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On January 23 2011 11:13 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2011 11:08 vdale wrote:On January 23 2011 10:31 Squeegy wrote:On January 23 2011 10:29 mdma-_- wrote:warcaft 3 players owning tl open  3rd qualifier 3rd ex-wc3 winner The winner of TSL is going to be a BW player though. As with pretty much all important tournaments. It's funny that you forgot Naamas success at Dreamhack, especially because you are from Finland. You are probably right with your first part though, I think a player from Korea has the best chances to win the tournament. I didn't forget anything. I said pretty much all, not all. I think Lucifron won something too but I'm not sure.
Sjow won some tournaments with > 1000€ price money, Demuslim won a ~5000€ tournament, TLO won the pokeridol tournament (he wasn't really a BW player) with ~2000€ price money.
But you are right that BW players won most important tournaments.
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On January 23 2011 11:21 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2011 11:13 Squeegy wrote:On January 23 2011 11:08 vdale wrote:On January 23 2011 10:31 Squeegy wrote:On January 23 2011 10:29 mdma-_- wrote:warcaft 3 players owning tl open 3rd qualifier 3rd ex-wc3 winner The winner of TSL is going to be a BW player though. As with pretty much all important tournaments. It's funny that you forgot Naamas success at Dreamhack, especially because you are from Finland. You are probably right with your first part though, I think a player from Korea has the best chances to win the tournament. I didn't forget anything. I said pretty much all, not all. I think Lucifron won something too but I'm not sure. Sjow won some tournaments with > 1000€ price money, Demuslim won a ~5000€ tournament, TLO won the pokeridol tournament (he wasn't really a BW player) with ~2000€ price money. But you are right that BW players won most important tournaments.
I said important tournaments. The one Demuslim won had only Socke and Sarens. Sjow did however win at least Inferno Online. He won that UK thing too but it had barely anyone notable playing. Can't remember more.
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why is this turning into WC3 vs BW? it's been proven time and again wc3 players can compete with people who transitioned from BW. However no one high level from BW have transitioned over which is why there isn't a big skill gap, high level kespa ranked BW players are completely different beasts than the bw players we have now in sc2
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well cruncher did cheese the crap out of kiwikaki and apparently? the french zerg guy, he is pretty good at pvt ( who isn't ) he did really pwn fenix though lol
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There aren't really many active sc2, ex-BW gods, that aren't currently in Asia except for WhiteRa and Tyler. So it's really not surprising that the lesser known ex-war3 pros have won the first three qualifiers. I think WhiteRa or TLO is going to end up taking down the Euro qualifier though.
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On January 23 2011 11:43 daxile wrote:
why is this turning into WC3 vs BW? it's been proven time and again wc3 players can compete with people who transitioned from BW. However no one high level from BW have transitioned over which is why there isn't a big skill gap, high level kespa ranked BW players are completely different beasts than the bw players we have now in sc2
you mean like july nada and mvp...? I mean it's not like they were too high in kespa at the time of their switch, but they still would've been singificant favorites against all foreign BW players
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Actually, Nada is proof that extraordinary skill in BW (three-time OSL champion I believe? And one of the most consistent BW champions...) does not necessarily ensure future dominance in the game or other related games. Skill in RTS games is not apparently something that is sure to get better with time.
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He was explicitly referring to active, A-team broodwar players and not some washed up champion of the past or mediocre bench sitters (mvp who's rocking gsl anyway).
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On January 23 2011 13:00 Azarkon wrote:
Actually, Nada is proof that extraordinary skill in BW (three-time OSL champion I believe? And one of the most consistent BW champions...) does not necessarily ensure future dominance in the game or other related games. Skill in RTS games is not apparently something that is sure to get better with time.
Nada was fucking terrible at bw relative to people like MVP at the point he switched over.
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Congrats cruncher. All your teamates and I look forward to sending you off to MLG this year. Keep up the hard work.
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Vods up so quickly and such great quality! I love it! Thanks! 
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TLO vs Fenix reminds me of the Homestory Cup #2 - TLO gets an advantage through nice play, and then throws it somehow away - but who am I to judge his play, getting to semi-finals playing random is awesome!!
♥TLO
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god damn cruncher looked solid, wether it be cheese or just solid stable play he pulled it all off in great fashion. I'm a fan, now get him to the GSL and we'll see what he's really made off 
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This is a goal the team has. We are hoping to make contacts and be sending players there by next year. Right now as a new team were going to be sending players to MLG. So were off to a good start.
On January 23 2011 21:32 FarbrorAbavna wrote:god damn cruncher looked solid, wether it be cheese or just solid stable play he pulled it all off in great fashion. I'm a fan, now get him to the GSL and we'll see what he's really made off
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CrunCher on the Pinnacle of his career, not because of the win, but he can call himself 'noob' now, according to Idra on JPs youtube channel.
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