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mcbrite
Germany229 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:55 divinesage wrote: What about the picture edits? I don't think those are good sport as well. Anyway Jinro now owes it to ogs and mc to win the league. I mean he just has to win after all that. We're not talking about Mohamed-Cartoons here, lighten the f*** up.... | ||
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thanhbao86
Canada199 Posts
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:55 Cyanocyst wrote: That was obviously sarcasm....ugh we need a better way to write English to portray particular emotions. I recommend bold font for sarcasm, it usually gets the message across. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:55 MadPretty wrote: I think Tastosis kinda nailed it in an earlier cast when they said that in the first season, the game wasn't known like it is now, and rainbow was able to capitalize on that. People are getting better and it seems he may have plateaued a bit. I think even in the first season, there was some interviews saying that Rainbow and FD are actually someone who practices very little compared to their counterparts. Their success in GSL 1 might be due to the fact that the game was not figured out very well as well as the fact that they had extensive beta playing records. Of course you can't expect to do the same nowadays. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:53 Zephirdd wrote: Jinro. Mech. Play. Macro. Kill. Mc. HOLY CRAP THAT WAS INSANE. Just for you guys to understand the second game, MC had little time to think how to deal with the "new" Terran Jinro just invented, and his best response was "Carriers". IMO voidrays would have done better since they are cheaper and are built faster, at least early on, but what killed him is that his phoenix were clumped up and the Thors would just ROLL through the light-armor they have, which means Vikings wouldn't be destroyed, which means Carriers would be very exposed. Ideally, Voidrays would be the best counter, but in the middle of all that pressure MC wouldn't have a chance to think about it and would respond badly. Since he wasnt prepared to deal with the composition, he tried a fast non-sentry 4warpgate, which comes out faster than sentry-based ones since it requires less gas, and it went badly although it dealt enough damage to not be a full allin. He didn't throw the game, he was just disoriented since he had no idea of how to deal with mech-based play on a PvT. Just like nobody knew how to deal with his voidray pushes when using bio-based play. I feel the factor that decided it was that Jinro managed to scout the carriers and prep accordingly , any stargate play gets shutdown by marines + vikings, so Jinro would've done the same response either way. | ||
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Mintastic
United States166 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:55 EnderCraft wrote: Its pretty obvious though that MC just had his huge ego bubble popped... I just hope he doesn't go on tilt because of this. I still want to see cocky MC next season! He will be fine. He is still one of the best P in the world. Neither of those 2 games were crushing defeats. They were intense games which literally could have went either way. Jinro just got the better of him by better eco harass in G1, and better 4gate stopping / scouting of carriers in G2. Amazing game by Jinro. | ||
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Spacemanspiff
United States116 Posts
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DetrA
United States148 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:57 silaser wrote: [Mod edit: keep the inappropriate memes off TL.] very useful talent toi have | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:54 gulati wrote: P.S guys, it's funny putting up the pics, but Jinro is going to be reading this thread tonight, and there is a nice chance MC might also. It's probably better to not make them feel awkward by seeing these pics and trololo faces on them. Just my two cents  Especially since you can actually see just how shitty jinro feels about knocking MC out. Ohh if jinro had just won game 1  so well played, just one mistake... | ||
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LoCaD
Germany1634 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:55 divinesage wrote: What about the picture edits? I don't think those are good sport as well. Anyway Jinro now owes it to ogs and mc to win the league. I mean he just has to win after all that. fully agreed but the autoban doesnt use the quoted pictures does it i critisized one such poster and quoted on a picture of his. | ||
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whowahuh
United States184 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:53 Zephirdd wrote: Jinro. Mech. Play. Macro. Kill. Mc. HOLY CRAP THAT WAS INSANE. Just for you guys to understand the second game, MC had little time to think how to deal with the "new" Terran Jinro just invented, and his best response was "Carriers". IMO voidrays would have done better since they are cheaper and are built faster, at least early on, but what killed him is that his phoenix were clumped up and the Thors would just ROLL through the light-armor they have, which means Vikings wouldn't be destroyed, which means Carriers would be very exposed. Ideally, Voidrays would be the best counter, but in the middle of all that pressure MC wouldn't have a chance to think about it and would respond badly. Since he wasnt prepared to deal with the composition, he tried a fast non-sentry 4warpgate, which comes out faster than sentry-based ones since it requires less gas, and it went badly although it dealt enough damage to not be a full allin. He didn't throw the game, he was just disoriented since he had no idea of how to deal with mech-based play on a PvT. Just like nobody knew how to deal with his voidray pushes when using bio-based play. I have to disagree that void rays would've been the best counter. Sure, we would give MC the benefit of the doubt and say that he would've micro'ed them to prevent clumping and taking excessive damage from the Thor splash damage, but even without the splash damage, he was going up against a sizable thor army and 12+ vikings. This army can easily wittle down the void rays before enough of them become fully charged. In the end, I think MC would've fared better with some high templars in the mix. You can see how the vikings were all initially extremely clumped up, and with their slow acceleration rates, a couple storms would've taken down their hp considerably and forced a retreat, leaving carriers/phoenixes more protected to do damage. Also, going the twilight route would've opened up chargelots upgrade which would've also done good, cost-effective damage against thors (dealing damage + soaking up thor dps for immortals to do their higher damage). | ||
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:57 NEOtheONE wrote: I recommend bold font for sarcasm, it usually gets the message across. Thanks ill keep that in mind, im not particularly internet lingo savy. Though i thought my statement was obvious enough in its self. | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:57 silaser wrote: [Mod edit: please stop perpetuating these memes] Its actually :D you're really good at making carriers very useful talent toi have | ||
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Bathtub
United States9 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
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Cybren
United States206 Posts
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:57 Mintastic wrote: Wow, barely surviving 4-gate and transitioning into deathball mech army. I guess from now on metagame for PvT will be switching to mech for at least a little while. Will have to start learning this new way. Except mech is decimated by non-carrier builds :/ I hope the match-up does evolve, but I don't think this strategy will take on other than at the highest level where players have the skill to pull it off. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:51 vict1019 wrote: title should be changed to say that only positive posts about Jinro are allowed There is a difference in being critical and disrespectful. Saying that MC threw the game is disrespectful to both players. Making those stupid pictures is extremely disrespectful to a sporting gesture by Jinro. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On January 15 2011 17:54 gulati wrote: P.S guys, it's funny putting up the pics, but Jinro is going to be reading this thread tonight, and there is a nice chance MC might also. It's probably better to not make them feel awkward by seeing these pics and trololo faces on them. Just my two cents I agree, this thread took a really mean spirited turn considering the relationship of the two players. Idra versus Clide is one thing. But Jinro and MC another IMO. A little more class wouldn't hurt in situations like this. As the TL community we should also look out for oGs too in a sense since they are like our starcraft-sibling lol. | ||
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