 20 2011 10:28 GMT
#6009
Korean netizens seem to be very cocky and annoying tbh. The progamers themselves seem a lot more nice towards foreigners but now I kinda want them to lose just so korean netizens would shut up.


On March 20 2011 16:04 Reasonable wrote:
What region are they playing on? Lag is a bitch. I play on US from EU and lag absolutely owns my baneling micro. Mutas are fine, but banelings just die to proper marine micro. I often regret my decision to buy a US copy.


I have zero lag/delay on NA from EU. Same for all my friends :o
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
March 20 2011 10:31 GMT
#6010
On March 20 2011 13:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 13:13 Vonwarr wrote:
how about this: ^Chill is a Faggot, whiney voiced pothead - D+ iccup player, and bonafied Troll with no Life and really sucks at Commentating SC?^ Congrats on your 1 fan "Frank" and the guy who just said he didnt like one of the casters... news flash: he meant YOU so 1-2?? ... GG no RE , kk thx bai -From Tasteless.

mod edit: bye galacticus.


more gold has been struck.lol

Galacticus = Combat-Ex??
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
March 20 2011 10:31 GMT
#6011
do koreans not know EU players have the same disadvantage? do they not know the servers are switched each game? Someone who can write Korean should tell them.
gamefan15
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
March 20 2011 10:33 GMT
#6012
On March 20 2011 18:50 Greggor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 18:31 Carl_Sagan wrote:
I've had nothing but epic, epic excitement for this tournament. I have to admit though, the lag issue is really killing it for me.

I cannot enjoy a game knowing that it isn't completely fair for both players, or that they can't play their best.

For everyone saying Boxer played "boring," it looks to me like he was playing macro only on purpose because the lag killed his confidence in microing, and that makes me not even want to watch the game


At least one of the games was played on the orean server, so lag shouldnt have been an issue there.


one admin wrote yesterday in the thread (nazgul if I recall correctly) that all games were played on the NA server and Idra wrote that playing from KR on the NA server is twice the delay than playing from NA on the EU server.

and I guess thats not even taking the earthquake in japan circumstances into account if thats true that it had an impact on the korean connections.

not to take anything away from thorzain but yeah apparently this wasnt the best circumstances for FD and offline he would have probably shown atleast a better fight. but oh well "technology the vehicle of esports" as tasteless would say it, i guess.
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
March 20 2011 10:38 GMT
#6013
Koreans needs to be quiet with their "is this really progaming?" after a 2-3 map day for their players.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 10:42:34
March 20 2011 10:41 GMT
#6014
To be fair, if they were talking about the Boxer vs Nightend match, they're kinda right. That was a really uninteresting series, with lots of errors on both sides. They are being equally critical of both the foreigners and the Koreans that played yesterday.

I don't think the Korean comments are too harsh, they're mostly complaining about lag (they got a point) bashing Boxer's and Fuitdealer's play (again, got a point) and saying Nightend played badly (again, I personally agree). I read harsher comments in the LR threads every single day of GSL, both Code S and definitely Code A.
silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
March 20 2011 10:55 GMT
#6015
On March 20 2011 19:41 Mikau wrote:
To be fair, if they were talking about the Boxer vs Nightend match, they're kinda right. That was a really uninteresting series, with lots of errors on both sides. They are being equally critical of both the foreigners and the Koreans that played yesterday.

I don't think the Korean comments are too harsh, they're mostly complaining about lag (they got a point) bashing Boxer's and Fuitdealer's play (again, got a point) and saying Nightend played badly (again, I personally agree). I read harsher comments in the LR threads every single day of GSL, both Code S and definitely Code A.


Agreed. There are worse comments here on TL. Let's stop pretending some trolls on a message board represent the Korean netizens.
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
March 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#6016
Just watched the VODs.

First, QQ 2/4 on bracket prediction. Didn't think Fruitdealer would fall in the first round and even more shocked Boxer didn't.

Having said that the Boxer vs. Nightend games were pretty darn awful. All three games turned into maxed army slugfests with very little to distinguish the players' actual skill. That said game 2 I really feel like Boxer could've *easily* won the game with the marauders in the beginning if he just targeted the stalkers. I was in so much shock when kept letting his marauders get picked away.

The best match was Fenix vs. Sen, really liked both players style, only wish that Fenix had of controlled his tanks better because those battles tended to be more one-sided than they would've been otherwise IMO.

Looking forward to day 2, but not as epic a start to the TSL3 as I had wished.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
March 20 2011 11:01 GMT
#6017
Just like to say how much I appreciate all the time and effort TL has put into the TSLs, it's been a while since TSL2 but really last night just proved theyre my favorite tournaments.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
March 20 2011 11:05 GMT
#6018
On March 20 2011 19:41 Mikau wrote:
To be fair, if they were talking about the Boxer vs Nightend match, they're kinda right. That was a really uninteresting series, with lots of errors on both sides. They are being equally critical of both the foreigners and the Koreans that played yesterday.

I don't think the Korean comments are too harsh, they're mostly complaining about lag (they got a point) bashing Boxer's and Fuitdealer's play (again, got a point) and saying Nightend played badly (again, I personally agree). I read harsher comments in the LR threads every single day of GSL, both Code S and definitely Code A.


This, the Koreans don't bash on the foreing community they bash on all the games that have been played. Especially Fruitdealer and Boxer, where do all of you read anything related to "Koreans > Foreigners"? Yes they talk down onto the level of play of the foreigners, but even more so do they critizise the performance of Fruitdealer and Boxer.

Although I don't agree in general, the games of Boxer vs Nightend were in fact boring.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 20 2011 11:05 GMT
#6019
On March 20 2011 19:58 Elwar wrote:
Just watched the VODs.

First, QQ 2/4 on bracket prediction. Didn't think Fruitdealer would fall in the first round and even more shocked Boxer didn't.

Having said that the Boxer vs. Nightend games were pretty darn awful. All three games turned into maxed army slugfests with very little to distinguish the players' actual skill. That said game 2 I really feel like Boxer could've *easily* won the game with the marauders in the beginning if he just targeted the stalkers. I was in so much shock when kept letting his marauders get picked away.

The best match was Fenix vs. Sen, really liked both players style, only wish that Fenix had of controlled his tanks better because those battles tended to be more one-sided than they would've been otherwise IMO.

Looking forward to day 2, but not as epic a start to the TSL3 as I had wished.


It was to be expected to be fair

I'm kind of disappointed the first 3 korean/chinese invites in this tournament are also the worst ones. But at least MC and Jinro will be tonight and we'll see some incredible Korean play!
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
March 20 2011 11:10 GMT
#6020
All in all I have the feeling people getting a little bit too spoiled. I mean cmon, not everyone can play like MC?

And while I think it's justified to critizise players for making mistakes, this shouldn't be done implying that so many others could do so much better.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
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