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mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
January 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#3221
On January 15 2011 17:55 divinesage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:46 Kennigit wrote:
Suggesting that MC threw the game instead of playing sloppy is now bannable. Plexa and i will be working our way backwards to murder culprits. This would be a good time to edit your shit.


What about the picture edits? I don't think those are good sport as well.


Anyway Jinro now owes it to ogs and mc to win the league. I mean he just has to win after all that.


We're not talking about Mohamed-Cartoons here, lighten the f*** up....
thanhbao86
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada199 Posts
January 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#3222
I think Artosis said that Idra vs Jinra should be BO5 not that it is a BO5. I think people are mistaken.
Fat Dragoon
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#3223
On January 15 2011 17:55 Cyanocyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:53 mango_destroyer wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:53 Cyanocyst wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:51 Cyanocyst wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:50 ffadicted wrote:
Ugh why does Ro8 have to be best of 3? Do we really want to decide something as epic as Gorilla vs. Gracken in 3 games? >:[


Its best of 5 so quit complaining. lol


Best of 3. It is on the GOM site and they are not going to have 2 Bo5 in a day.



But Artosis seemed so certain. Hes never been wrong before.


Yes he has. He had got some matchups wrong before.



That was obviously sarcasm....ugh we need a better way to write English to portray particular emotions.


I recommend bold font for sarcasm, it usually gets the message across.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#3224
On January 15 2011 17:55 MadPretty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:50 ABOOMAN wrote:
Anyone wonders what the f happened to Rainbow over the seasons, does he practice sc2 at all now or what ><


I think Tastosis kinda nailed it in an earlier cast when they said that in the first season, the game wasn't known like it is now, and rainbow was able to capitalize on that. People are getting better and it seems he may have plateaued a bit.


I think even in the first season, there was some interviews saying that Rainbow and FD are actually someone who practices very little compared to their counterparts. Their success in GSL 1 might be due to the fact that the game was not figured out very well as well as the fact that they had extensive beta playing records.

Of course you can't expect to do the same nowadays.




Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
January 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#3225
On January 15 2011 17:53 Zephirdd wrote:
Jinro. Mech. Play. Macro. Kill. Mc. HOLY CRAP THAT WAS INSANE.


Just for you guys to understand the second game, MC had little time to think how to deal with the "new" Terran Jinro just invented, and his best response was "Carriers". IMO voidrays would have done better since they are cheaper and are built faster, at least early on, but what killed him is that his phoenix were clumped up and the Thors would just ROLL through the light-armor they have, which means Vikings wouldn't be destroyed, which means Carriers would be very exposed.

Ideally, Voidrays would be the best counter, but in the middle of all that pressure MC wouldn't have a chance to think about it and would respond badly. Since he wasnt prepared to deal with the composition, he tried a fast non-sentry 4warpgate, which comes out faster than sentry-based ones since it requires less gas, and it went badly although it dealt enough damage to not be a full allin.


He didn't throw the game, he was just disoriented since he had no idea of how to deal with mech-based play on a PvT. Just like nobody knew how to deal with his voidray pushes when using bio-based play.


I feel the factor that decided it was that Jinro managed to scout the carriers and prep accordingly , any stargate play gets shutdown by marines + vikings, so Jinro would've done the same response either way.
Mintastic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States166 Posts
January 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#3226
Wow, barely surviving 4-gate and transitioning into deathball mech army. I guess from now on metagame for PvT will be switching to mech for at least a little while. Will have to start learning this new way.
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gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3227
On January 15 2011 17:55 EnderCraft wrote:
Its pretty obvious though that MC just had his huge ego bubble popped... I just hope he doesn't go on tilt because of this. I still want to see cocky MC next season!


He will be fine. He is still one of the best P in the world. Neither of those 2 games were crushing defeats. They were intense games which literally could have went either way. Jinro just got the better of him by better eco harass in G1, and better 4gate stopping / scouting of carriers in G2. Amazing game by Jinro.
C r u m b l i n g
Spacemanspiff
Profile Joined September 2010
United States116 Posts
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3228
I don't get the picture edits, he didnt go into the booth to gloat.
DetrA
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 09:48:46
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3229
On January 15 2011 17:57 silaser wrote:
[Mod edit: keep the inappropriate memes off TL.]


very useful talent toi have
"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence." -Calvin Coolidge
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3230
On January 15 2011 17:54 gulati wrote:
P.S guys, it's funny putting up the pics, but Jinro is going to be reading this thread tonight, and there is a nice chance MC might also. It's probably better to not make them feel awkward by seeing these pics and trololo faces on them. Just my two cents

Especially since you can actually see just how shitty jinro feels about knocking MC out. Ohh if jinro had just won game 1 so well played, just one mistake...
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3231
On January 15 2011 17:55 divinesage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:46 Kennigit wrote:
Suggesting that MC threw the game instead of playing sloppy is now bannable. Plexa and i will be working our way backwards to murder culprits. This would be a good time to edit your shit.


What about the picture edits? I don't think those are good sport as well.


Anyway Jinro now owes it to ogs and mc to win the league. I mean he just has to win after all that.


fully agreed but the autoban doesnt use the quoted pictures does it i critisized one such poster and quoted on a picture of his.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
whowahuh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States184 Posts
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3232
On January 15 2011 17:53 Zephirdd wrote:
Jinro. Mech. Play. Macro. Kill. Mc. HOLY CRAP THAT WAS INSANE.


Just for you guys to understand the second game, MC had little time to think how to deal with the "new" Terran Jinro just invented, and his best response was "Carriers". IMO voidrays would have done better since they are cheaper and are built faster, at least early on, but what killed him is that his phoenix were clumped up and the Thors would just ROLL through the light-armor they have, which means Vikings wouldn't be destroyed, which means Carriers would be very exposed.

Ideally, Voidrays would be the best counter, but in the middle of all that pressure MC wouldn't have a chance to think about it and would respond badly. Since he wasnt prepared to deal with the composition, he tried a fast non-sentry 4warpgate, which comes out faster than sentry-based ones since it requires less gas, and it went badly although it dealt enough damage to not be a full allin.


He didn't throw the game, he was just disoriented since he had no idea of how to deal with mech-based play on a PvT. Just like nobody knew how to deal with his voidray pushes when using bio-based play.


I have to disagree that void rays would've been the best counter. Sure, we would give MC the benefit of the doubt and say that he would've micro'ed them to prevent clumping and taking excessive damage from the Thor splash damage, but even without the splash damage, he was going up against a sizable thor army and 12+ vikings. This army can easily wittle down the void rays before enough of them become fully charged.

In the end, I think MC would've fared better with some high templars in the mix. You can see how the vikings were all initially extremely clumped up, and with their slow acceleration rates, a couple storms would've taken down their hp considerably and forced a retreat, leaving carriers/phoenixes more protected to do damage. Also, going the twilight route would've opened up chargelots upgrade which would've also done good, cost-effective damage against thors (dealing damage + soaking up thor dps for immortals to do their higher damage).
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
January 15 2011 08:58 GMT
#3233
On January 15 2011 17:57 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:55 Cyanocyst wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:53 mango_destroyer wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:53 Cyanocyst wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:51 Cyanocyst wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:50 ffadicted wrote:
Ugh why does Ro8 have to be best of 3? Do we really want to decide something as epic as Gorilla vs. Gracken in 3 games? >:[


Its best of 5 so quit complaining. lol


Best of 3. It is on the GOM site and they are not going to have 2 Bo5 in a day.



But Artosis seemed so certain. Hes never been wrong before.


Yes he has. He had got some matchups wrong before.



That was obviously sarcasm....ugh we need a better way to write English to portray particular emotions.


I recommend bold font for sarcasm, it usually gets the message across.


Thanks ill keep that in mind, im not particularly internet lingo savy. Though i thought my statement was obvious enough in its self.
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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 09:49:27
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3234
On January 15 2011 17:57 silaser wrote:
[Mod edit: please stop perpetuating these memes]

Its actually :D

you're really good at making carriers
very useful talent toi have
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Bathtub
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3235
I am just so pumped up still!!!!! so happy for Jinro and all of TL. =DDDDDDD
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 08:59:52
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3236
It's obviously your choice whether to make these picture images or not, but clearly the mood behind Jinro in MC's booth was a somber one, rather than a gloat. Don't really see the humor in team kills between friends, and especially when MC seemed to take it so hard. Just my two cents on all the image macros.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Cybren
Profile Joined February 2010
United States206 Posts
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3237
You know what this means, right? No one can bitch when they give jinro one of the Korean invite slots for tsl3
The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3238
On January 15 2011 17:57 Mintastic wrote:
Wow, barely surviving 4-gate and transitioning into deathball mech army. I guess from now on metagame for PvT will be switching to mech for at least a little while. Will have to start learning this new way.

Except mech is decimated by non-carrier builds :/
I hope the match-up does evolve, but I don't think this strategy will take on other than at the highest level where players have the skill to pull it off.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3239
On January 15 2011 17:51 vict1019 wrote:
title should be changed to say that only positive posts about Jinro are allowed

There is a difference in being critical and disrespectful. Saying that MC threw the game is disrespectful to both players. Making those stupid pictures is extremely disrespectful to a sporting gesture by Jinro.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#3240
On January 15 2011 17:54 gulati wrote:
P.S guys, it's funny putting up the pics, but Jinro is going to be reading this thread tonight, and there is a nice chance MC might also. It's probably better to not make them feel awkward by seeing these pics and trololo faces on them. Just my two cents


I agree, this thread took a really mean spirited turn considering the relationship of the two players. Idra versus Clide is one thing. But Jinro and MC another IMO. A little more class wouldn't hurt in situations like this. As the TL community we should also look out for oGs too in a sense since they are like our starcraft-sibling lol.
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