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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 24 2011 14:20 GMT
#3081
On February 24 2011 22:41 Durp wrote:
Leave your QQ for your uninformed strategy forum posts.


What did we do so wrong to thus get punished we strategy posters?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 24 2011 14:20 GMT
#3082
So while this night didn't have the most exciting games (although seeing both Jinro and Nada play rock solid was pretty cool) I have to say I enjoyed the casting tonight more so than any other night. I spent almost the entire time laughing, and I really appreciated that.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
SicknO
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden5 Posts
February 24 2011 14:21 GMT
#3083
On February 24 2011 23:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 22:45 SicknO wrote:
Anyone knows what the techno/rave-song they played after the last game is called?


Some new version of "Holding out for a Hero".


You are definetly not thinking about the right song.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 24 2011 14:22 GMT
#3084
On February 24 2011 22:48 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
I dont get why artosis is saying there's no Mothership build at all, we saw a decent amount of mothership play with Squirtle against MVP on GSTL, he tried to pull the Archon toilet and vortex is awesome on tanks since the tanks come out unsieged after the vortex. Maybe he meant like a Mothership "rush" build?


The first Mothership in the Squirtle vs MVP game was like 25 minutes in. HongUn's was about 11. Squirtle's was a Tech-incorporation after he hit 4 bases. HongUn went for a Mothership at the first possible opportunity. If you use Carriers, BCs, Ultralisks or Broodlords after 20 minutes, we don't say they were are part of your "Build"; they were a Tech option available. Going right from a 1-1-1 Build into a Cloaked Banshee is "Banshee Build". Getting them 15+ minutes into the game, is just using a Tech option. That's what he means.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
February 24 2011 14:23 GMT
#3085
On February 24 2011 22:47 DuckSausage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 22:41 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 24 2011 22:40 DuckSausage wrote:
These 1st / 2nd place games are such bull****.

Could it have been more obvious that HongUn wanted to throw the game? Mis-microing phoenixes everywhere, gimmicky tactics, etc.



Stop crying. HongUn gave us a fun game, and yeah, he probably threw it to avoid a team kill. God forbid we see some lulzy stuff in the GSL when not too much is on the line.


God forbid we actually see some competitive play between two players who want to win. Isn't that what this tournament is all about?

No. Since it's also televised, it's also about entertainment. I think we got that in spades tonight.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Widar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 14:27:02
February 24 2011 14:26 GMT
#3086
Okay, for how long has the new GSL season been going on?

First time cheking TL in a few weeks cuz of school
(forbade myself from doing anything but studying, even uninstalled SC2)

And how much have I missed? Anyone feel like summerizing it?

And how could i miss todays games, when i had the day off (all teachers got sick at the same day)
Fake it till you make it
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
February 24 2011 14:27 GMT
#3087
On February 24 2011 22:47 DuckSausage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 22:41 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 24 2011 22:40 DuckSausage wrote:
These 1st / 2nd place games are such bull****.

Could it have been more obvious that HongUn wanted to throw the game? Mis-microing phoenixes everywhere, gimmicky tactics, etc.



Stop crying. HongUn gave us a fun game, and yeah, he probably threw it to avoid a team kill. God forbid we see some lulzy stuff in the GSL when not too much is on the line.


God forbid we actually see some competitive play between two players who want to win. Isn't that what this tournament is all about?

It doesn't seem right if players are losing their games on purpose. I realize that the context might be different from, say, something like the BW match-fixing scandals last year, but when players lose games on purpose, isn't that considered gaming the system / unfair / cheating?


He definitely threw the match, but to even mention the Brood War match fixing is uncalled for. These players didn't both choose the winner and loser beforehand. Neither of them bet for themselves to lose, and there's nothing really secret about it.

It's common place and fair game in tournaments. I've been in tournament events for card games where I was guaranteed to advance to the top 8 (finals-ish situation), but my friend was against me and wouldn't be in the running unless he won our match. I conceded so he could advance, even though I really beat him in our best of 3.


Additionally, from the interview...

HongUn : Check is my teammate and we know each other well so I want to face Jinro


Probably worse than team killing is having to keep your strategies secret from someone who you live with, and I imagine that would be annoying and divide the team house into two where people can't help both of you because that would mean giving away all of your preparations. In every sense, it was the right choice for HungUn to lose, unless Prime was so unconfident that they thought it would be better to have someone in the Ro8 than a chance to have two people in the Ro8.
♥
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
February 24 2011 14:29 GMT
#3088
I don't think it's so bad to do such things. I wouldn't even say Hongun threw the match, he made some crazy stuff but he tried to make it work.
These things are quite common even in professional sports, when a team is already through the group stage they often field the reserve players for the last match. That doesn't mean they throw the game, they just don't want to overextend themselves.
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
February 24 2011 14:30 GMT
#3089
On February 24 2011 23:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Before this gets too far off into la-la land about what happened: "Match-Fixing" specifically means doing something in a competitive sport so *betters* can profit from knowing what will happen before it does.

What HongUn was doing was Showmanship. He has competitive reasons to hide his main-builds that he's likely to use later. Even Nada went for an older, extremely safe TvP build, which also hides what he might do later. HongUn just took it up a step and threw out a Mothership build he had in his pocket. If Nada hadn't attacked when he did, it might have actually worked, too, lol.


Nada did the same on last GSL against Idra when they were both qualified for the next round doin that one base Thor Rush all in. And even so, losing to be strategically placed in a specific group happens in every sport with group qualification setup. Can't believe people are compairing that to cheating. =(
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 24 2011 14:35 GMT
#3090
I missed the Jinro game, god damn it, sometimes I just feel like tearing this whole place down

Im spamming F5 for VOD's on the GOM-site
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 24 2011 14:35 GMT
#3091
On February 24 2011 23:26 Widar wrote:
Okay, for how long has the new GSL season been going on?

First time cheking TL in a few weeks cuz of school
(forbade myself from doing anything but studying, even uninstalled SC2)

And how much have I missed? Anyone feel like summerizing it?

And how could i miss todays games, when i had the day off (all teachers got sick at the same day)


It started this week
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 14:49:57
February 24 2011 14:49 GMT
#3092
Noooo HongUnPrime that noob shouldn't have advanced oGsTOP
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
SicknO
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden5 Posts
February 24 2011 15:20 GMT
#3093
If you watch the VOD of the last game in group D. Whats the song called that starts 14.55 into the clip?
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
February 24 2011 15:25 GMT
#3094
Just catching the vods now, hilarious Artosis reaction to Polt lol.
the farm ends here
Somnolence
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania127 Posts
February 24 2011 15:53 GMT
#3095
On February 24 2011 23:49 Djagulingu wrote:
Noooo HongUnPrime that noob shouldn't have advanced oGsTOP


Good thing HongUnPrime is getting jinrolled soon
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 24 2011 15:55 GMT
#3096
Both my heroes got through, but I haven'et watched the games. Can't wait for battle report.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
February 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#3097
Man, Jinro looks SO badass.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
February 24 2011 16:06 GMT
#3098
Very impressed with Jinro, again....What I really respect about him is how humble he is, the classiest people in any sports environment win and show respect at the same time, congrats Jinro and Huk both of them have a great chance of winning their respective codes, Rets next.....
Chill Winston......
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11112 Posts
February 24 2011 16:44 GMT
#3099
Damn TL writers seemed to have nailed the predictions last night. Only exception would be hongun. Ah super happy with the results :D No rainbow some hongun and Jinro... rolling.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
February 24 2011 16:50 GMT
#3100
wow Jinro looking very good!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
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