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Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
February 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#441
On February 07 2011 19:35 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 19:34 KashmirAZ wrote:
I don't play T but would it be viable to just sac the vikings to kill the collossi, meanwhile having the thor on the phoenixes? Most of your army is on the ground and the collossi are wrecking it so if the vikings take them out maybe you have a chance? Just theory crafting as I play zerg.


Yes.
MMM vs Toss no colossi or storm = very dead Toss army.


This logic falls apart when you get into bigger and bigger numbers (4-6+ colossi) due to the far greater scaling of AoE damage compared to single target damage. That scaling is the reason the big colossi balls are so hard to deal with.
peticco
Profile Joined February 2010
Hungary220 Posts
February 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#442
Squirtle has some painful amateur decisions ....
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
February 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#443
can you please stop asking why someone is not unable to play , just read the thread leenock is at school, choya is banned long time ago. so please if someone know a restream link send me a pm !
Power is nothing without control
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 10:41:11
February 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#444
EDIT: Seems Leenock is @ school.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
February 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#445
On February 07 2011 19:33 HolyArrow wrote:
It's funny when a Protoss gets an army composition comprised of its entire tech tree, and Terran has pretty much only Vikings and Marauders along with one Thor, and people complain about Protoss OP. How about Terran getting some Ghosts and more Medivacs, maybe a PDD for the Phoenixes? Protoss won that battle with the by far superior unit comp, just as he rightly should have.


If you get more medivacs, ravens and ghosts, you cant get any vikings. Also, whats the point of emp and pdd, if you have nothing to actually kill the colossi? Its not like that last battle was close. Even without high templar, the protoss would have won easily.

Sure the Protoss used his whole lategame techtree, while the terran didnt. But what is terran supposed to do? battlecruisers? more thors? Tanks and cross fingers that the protoss doesnt haven any chargelots/immortals?

I am only 2.8k masters, but TvP lategame is sooo hard if you dont manage to get some kind of advantage early on.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
February 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#446
On February 07 2011 19:38 mizU wrote:
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On February 07 2011 19:37 Dommk wrote:
On February 07 2011 19:35 Rayansaki wrote:
Terrible Protoss player smashing everyone from fOu :X Never thought I would say this, but Choya is actually a decent player when you compare with his teammates.

Wtf, why is he awful? The only mistake he has done was put Zealots behind his Stalkers and maybe a bad force field or two, the Terran have been playing SIGNIFICANTLY worse than he has

He had decent macro, nice composition...
And he's been winning.
Lack of micro, but he's still winning, so...

How was he winning? He was just saccing units, did you not see the army count? They were both even regardless of his early attacks.

Also the Terran DID NOT micro, the last fight he didn't even bother to micro his bioball AT ALL, he failed miserably with his Viking and let them all auto attack the Pheonix nor did he even make a single good decision the entire game, failed drops, no Ghosts, no real pressure other than trading units. What about Squirtle? Went for great unit composition and made great decisions, his failing point was micro but that was hardly terrible compared to how poorly the Terran were playing
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
February 07 2011 10:41 GMT
#447
On February 07 2011 19:36 mavyric wrote:
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On February 07 2011 19:35 Severus_ wrote:
I don't want to sound like a jerk but lol this terran guys are playing like super noobs...where are the emps,where are the nukes? Where are the drops?Where are the tanks ?Why not switching to thor,banshee comp!? Thank god this guy is owning them...games so far are rly bad I hope this Nuclear guy plays better.



Mass phenix = bye bye drops, tanks, banshees.

IMO the thing that he really needed to do better was get ghosts....when the entire Toss ball is right there in front of you, you'd think one of them would have sense to get EMPs

Sure bro cool story when i Emp your phoenix you will lift my tanks...some other day.Did you see a 2nd obs in the whole game ? so Why not switching to ghost and hellion drops.When people are gonna realize that mech is the way to play vs toss cuz the dumb AoE mechanincs in this game are gonna own you.
ICA
Profile Joined January 2011
498 Posts
February 07 2011 10:41 GMT
#448
On February 07 2011 19:39 Heimatloser wrote:
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On February 07 2011 19:38 Teogamer wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the choya rock paper scissors thing?

choya didnt want to play against friends and/or reveal strategies on korean battlenet, so instead of just leaving when he met friends he suggested rock paper scissors for a quick win.
ppl said yes -> gom banned him.


Do you know how long he is banned?
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 07 2011 10:41 GMT
#449
On February 07 2011 19:39 Danxor wrote:
anyone with a VLC link? I can't get the file to play, gives error every time


Did you try updating?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Burpies
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada409 Posts
February 07 2011 10:41 GMT
#450
Voidray with 0 kills and squirtle continues pumping out voidrays. T_T
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 07 2011 10:41 GMT
#451
On February 07 2011 19:38 Teogamer wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the choya rock paper scissors thing?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184044
Carrilord has arrived.
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
February 07 2011 10:41 GMT
#452
On February 07 2011 19:35 kirbynator wrote:
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On February 07 2011 19:34 Elwar wrote:
Vikings are cost-effective against phoenixes and colossus. He could've just got more vikings.

And not move-command his army in battles, which is probably the most huge mistake he did.


vikings arent cost effective vs phoenixes

especially with the possibility of storm coming out

Vikings are cost-effective vs. phoenixes..? They are about equal in battle and vikings are 25 gas cheaper.

Theres no reason not to make more vikings when the protosses whole army is mostly countered by them. And sure you have to worry about HTs, but properly controlled thors wreck phoenixes, so...

TheBest just monumentally failed.
Burpies
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada409 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#453
Command center goes down for Nuclear.
TheCrow
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway296 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#454
squirtle all kill
Willes
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany199 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#455
im waiting for a T who invents the TvP to some sort of mechplay, collossus just own bioarmys...
Ajunta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany522 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#456
quirtle is pushing, his void rays own up everything
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#457
wait, he just took out 3 terrans? well I'll just send another terran!!!!
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#458
Void rays take out the CC in the natural, Nuclear couldn't do anything about it because of the force field on the ramp.
I <3 Plexa.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#459
VOID WAYS!
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
February 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#460
On February 07 2011 19:41 ICA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 19:39 Heimatloser wrote:
On February 07 2011 19:38 Teogamer wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the choya rock paper scissors thing?

choya didnt want to play against friends and/or reveal strategies on korean battlenet, so instead of just leaving when he met friends he suggested rock paper scissors for a quick win.
ppl said yes -> gom banned him.


Do you know how long he is banned?


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