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NonY
8751 Posts
On January 27 2011 06:24 Pokebunny wrote: Neighboring countries better be very diligent about checking for cannons in their economic centers. I thought he's a Terran player lol | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
he was at one point.. believe now he just plays whichever abuse strategy he feels like doing at that point | ||
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eohs
United States677 Posts
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
he discovered cannon rushes are far more effective than building pfs in the middle of the map, so he switched races | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
He plays both T and P. His ladder race icon has switched back and forth several times over the past few months. That would actually make for a more interesting showmatch imo, him playing half his games as T and the other half as P. | ||
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Ganon-
Canada68 Posts
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On January 27 2011 13:58 JoshSuth wrote: Are you guys being serious about Piqliq? Thought he was just a ladder cheeser. Does he even look at TL? =P I'm 100% serious. No one is claiming that he's the next Jinro or Idra but he's still a solid player. Yes he does cheese almost every game on ladder but his follow-ups and late game management are strong and creative as well. Think about this: every top 200 player has played him multiple times, and they go into every game with him knowing that he will cheese. Yet they still lose (or at least a good amount, enough to keep him consistently top 10 on the global ladder). You can call him a newb, a cheeser, a no-skill mass ladder gamer who can only rely on abusive strategies to win, but he does do stuff that no one else does, and still managees to win. How would he fare outside ladder play? A showmatch with a well-known top gamer would be perfect to see just how good he is, not to mention that the games would definitely be highly entertaining. Unfortunately I have no idea how you would go about contacting him :D | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On January 27 2011 15:03 Anihc wrote: I'm 100% serious. No one is claiming that he's the next Jinro or Idra but he's still a solid player. Yes he does cheese almost every game on ladder but his follow-ups and late game management are strong and creative as well. Think about this: every top 200 player has played him multiple times, and they go into every game with him knowing that he will cheese. Yet they still lose (or at least a good amount, enough to keep him consistently top 10 on the global ladder). You can call him a newb, a cheeser, a no-skill mass ladder gamer who can only rely on abusive strategies to win, but he does do stuff that no one else does, and still managees to win. How would he fare outside ladder play? A showmatch with a well-known top gamer would be perfect to see just how good he is, not to mention that the games would definitely be highly entertaining. Unfortunately I have no idea how you would go about contacting him :D I whole heartedly agree with what you saying about goign into a match KNOWING hes goign to cheese and still not being able to stop it. He plays alot of mind-fuck games with you and his play is pretty smart (cheesy or not). | ||
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jlake02
United States395 Posts
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
On January 27 2011 15:03 Anihc wrote: I'm 100% serious. No one is claiming that he's the next Jinro or Idra but he's still a solid player. Yes he does cheese almost every game on ladder but his follow-ups and late game management are strong and creative as well. Think about this: every top 200 player has played him multiple times, and they go into every game with him knowing that he will cheese. Yet they still lose (or at least a good amount, enough to keep him consistently top 10 on the global ladder). You can call him a newb, a cheeser, a no-skill mass ladder gamer who can only rely on abusive strategies to win, but he does do stuff that no one else does, and still managees to win. How would he fare outside ladder play? A showmatch with a well-known top gamer would be perfect to see just how good he is, not to mention that the games would definitely be highly entertaining. Unfortunately I have no idea how you would go about contacting him :D it's not that he isn't a skilled player, i simply wouldn't recommend him because its a "showmatch" and him cannon-rushing or an equivalent cheese wouldn't be quite the show that the viewers would want it would seem | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On January 28 2011 01:46 RyanRushia wrote: it's not that he isn't a skilled player, i simply wouldn't recommend him because its a "showmatch" and him cannon-rushing or an equivalent cheese wouldn't be quite the show that the viewers would want it would seem Maybe I'm not your average viewer, but I would watch Tyler vs Piqliq anyday over Tyler vs Sheth or Tyler vs [some other top class foreigner]. A showmatch is a great opportunity to get a match that normally wouldn't happen - in this case I believe it's perfect, since Piqliq is a player who only ladders and never participates in tournaments, while Tyler doesn't ladder but has performed decently in many major tournaments. Along the same lines, another player I'd love to see get invited is Katari. Also, Piqliq is far from a one-trick pony who only knows how to cannon rush. Like I've said before, his late-game management is strong, and he plays terran as well (and I've never been bunker rushed by him, at least in TvP :p) | ||
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
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ffz
United States490 Posts
EG vs Liquid. WC3 vs WOW. British vs USA. Please make it happen! | ||
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[Atomic]Peace
United States451 Posts
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On January 29 2011 00:41 Corwin wrote: It would be a little silly to base an entire BO7 around wanting to see Nony crush Piqliq's cheese. Not only would it be over quickly, but it would get boring after the first game or two. Nony v. Drewbie was an awesome set of games full of finely tuned, perfectly executed 1 and 2 base timing attacks. I expect Nony v. Sheth will yield another set of excellent replays. Keep pitting Nony against high level players please! I guess in terms of viewership high level play is irrelevant, only high level names matter. Sigh... I can only dream :p | ||
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ThisIsJimmy
United States546 Posts
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jlake02
United States395 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On January 27 2011 15:03 Anihc wrote: Think about this: every top 200 player has played him multiple times, and they go into every game with him knowing that he will cheese. Yet they still lose (or at least a good amount, enough to keep him consistently top 10 on the global ladder). Before reading this thread, I had no idea how he plays. People regularly play at different times so large groups of players haven't played other large groups of players. For the people who do regularly play him, the goal isn't always to win but rather to learn new things about SC2. If you already know a certain way to beat a certain style of play, it isn't always the most helpful use of time to add one more trial. It's probably better to try something new and know multiple ways to deal with something so that you can choose the best based on nuances of the particular situation. And if you don't know a good way to beat your opponent's style, but you know a bad way to beat it, and by a bad way I mean a way that you know loses to some other style, then it's a waste of time to do the bad way and get a win. You've got to find a way to compromise the two ways to play so that you cover both possibilities. And you're more likely to discover a good way to play by starting from a point that is likely to lose in this particular game and trying to stretch it and adapt it so that it doesn't lose. Starting with the way you know will win and making some small adjustments for a phantom opponent, then grabbing a win against what you were expecting, is not a complete waste of time. It provides some useful info but it's not as effective at getting a solution. | ||
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