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This thread is for discussing the games, not crying about balance. Thanks.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1321
Ret's play and unit control was pretty disappointing suiciding broods against marines, not building spine crawlers at his expansions bases, sitting on his hands with a max army. if Ret was more aggressive he would have won that game.
Buff345
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1322
I have to say, I think with all those zerglings he could of had a few more banelings. With 5 bases I'm assuming he had the gas for it. Also, if a few brood lords had been out sooner that might have looked different. I dunno
Twitches
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada365 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1323
On February 28 2011 20:09 Arceus wrote:
funny how Artosis said that Ret outclasses jjob after a random mutas harrassment and seconds later he lost so badly


Well, Ret was outclassing him in macro. I think he had like 60 food on him or something ridiculous.
Gravity is just a feeble plot.
tealc
Profile Joined October 2010
109 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1324
I wish gsl would release replays because I have no idea what just happened.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1325
On February 28 2011 20:09 sleepingdog wrote:
I gotta say, I really didn't expect Ret to go out of Code A that quickly. Moonglade's invite was kinda questionable in the first place (he is a "good" player but no "great" one yet) and Haypro sadly tends to choke under pressure, but I've expected way more from Ret. His opponent played well but didn't do anything magic.

He probably could have taken out a lot of players in Code A, but this terran really impressed me. Especially his multi-tasking in the first game, I expect him to move in to code S tbh.
It appears I have been chosen.
terransarelame
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore2 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1326
Surprise surprise, better zerg plays a lesser terran with decent skill and guess what? You need to be so much better than the terran in order to win. Sc2 is so awesome.

User was banned for this post.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 11:11:28
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1327
On February 28 2011 20:06 Zerokaiser wrote:
If there's anything that the GSTL and this GSL has taught us, it's that Terran is horrible in the lategame.

Right?

Haha. And huge maps also mean zerg autowin.

Boxer's protege is pretty awesome though I gotta say.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1328
On February 28 2011 20:08 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 20:05 labbe wrote:
Ret totally outclassing MMA, loses anyway...


How did he outclass him in any way you simpleton. He got flattened...

Ret got totally outclassed the first game, but competed very well in the second one. He lost it in the last 3 min or so with poor battle control.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1329
On February 28 2011 20:09 Vorlik wrote:
the observer sucks



Uh, what? He misses almost nothing...
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1330
I understood how Ret kind of fell apart the first game, not deflecting the harass well. The second game he got advantage after advantage and got absolutely massacred. What the fuck...
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#1331
On February 28 2011 20:07 CryMeAReaper wrote:
why oh why does everyone start talking balance as soon as a zerg loses? have you ever stopped and wondered about other factors which may have led him to lose? like, having no banelings? or having like a 80% ling army vs 8 tanks or something? seriously, blind imba-cries are so frustrating to see all the time.


Banelings vs 10+ tanks? What game are you playing.
He needed a combo of infestors and broodlords but the terran hit him just as the broodlords were morphing. Also microing vs tanks/marine is so hard ...
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1332
On February 28 2011 20:07 Namu wrote:
Ret played pretty terrible that game.. sad to see him get knocked out so early
anyways, not sure why you guys are whining about balance in a GSL thread..


How the hell he played terrible?

Some people really have no idea what they are talking about.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1333
On February 28 2011 20:08 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 20:07 CryMeAReaper wrote:
why oh why does everyone start talking balance as soon as a zerg loses? have you ever stopped and wondered about other factors which may have led him to lose? like, having no banelings? or having like a 80% ling army vs 8 tanks or something? seriously, blind imba-cries are so frustrating to see all the time.


this is just as stupid. having banes vs 8 tanks is game over banelings. blind imba cries is annoying, blind knowledge posts too.


that wasnt my point though, was just making a random example. my point is that people just start crying imbalance as soon as their favorite player loses or w/e, instead of objectively looking at the game, and trying to find flaws in the losing players play.

im not trying to suggest what made ret lose, im very likely not skilled enough to give a correct analysis, i can see why my post came off that way tho ^^
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flexy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States182 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1334
Ret had an amazing eco, but his army composition wasnt very good. I could easily make 200 SCVs and have 5 bases.. but if I get pushed by a huge army, im probably not gonna be able to hold it even if I have 4 extra bases..
o_o
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1335
Game 1 on Scrap Station
TSL_Killer/SangHo at top
oGsjookTo at right
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 11:12:47
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1336
Now I understand why July baneling busts every game vs Terran. A coinflip is better than going into a late-game battle vs marine/tank/thor from a solid Terran that knows how to macro, split properly and do multi-pronged drops at the same time. I have yet to seen a SINGLE ZvT win in GSL vs a late game macro battle against a strong macro Terran, not even Nestea or Idra.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1337
On February 28 2011 20:05 drewstylz wrote:
broods getting caught. ret unable to deal with MMA's multitasking. muta/ling not the unit composition for mass tanks/marines...

Muta/ling/bling is the right way to hold off tank/marine mid-game, but in the long term you're going to need broods as well. Problem was ret's broods were slow coming out and he didn't keep his support units alive. If he'd actually had corruptors out ready to morph when his greater spire finished, both games could have gone very differently.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1338
man i'm so sad. i was hoping for ret so hard. he just should get back to europe and win tournaments... or wait for the new patch...
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1339
Going muta-ling, he never got a big scary ball of mutas even off 4+ base. At most he had 16 or so. It wasn't the best play from Ret. He didn't have larva after he lost his army.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 11:12:03
February 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#1340
I agreed that Ret didnt do the best with his zerglings, there was just no need for that big of a pack to harass. Few more banglings above the ramp would've gave him time for the broodlord to morph.

Not to mention ret was sitting on pile of resources when he lost.
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