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Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
January 15 2011 09:46 GMT
#3441
On January 15 2011 18:44 PimpWilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:39 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Main_Event

I even made a thread on GOM site to make a chart or some Brackets tab. The Schedule tab isn't enough to give a comprehensive view of the groups and the progression of the tournament.


Yup I was checking that list out, it sure looks like they kept both halves fairly segregated, and could have at LEAST stopped double jeopardy until the Round of 4, too bad, hopefully they fix this for next season

Ya, it sucks they didn't arrange the ro8 pairings to not have rematches, but at least there will be a foreigner in the ro4.
www.TheInfestedArchon.com - SC2 Satire
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 15 2011 09:48 GMT
#3442
oh my god, i cant believ i missed this. now im trying to access the VODs but it takes rougly 2 millenia for one to load
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
January 15 2011 09:48 GMT
#3443
Wow Jinro. Wow.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 09:51:03
January 15 2011 09:48 GMT
#3444
On January 15 2011 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:32 Mikau wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:29 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:27 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:25 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:24 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:21 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:19 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:17 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:15 ricerocket wrote:
[quote]

"Cheapshot" implied malicious intent, and I don't see that in any of those pics (as opposed to degrading the match by accusing MC of throwing games). People can have bad sense of humor, why don't you be a bigger man and just ignore it?


If you don't say anything, how will people know it's wrong and in poor taste?


Why is having bad taste in humor "wrong" exactly? It's wrong for you because you don't find it funny, but what place do you have to not let other people have their fun, tasteful or otherwise?


How is disagreeing with someone wrong? How is having a cordial debate wrong?


It isn't. Don't you see?


I'm glad to see that you have come around to see my point of view .


I think you got your logic backwards sir. I was asking why is what they are doing wrong, and now you are asking why is disagreeing with you wrong. Neither the bad humor or disliking/disagreeing with the bad humor is wrong. It's the internet.


True, having a civilized debate is important, but I think we can all agree that the edited pictures were done in poor taste.

In poor taste, yes. That doesn't mean however that anyone can decide whether or not anyone is allowed to think it's funny.

Actually yes we can? What on earth makes you think we can't decide that. Did you read the 10 commandments cause that would be a good idea.

As for all the distasteful stuff going on in this topic, we haven't had time to go over it but we'll talk about what our stance will be on it. Could be a lot of bans coming up.

You can decide whether or not images are appropriate. If not appropriate people should and most likely will get banned for it. Seeing as no mod has banned anyone for making those (in bad taste) pictures, apparently they are deemed appropriate.

Whether or not they're funny is a completely different story. I personally don't care for them but I'm not going around telling people they shouldn't like them, because that's anybody's own personal decision.

And yes, I have read the 10 commandments, and none of them say "you shall agree with the moderators' sense of humour".
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 09:53:51
January 15 2011 09:48 GMT
#3445
On January 15 2011 18:46 Hoju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:44 PimpWilly wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:39 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Main_Event

I even made a thread on GOM site to make a chart or some Brackets tab. The Schedule tab isn't enough to give a comprehensive view of the groups and the progression of the tournament.


Yup I was checking that list out, it sure looks like they kept both halves fairly segregated, and could have at LEAST stopped double jeopardy until the Round of 4, too bad, hopefully they fix this for next season

Ya, it sucks they didn't arrange the ro8 pairings to not have rematches, but at least there will be a foreigner in the ro4.

Is it even possible to avoid this if you decide to have group stage following a group stage?

On January 15 2011 18:48 Mikau wrote:
You can decide whether or not images are appropriate. If not appropriate people should and most likely will get banned for it. Seeing as no mod has banned anyone for making those (in bad taste) pictures, apparently they are deemed appropriate.

Whether or not they're funny is a completely different story. I personally don't care for them but I'm not going around telling people they shouldn't like them, because that's anybody's own personal decision.

And yes, I have read the 10 commandments, and none of them say "you shall agree with the moderators' sense of humour".

1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE

If we decide something is not funny then we may warn/ban for it. As is the case with retarded memes, macro pics and other dumb jokes already.
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nairesu
Profile Joined January 2011
3 Posts
January 15 2011 09:49 GMT
#3446
If before you make a post you think "how will the mods react to that", instead of "how the community will react to that" you shouldn't be here.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
January 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#3447
On January 15 2011 18:40 CanucksJC wrote:
interviews are up

dumb question, but where?
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#3448
I'm so sad MC is out.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#3449
On January 15 2011 18:48 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:32 Mikau wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:29 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:27 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:25 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:24 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:21 ptbl wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:19 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:17 ptbl wrote:
[quote]

If you don't say anything, how will people know it's wrong and in poor taste?


Why is having bad taste in humor "wrong" exactly? It's wrong for you because you don't find it funny, but what place do you have to not let other people have their fun, tasteful or otherwise?


How is disagreeing with someone wrong? How is having a cordial debate wrong?


It isn't. Don't you see?


I'm glad to see that you have come around to see my point of view .


I think you got your logic backwards sir. I was asking why is what they are doing wrong, and now you are asking why is disagreeing with you wrong. Neither the bad humor or disliking/disagreeing with the bad humor is wrong. It's the internet.


True, having a civilized debate is important, but I think we can all agree that the edited pictures were done in poor taste.

In poor taste, yes. That doesn't mean however that anyone can decide whether or not anyone is allowed to think it's funny.

Actually yes we can? What on earth makes you think we can't decide that. Did you read the 10 commandments cause that would be a good idea.

As for all the distasteful stuff going on in this topic, we haven't had time to go over it but we'll talk about what our stance will be on it. Could be a lot of bans coming up.

Seeing as no mod has banned anyone for making those (in bad taste) pictures, apparently they are deemed appropriate.

There's warnings all around, so it's not appropriate.

Anyways, there's probably other places to take a discussion about moderation besides this thread. This should be about basking in the glow of Jinro.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
silentsod
Profile Joined August 2010
United States198 Posts
January 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#3450
On January 15 2011 18:37 Hoju wrote:
I was going to write about how pathetic some of these posts were, and a bunch of serious crap, but this felt more appropriate:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Love,
The Infested Archon


Now this is hilarious.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#3451
Would've definetly prefered a BW style group play (OSL style that is) for the RO16 or just BO3 single elim. 2x group stages was too much imo
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Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
January 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#3452
On January 15 2011 18:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:46 Hoju wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:44 PimpWilly wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:39 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Main_Event

I even made a thread on GOM site to make a chart or some Brackets tab. The Schedule tab isn't enough to give a comprehensive view of the groups and the progression of the tournament.


Yup I was checking that list out, it sure looks like they kept both halves fairly segregated, and could have at LEAST stopped double jeopardy until the Round of 4, too bad, hopefully they fix this for next season

Ya, it sucks they didn't arrange the ro8 pairings to not have rematches, but at least there will be a foreigner in the ro4.

Is it even possible to avoid this if you decide to have group stage following a group stage?

They could've avoided it for one more round.

ro16 groups A and B only had players from ro32 groups A, B, C, and D and ro16 groups C and D only had players from ro32 groups E, F, G, and H. So if you do the ro8 pairings by having ro16 group A players play players from groups C or D, there'd be no way they could've played before. No rematches would happen until ro4.

If that makes any sense
www.TheInfestedArchon.com - SC2 Satire
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4751 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 09:53:06
January 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#3453
On January 15 2011 18:46 CalmDown.Breathe wrote:
I"d love to have Nazgul and SirScoots in the same room for the Jinro v Idra set. Oh the rage and trash talking that would ensue in that room...


Lol What have i missed? All the drama usually happens when i am asleep. DAMN!
Pathetic Greta hater.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
January 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#3454
On January 15 2011 18:51 woody60707 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:40 CanucksJC wrote:
interviews are up

dumb question, but where?

for some reason op didn't link it lol
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
January 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#3455
On January 15 2011 18:44 silaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:33 ricerocket wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:30 coddan wrote:
This "that's so BM" shit is getting out of hand on Team Liquid. I'm relatively new here, but holy fuck, every thread about every tournament is littered with all these retarded BM comments. "Why hasn't he GG'd yet, so BM", "he didnt say gg back, so bm", "omg he went over to the opponent after the game, thats so bm". It makes me cringe, every fucking time.


cosigned, it really makes the population here look like a bunch of kids who can do nothing about being bullied cept venting on the internet. it's fucking pathetic

I also got a warning for my post. I come from Quake community so when I got into SC2 community it was almost like hitting a brick wall. I was amazed how different those communities are. The amount of shit spouting, bad mannering (whatever you want to call it) among the Quake/FPS players/admins/teammates is astounding yet no one is overreacting, pouting. I have to agree with Idra, so many people get butt hurt about things that are so trivial.

Nobody is forcing you to be here. If you disagree with our moderation policies and standards, you are free to create and post on your own forum with your own rules that are less restrictive.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ricerocket
Profile Joined May 2010
154 Posts
January 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#3456
On January 15 2011 18:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:46 Hoju wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:44 PimpWilly wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:39 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Main_Event

I even made a thread on GOM site to make a chart or some Brackets tab. The Schedule tab isn't enough to give a comprehensive view of the groups and the progression of the tournament.


Yup I was checking that list out, it sure looks like they kept both halves fairly segregated, and could have at LEAST stopped double jeopardy until the Round of 4, too bad, hopefully they fix this for next season

Ya, it sucks they didn't arrange the ro8 pairings to not have rematches, but at least there will be a foreigner in the ro4.

Is it even possible to avoid this if you decide to have group stage following a group stage?


Maybe match winner/runner ups of group A with those of group C? and B with D? Instead of A/B and C/D
PimpWilly
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 09:54:20
January 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#3457
On January 15 2011 18:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

Is it even possible to avoid this if you decide to have group stage following a group stage?


I was looking it over, and it seems to be, since they basically take each groups pairings by cutting the group in half
ABCD EFGH

condensed into
AB(comprised of ABCD) and CD (comprised of EFGH)

then into round of 8, they just need to switch up the pairings

A v C (both winners and losers, on opposite halves of the bracket)
B v D (both winners and losers, on opposite halves of the bracket)

this keeps double jeopardy from happening until ro4, the earliest it could be prevented

Instead they did

A v B
C v D

guaranteeing double jeopardy, and no way for people to float between both halves until the finals, which is a bit too rigid
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
January 15 2011 09:54 GMT
#3458
On January 15 2011 18:53 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:51 woody60707 wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:40 CanucksJC wrote:
interviews are up

dumb question, but where?

for some reason op didn't link it lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183868


Thank you.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
January 15 2011 09:54 GMT
#3459
All the Jinro fans who wanna kick a guy when he's down (by supporting the p-shopped picture), have you considered that by doing so you're basically showing you have less class than Jinro? Even Tychus (Tasteless) Findlay doesn't kick dirt on a friend when he's down (although he shoots a disabled Dominion marine in the face).

Speaking of not having class, I'm enjoying that ending song for Code S. Didn't think I'd ever be okay with something made by a boy band.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 15 2011 09:55 GMT
#3460
On January 15 2011 18:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 18:46 Hoju wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:44 PimpWilly wrote:
On January 15 2011 18:39 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Sony_Ericsson_Global_StarCraft_II_League_January/Main_Event

I even made a thread on GOM site to make a chart or some Brackets tab. The Schedule tab isn't enough to give a comprehensive view of the groups and the progression of the tournament.


Yup I was checking that list out, it sure looks like they kept both halves fairly segregated, and could have at LEAST stopped double jeopardy until the Round of 4, too bad, hopefully they fix this for next season

Ya, it sucks they didn't arrange the ro8 pairings to not have rematches, but at least there will be a foreigner in the ro4.

Is it even possible to avoid this if you decide to have group stage following a group stage?


You don't necessarily have to have a linear draw progression out of the R16

I don't think there'd be anything wrong with something like:

top half of bracket

winner group A vs r/u group D
winner group B vs r/u group C

bottom half of bracket

winner group C vs r/u group B
winner group D vs r/u group A

You can still maintain a winner meets runner up progression, but just by swapping sides of the bracket you avoid direct rematches.
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