Although Boxer played game 3 very well with what little he had,he wasted a lot of units trying to kill hatcheries.For example he keeps sending like 6 rines each time to try and snipe the hatcheries when it would be probably better to kill the drones,in the end,the rines get cleaned up and nothing was done. ALso,.Boxer always mass stimmed his rines,which made rines ineffective vs the mass muta cloud during the actual battle.

Sein

United States1811 Posts

March 15 2011 15:20 GMT

#1562

On March 15 2011 23:32 Heimatloser wrote:
legend 1 "boxer": Out of main tournament
legend 2 "nada": Stays Code S with ease
legend 3 "july": First former bw legend to be a GSL Finalist

Nada is 26 and July is 24. They're younger than a lot of people think they are.

Boxer is 30, has a wife and is managing a team. It would be hard for anyone to stay in top shape under those circumstances.

AxionSteel

United States7754 Posts

March 15 2011 15:36 GMT

#1563

Was totally gutting to see BoxeR eliminated in such an epic game, I kept clutching at hope that there'd be a fairytale come from behind win, but at least he went down in style!

I wonder what this will do for his motivation for Starcraft 2, will it motivate him even more to get back to Code S? I hope so. He is a pretty important figure for the Korean sc2 scene.

Markwerf

Netherlands3728 Posts

March 15 2011 15:47 GMT

#1564

was about time boxer went out. Sure it's a great icon and probably good for e-sports in general but his play has been below quality a long time compared to the rest.
Icons are great for the sport but they only deserver the top level if they are so, boxer isn't atm. Not to say he can't come back as I don't believe in the age restriction that much but he will have to train harder.

bearhug

United States999 Posts

March 15 2011 16:01 GMT

#1565

On March 15 2011 20:22 DarthXX wrote:
The main difference between this mech game and MKPs one is like, boxer is refusing to make tanks for some reason ><

That's because Boxer had 5 factories, while MKP had 7. Two more factories give you a lot of tanks.
Also, MKP was far ahead in economy during that game. So he can afford to make more thors and tanks.

Markwerf

Netherlands3728 Posts

March 15 2011 16:12 GMT

#1566

On March 15 2011 21:54 sqrt wrote:

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He faced an ultimatum in BW - became a coach or get out, he moved to SC2 (old interview, can't find a link). He wants to play, the man has passion.

I don't know if boxer has what it takes to be a good coach actually. He doesn't seem to be strategically good in sc2. I'm not sure if his ton of experience alone is enough for him to be a good coach.

SiguR

Canada2039 Posts

March 15 2011 16:15 GMT

#1567

Perhaps a bit frustrating that boxer's sc2 future can be so easily affected by one bo3, but I guess that's the way it goes.

Ideally this will encourage him to practice hard for TSL3 or maybe even turn some attention to NASL, dreamhack or MLG.

A man can dream, can't he?

MrCon

France29748 Posts

March 15 2011 16:24 GMT

#1568

Boxer needed to target those drones instead of the hatchs

Deekin[

Serbia1713 Posts

March 15 2011 16:32 GMT

#1569

Was it only me or was tastosis really bad today? I just watched the first game of Fruitdealer vs Virus.

They just pretty much talked bullshit throughout the whole game. They didnt see or mention anything abt that nice kill on the SCV that fruitdealer did on the rightmost side expansion with the backdoor zerglings. And they mentioned the third Hatchery so late. Are they even looking at the game? I think they should stop talking bs all the time and look at the friggin game instead. Times like these I wonder why they are even casting these games that are supposed to be of the highest level in the world...

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44311 Posts

March 15 2011 16:32 GMT

#1570

On March 16 2011 00:20 Sein wrote:

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Very good points. I think everyone would love to see Boxer somehow blow away the SC2 scene, but I think it's realistic to say that that's not going to happen

Kazzabiss

1006 Posts

March 15 2011 16:36 GMT

#1571

On March 15 2011 21:24 tyCe wrote:

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MKP has far worse decision-making/tactical nous than BoxeR. MKP's games sometimes resemble shoving square blocks into a round hole - only that his marine splits make it slightly likelier.

Picking the wrong build order is not decision making (even though that may sound very ironic). As many people have said MKP has some of the best decision-making, his preperation maybe bad though (Poorly planed build orders)

ChApFoU

France2982 Posts

March 15 2011 16:42 GMT

#1572

Boxer seems to carry his BW strenghts and weaknesses to SC2 : insane micro, strong decision making, great harass, poor macro and general economy management.

Epic epic 3rd game though, but I guess I'm being mr Obvious here

MrMotionPicture

United States4327 Posts

March 15 2011 16:44 GMT

#1573

No Boxer! :[
I just hope he owns up on all of the Code A guys...

KevinIX

United States2472 Posts

March 15 2011 16:48 GMT

#1574

Can't believe Ace lost.

EpicQQ

Canada154 Posts

March 15 2011 16:50 GMT

#1575

I guess Ace is like the Daigo of Sc2/Korea, rip up the foreign scene, but proceed to lose to their fellow (better) countrymen. :<

kvn4444

1510 Posts

March 15 2011 16:52 GMT

#1576

last game of boxer/zenio was great, tough break for him though dropping to code A. Going to be a tough rode back with the rising level of code A, gl to boxer though.

PartyBiscuit

Canada4525 Posts

March 15 2011 16:55 GMT

#1577

I'm just going to come out and say it, Boxer is like a poor man's MarineKing (oh the irony), at least in SC2. Both have huge levels of style and creativity (MKP does do custom builds as well) that often open big and fail to deliver, both have very strong micro (but MKP has also shown strong macro), both tend to lean toward aggression, and both have propensity to open cheesy.

machination

United States175 Posts

March 15 2011 16:55 GMT

#1578

On March 16 2011 01:50 EpicQQ wrote:
I guess Ace is like the Daigo of Sc2/Korea, rip up the foreign scene, but proceed to lose to their fellow (better) countrymen. :<

"rip up" doesn't do justice to parrying a full chun li special with 1 hp

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

March 15 2011 17:04 GMT

#1579

Nooooo! Ace and Boxer both going down?! While I got the exact results I wanted yesterday... these are the exact results I didn't want today.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

March 15 2011 17:06 GMT

#1580

I'm sad to see Boxer go down, but he was honestly never really code S material. He got there off a TvT run in season 2, and then managed to take a few games off people in season 4. Never saw anything spectacular from him.
On another note, I'm really suprised Virus got in over Ace