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This thread is for commenting on the games. Not for balance discussions and not for commentator bashing.
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
February 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#1521
On February 23 2011 20:20 gakkgakk wrote:
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On February 23 2011 20:19 nufcrulz wrote:
On February 23 2011 19:51 geenobu wrote:
This shows, that the zergs need to figure out how to defend their expos...it was too easy for GanZI to kill them all with just a few marines.


Well in bw all the Zerg had to do was plop down a few sunkens and there would b no more marine harass, however in sc2 I think spines won't do as well coz they don't do that line splash damage that sunkens do. Also for some reason I don't think they last as long as a sunken would against a small group of marines


Sunkens in BW do damage to a single unit each attack yo~~


He probably meant lurkers... banelings are pretty shitty comparably.
What this
KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
February 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#1522
not bashing on haypro but from the play that he has shown over all of sc2 he is way behind other players and i don't know if he can catch up.
euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
February 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#1523
On February 23 2011 20:17 Tyree wrote:
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Screw all the people saying Haypro isn't good. That dude is probably 100x the player anyone saying he's bad is.


Agree

The problem is that many people in these threads act as if they are better than Flash and Jaedong, have a six pack, earn 9 million $ a year, date Adriana Lima and are 6 time UFC Heavyweight Champions. It would be outright unfair if they even entered GSL, they would defeat anyone without losing a single unit..while playing with their feet.

In other words, they are full of it.

Back to the game, CoCa is looking good but seems like he made too many Corruptors now, he might lack the punch in his ground army


Hey, how do you know so much about me? Stalking? You forgot the third leg length though. (25cm)

Anyway, this is painful to watch, every zerg getting stomped. At least 1 zerg will advance in the last match~~
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#1524
CoCa has some good ideas... then throws away his army... I want to like what he's doing, then it's like "get the units out!"
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#1525
On February 23 2011 20:11 Angelbelow wrote:
Agreed on july having the potential to be a monster. But I dont think July 2-0ing MVP is a direct conformation that July is on MVPs level or is better quite yet. Especially given the circumstances of the games.

If July dominates the GSL 5 as hard as MVP did, then he deserves the recognition. After last nights games, I currently doubt July will dominate. His game against MC was horrible, bad micro, late expansions, bad encounters, having multiple obs reveal his every move.


I wasn't trying to say that July is a better player at the moment (he probably isn't), but to call him a "lesser player" as if he was some sort of a nobody who should never have stood a chance is just silly.

Mvp himself is just the next player in the line of SC2's one-season-bonjwas. People were elvating him to the deity status way too soon (just as they did with mc and nestea and even FD at times).
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
February 23 2011 11:21 GMT
#1526
CoCa plays like MorroW ZvP
Marauder Die Die
Hunted
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia337 Posts
February 23 2011 11:22 GMT
#1527
The Zergs creep spread and bases is making an interesting image....
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
February 23 2011 11:22 GMT
#1528
On February 23 2011 20:14 Ultramus wrote:
Screw all the people saying Haypro isn't good. That dude is probably 100x the player anyone saying he's bad is. Fact is you have to be INSANELY good to win TvZ right now against really good Terrans.

I don't understand this "Haypro made more mistakes" Bullshit, how many of Ganzi's medivacs die without doing any damage in both games? Problem is terran can siege up at every zerg expo and you can't engage it cost effectively, it's pretty frustrating when the only way you can kill their army is if it's unseiged and on creep, and how often do we see that happen? Also letting those hatches die isn't a mistake at all, he HAS to get those bases up, it's worth the risk of losing it at that point to see if you can hold the expansion. Whereas a PF with turrets is basically incapable of being destroyed, factor in auto-repair?? It's just ludicrous.

Infestors are garbage and that's hopping the terran doesn't decide to get AN ghost, scan your army and immediately EMP every infestor you have, we saw it happen to Zenio. There is no recourse that zerg has to this. It makes the game frustrating to watch as an observer, there was no point in there where ganzi was in trouble even after losing his whole army NUMEROUS times.

Don't shit on Haydar, he played that game well, and definitely is a GREAT player.


I like how you snuck in something halfway on topic by mentioning haypro in your "Zerg is UP! Game is broken! QQ" nonsense.

Of course Haypr0 is a great player, but I doubt if he'd be as sad as to rant about how zerg cannot beat terran. He just caught some bad breaks, as he unfortunately usually does in GSL for some reason. A few spine crawlers or a cancelled hatch may have went a long way..but that's all in hindsight.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 23 2011 11:22 GMT
#1529
On February 23 2011 20:22 Hunted wrote:
The Zergs creep spread and bases is making an interesting image....


Freud would be proud
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
arioch
Profile Joined May 2010
England403 Posts
February 23 2011 11:22 GMT
#1530
If the protoss comes back from this one I'll be amazed.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1531
Tasteless and kelly have no idea what they are talking about... zerg can kill protoss now.
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1532
On February 23 2011 20:21 KMARTRULES wrote:
not bashing on haypro but from the play that he has shown over all of sc2 he is way behind other players and i don't know if he can catch up.

Quite a blanket statement with no factual backup.
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1533
On February 23 2011 20:09 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 20:06 Omnipresent wrote:
On February 23 2011 20:00 ct2299 wrote:
Is HayPro going to leave Korea yet? After 5 GSLs I think there may be better chances elsewhere.

Everyone says how the people here make excuses for IdrA whereas when it's HayPro it's his fault. Well IdrA HAS gotten further, MUCH further. After not qualifying/getting kicked out at RO64 and not making it when given a ticket to Code A, it's hard to avoid the elephant in the room.

It's stressful no doubt to play these games, but that's no excuse for losing so many hatcheries and not cancelling.

Also, while people say Ganzi's drops were in vain, he was sacrificing them to get HayPro's mutas and stuff out of position so he could snipe his hatcheries.

8 marines or whatever + medivac < losing hatchery + delaying income substantially.
Every time Ganzi did this, it was like someone stabbing the same cut again and again making it deeper, while sacrificing the same thing. Losing those units doesn't hurt too much but the effect of denying bases compounds substantially.

While I don't think it's really our business to tell players where they should and should not play, I have to sort of agree. Haypro might be pretty solid, but he's been struggling to compete in Korea. Conversely, he could really raise the overall level of play in something like the NASL. He's close to being Code A quality, and there aren't too many foreign players who can say that.

Well let's look at Haypros time in Korea shall we?
- flies in 3 days before GSL2 prelims and is incredibly sick - makes it to the final round
- qualifies for GSL3 but loses to bitbybit's cheese in the Ro64.
- Can't participate in GSL4 because he's not in Code A because of BBB
- Gets invited to Code A for GSL5 and gets one of the strongest players in the tournament first round

He's quite possibly the most unlucky player to go to korea.


It's entirely possible that he's just really unlucky, but it's really hard to know. His Code A opponent was much better than most. It's impossible to know whether Haypro would have beaten a different opponent tonight, or would have beat someone other that BBB in season 3.

But lets look at it this way. The resume you listed looks a lot like Artosis' list of accomplishments so far (though artosis qualified for season 1 instead of 3, and wasn't given a Code A seed). Framed that way, I'm not sure what to think.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1534
Did protoss really just blink directly into a goddamn roach/stalker ball?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1535
Those Dt's destroyed so many drones, while he was busily microing his army. Still has a shot to win this with a big push coming.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1536
So frustrating to lose a game vs DTs when you're so much ahead. I learned this lesson many times though and I always have spore crawlers at expands in late game.
Ayrie
Profile Joined September 2010
United States213 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1537
23 kill executor DT that neither commentator (but the observer did, thankfully) noticed... looks like CoCa can take this game by virtue of the sheer ridiculous amount of units he can make...
And that's what she said.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1538
How did that zerg win....? What? What am I missing?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1539
wtf combeack? wtf blink?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
February 23 2011 11:23 GMT
#1540
...Ace is going to destroy my liquibet streak.
Stick a fork in those buns.
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