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It's ok to be excited that your favorite player won. Please keep it manner!
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
February 12 2011 12:45 GMT
#1001
it's all about what ISP you have
-,-
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 12 2011 12:46 GMT
#1002
On February 12 2011 21:45 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 21:42 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:39 bennyaus wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:37 bennyaus wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:33 DiaBoLuS wrote:
HuK is so overrated... who did he beat so far?

w8 a bit and watch what he is capable of, id be suprised to see him in the final.



Most Code S Koreans on the ladder, most top EU players on laddfer, most top NA pros on ladder/MLG, amongst others. If you're talking tournament play, then you have a legitimate point to some extent. I think the hype is legitimate based on his domination of the Korean and EU ladder though.


Ladder play means nothing to be honest.



Yeah I guess beating the same players you face in tournaments in a competitive setting means "nothing".

Lol .. you are just as parochial in who you support as some americans. At least try to talk without bias! It isn't like we're hyping InControl here.


? Why are you offending me. I beat Kas on ladder, Bly, HasuObs, DieStar, Naugrim, Fenix, moonan..... but I never won against them in a tourney. Its a complete different story. And I'm not supporting any of the players.


Your argument that ladder means nothing doesn't make sense. At the top level, you are facing top 200 people and you can only be in the top 10 if you are beating the top players consistently... not just taking random games off them. I'm not saying ladder means anything, but it is legitimate to hype based on ladder and MLG performance.


You can be top 10 with massing games to be honest. I never said Huk is bad so I don't get why everyone gets pissy. I'm just saying I find it funny that he and everyone seems to think he's clearly the best player out there. Just like if he was Bisu in a D+ tourney.

I'm pretty sure as I mentioned Naniwa is as good if not better in PvT and PvZ.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1003
I know a lot of 12 years old that got that kind of humor though, so don't worry, you're not alone.

thats what makes it funny. Irony is awesome. anyways, lets drop this topic for now.
whowahuh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States184 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1004
On February 12 2011 21:45 Crissaegrim wrote:
Im going out on a limb and say that Huk will lose. There has to be one devil's advocate anyway ^^.

I applaud you for showing us all how to make 1000+ enemies in less than 20 words.
Blessed
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1005
IT IS TIME
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1006
Here we go! Game's about to start.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1007
And I don't think Huk will lose to QXC. Huk is too solid to lose a PvT when being at least equally good if not better than his opponent.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1008
Anyone reading this thread from start to finish without ever watching any of the games can easily guess exactly when games arnt being played because like 2 different arguements break out and last till games start again
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
February 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#1009
On February 12 2011 21:45 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 21:42 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:39 bennyaus wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:37 bennyaus wrote:
On February 12 2011 21:33 DiaBoLuS wrote:
HuK is so overrated... who did he beat so far?

w8 a bit and watch what he is capable of, id be suprised to see him in the final.



Most Code S Koreans on the ladder, most top EU players on laddfer, most top NA pros on ladder/MLG, amongst others. If you're talking tournament play, then you have a legitimate point to some extent. I think the hype is legitimate based on his domination of the Korean and EU ladder though.


Ladder play means nothing to be honest.



Yeah I guess beating the same players you face in tournaments in a competitive setting means "nothing".

Lol .. you are just as parochial in who you support as some americans. At least try to talk without bias! It isn't like we're hyping InControl here.


? Why are you offending me. I beat Kas on ladder, Bly, HasuObs, DieStar, Naugrim, Fenix, moonan..... but I never won against them in a tourney. Its a complete different story. And I'm not supporting any of the players.


Your argument that ladder means nothing doesn't make sense. At the top level, you are facing top 200 people and you can only be in the top 10 if you are beating the top players consistently... not just taking random games off them. I'm not saying ladder means anything, but it is legitimate to hype based on ladder and MLG performance.



That is only true if

1. Top players actually still ladder and take them seriously
2. Top players are not holding back strats knowing that they are playing not in a tournament
3. Ladder is not a bo1
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
February 12 2011 12:48 GMT
#1010
On February 12 2011 21:36 shaunnn wrote:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/318553-Tyler_no_one_here_I_cant_beat_in_a_Bo3Bo5

Good interview with tyler


Cool, I look forward to Tyler fully concentrating on sc2 in 2011.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 12:49:58
February 12 2011 12:49 GMT
#1011
HuK explained it pretty well in his interview. He plays against Nestea, MKP, MVP, MC...on a daily basis and often takes games from them. So I really wouldn't say that ladder doesn't mean anything.

I'm convinced HuK is currently the strongest foreigner, he just needs to take some bigger tournaments so people will recognize that. But it's not easy doing that while in Korea as you only have one shot per month. I remember when TLO was in Korea, he would play one game in a month. And that's all. And now that he's back in Europe, he's all over the place, and you can see his progress and strength easily. And that's something you really can't see when the player only shows up once or twice a month.
dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
February 12 2011 12:50 GMT
#1012
I thought TB was gonna cast MorroW vs TLO? if hes not doing it, who is gonna cast it?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 12:53:24
February 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#1013
On February 12 2011 21:50 dark fuhrer wrote:
I thought TB was gonna cast MorroW vs TLO? if hes not doing it, who is gonna cast it?


Khaldor I believe

TB doing Sein vs Adel, and GLHF doing Huk vs QXC

ed: sounds like TLO vs MorroW might be staggered and will start when Adel finishes?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
February 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#1014
On February 12 2011 21:50 dark fuhrer wrote:
I thought TB was gonna cast MorroW vs TLO? if hes not doing it, who is gonna cast it?


Most likely Polish or German stream. Since GLHF is streaming huk vs qxc and ret vs naniwa.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ziggymondais
Profile Joined July 2009
United States238 Posts
February 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#1015
On February 12 2011 21:50 dark fuhrer wrote:
I thought TB was gonna cast MorroW vs TLO? if hes not doing it, who is gonna cast it?

He is doing Virus.SeiN vs M.Adelscott and then TLO vs Morrow
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
February 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#1016
Is no one going to cast morrow vs tlo?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
February 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#1017
On February 12 2011 21:50 dark fuhrer wrote:
I thought TB was gonna cast MorroW vs TLO? if hes not doing it, who is gonna cast it?


Khaldor is i think. Since TLO is german.

so i think TB- Adel vs Sein
Khaldor - TLO vs Morrow
GLHF - Huk vs Qxc
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 12:53:47
February 12 2011 12:52 GMT
#1018
using ladder as a basis for skill is illogical... ladder is for trying things, new builds etc and to do strategies you are unfamiliar with vs competent opponents... if you just play to win every game by doing your best builds/cheesing on ladder you are pretty much hindering yourself in the long run, this goes for all levels of play... not just at the pro level

eg lets say you are a protoss player and usually go 2gate robo vs terran but need to practice 1gate nexus you do that every game, obviously you are gonna lose to people you wouldn't normally do to... thats why tournament results >>>>>>>>>>>>> ladder
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
February 12 2011 12:52 GMT
#1019
Any restream on the glhf #1 as yday? It breaks up too much for me ;/
Ad augusta per angust
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 12:54:58
February 12 2011 12:52 GMT
#1020
Prediction:
Liquid´TLO < mouz.MorroW
imakki < M.Tarson
Liquid`HuK > ROOT.qxc
aTn.Socke < Liquid`Tyler
Virus.SeiN < M.Adelscott
M.DieStar > PwR.elfi
Liquid`Ret < dignitas.Naniwa
RoX.KIS.Pomi < aAa.SarenS

but I hope for:
Liquid´TLO > mouz.MorroW
aTn.Socke > Liquid`Tyler
Liquid`HuK < ROOT.qxc (because I don't want Socke to play another PvP, if he advances)

Edit: Final: Huk vs Naniwa, which Huk probably will win, because it's Naniwas worst matchup.
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