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KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
March 20 2011 00:56 GMT
#5841
On March 20 2011 09:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On March 20 2011 09:45 RmoteCntrld wrote:
On March 20 2011 09:21 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
I hope Tyler keeps crushing through. I would love to see him take it all.


Its too bad he'll have to play MC so soon, that guy seems unbeatable. Hopefully Tyler will ruin my bracket though.


Is MC's PvP as good as his PvZ and PvT?

If I remember correctly, he hasn't lost a single PvP game in GSL until now.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
March 20 2011 00:58 GMT
#5842
On March 20 2011 09:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On March 20 2011 09:45 RmoteCntrld wrote:
On March 20 2011 09:21 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
I hope Tyler keeps crushing through. I would love to see him take it all.


Its too bad he'll have to play MC so soon, that guy seems unbeatable. Hopefully Tyler will ruin my bracket though.


Is MC's PvP as good as his PvZ and PvT?


Probably better, actually.

Check TLPD. 84% winrate, 1 loss in the last 10 PvPs.
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ambientmf
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada77 Posts
March 20 2011 01:00 GMT
#5843
On March 20 2011 09:31 Nagano wrote:
VODS or replays coming soon? :/

silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
March 20 2011 01:02 GMT
#5844
On March 20 2011 09:51 Redox wrote:
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On March 20 2011 09:27 vdale wrote:
Again people only talk about lag, if a Korean loses a game.

I hope this won't be the case in NASL.

Of course they will. Which is one of the main problems with people playing from Korea.

I play on both the Korean and US server.. and I do notice a slight lag when playing on the US. I'm no pro.. so while I don't think it effects me much I'm sure it may be different for pro players. I do, on occasion experience huge lag spikes which really mess up my builds >.<.. that being said I don't think FD lost due to the lag.. I hope he didn't take his opponent lighlty and go drinking before the match ㅠㅠ .
Shooks
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia256 Posts
March 20 2011 01:04 GMT
#5845
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
March 20 2011 01:16 GMT
#5846
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them


isn't 4gate the metagame in PvP currently in Korea? I thought the current mentality was that if you dont 4gate, you lose. At least that what i remember in a Haypro interview article awhile ago
FrostyTreats
Profile Joined January 2011
United States355 Posts
March 20 2011 01:18 GMT
#5847
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them

cept tyler has never played a person of MC's level...
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 20 2011 01:19 GMT
#5848
On March 20 2011 10:16 NonConGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them


isn't 4gate the metagame in PvP currently in Korea? I thought the current mentality was that if you dont 4gate, you lose. At least that what i remember in a Haypro interview article awhile ago


Yeah, that's pretty much what you hear from everywhere about korean PvP, MC is not really to blame when 4gating, it's probably the safest thing to do as long as you have proper unit control...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
March 20 2011 01:21 GMT
#5849
Good job thorzain and nightend, you guys really showed those Koreans that foreigners are no pushovers.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
March 20 2011 01:23 GMT
#5850
On March 20 2011 08:36 IdrA wrote:
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On March 20 2011 08:33 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On March 20 2011 07:26 DystopiaX wrote:
On March 20 2011 07:24 decaf wrote:
FD had noticeable lag, no need to talk about that.
But he also didn't play well at all. His macro was.. garbage to say the least. I can macro better than that. I dunno what' sup with him, isn't he playing anymore?

He hosted one of the games so lag can't be completely blamed for his losses.


all games were on NA.

so the question is EU -> NA latency vs KR -> NA latency and it seems like the latency and the recent earthquake might have a part as mentioned by boxer's gf

kr to na vs na to eu is at least twice as much delay for kr/na


hmmm that sucks. Is there a reason why TSL doesn't alternate btwn EU/KR servers like they do for NA/KR games instead of proxying the NA server? It seems one player will always have an advantage in this case.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 20 2011 01:25 GMT
#5851
On March 20 2011 10:18 FrostyTreats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them

cept tyler has never played a person of MC's level...


This. It's alot easier for someone to look strong when they're playing lower tier players.
The Notorious Winkles
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
March 20 2011 01:27 GMT
#5852
On March 20 2011 10:23 JoeSchmoe wrote:
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On March 20 2011 08:36 IdrA wrote:
On March 20 2011 08:33 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On March 20 2011 07:26 DystopiaX wrote:
On March 20 2011 07:24 decaf wrote:
FD had noticeable lag, no need to talk about that.
But he also didn't play well at all. His macro was.. garbage to say the least. I can macro better than that. I dunno what' sup with him, isn't he playing anymore?

He hosted one of the games so lag can't be completely blamed for his losses.


all games were on NA.

so the question is EU -> NA latency vs KR -> NA latency and it seems like the latency and the recent earthquake might have a part as mentioned by boxer's gf

kr to na vs na to eu is at least twice as much delay for kr/na


hmmm that sucks. Is there a reason why TSL doesn't alternate btwn EU/KR servers like they do for NA/KR games instead of proxying the NA server? It seems one player will always have an advantage in this case.


KR/EU is impossible to play with lag
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
March 20 2011 01:28 GMT
#5853
On March 20 2011 09:40 xianglongfa wrote:
I think people need to understand that significant lag will negatively impact decision-making, and the two aren't completely independent. It's not like one can play perfectly as if there's no lag and that automatically translates to the most optimal play with lag. It's quite saddening that Korean players have to deal with this difficult issue.

I think we should wait and see what the people who actually know anything about this, eg. the players or perhaps the TL staff, have to say, if they have anything, before we go jumping to conclusions about lag. Remember, it is very possible that Fruitdealer simply got outplayed and that Boxer just was the worse player in his Bo3.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#5854
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them


MC makes any opponent look horrible.
OFCORPSE
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden355 Posts
March 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#5855
VODs please!!! I missed it!!!
Liquor saved me from sports.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
March 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#5856
On March 20 2011 10:19 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 10:16 NonConGuy wrote:
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them


isn't 4gate the metagame in PvP currently in Korea? I thought the current mentality was that if you dont 4gate, you lose. At least that what i remember in a Haypro interview article awhile ago


Yeah, that's pretty much what you hear from everywhere about korean PvP, MC is not really to blame when 4gating, it's probably the safest thing to do as long as you have proper unit control...


Yeah I mean even Trickster 4 gated in the last GSL and he's known for not using it. At the top levels in Korea it really does seem like one of if not the only viable strategy in PvP.
Gegenschein
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada107 Posts
March 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#5857
On March 20 2011 10:31 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them


MC makes any opponent look horrible.

Except for Jinro : D
You and whose 200/200 fully upgraded army?
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
March 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#5858
ETA on VODs would be nice, because F5 is boring.
nospeech
Syphon8
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada298 Posts
March 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#5859
On March 20 2011 10:18 FrostyTreats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them

cept tyler has never played a person of MC's level...


Tyler beat Jinro, like 2 days ago.
',:/
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#5860
On March 20 2011 10:38 Syphon8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 10:18 FrostyTreats wrote:
On March 20 2011 10:04 Shooks wrote:
A lot of MCs PvP games were pretty crappy though, he basically just 4 gated all his wins and the opponent was being to greedy. Tyler definitely won't make the same mistake as them

cept tyler has never played a person of MC's level...


Tyler beat Jinro, like 2 days ago.


Jinro's TvP is bad. MC's PvP is not bad.
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