EPT[GSL] Code A Ro32 Day 5 / Code S Ro32 Group F - Page 81
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On January 08 2011 03:20 sandyph wrote: because ranked 1-8 are 1st seed, 9-16 are 2nd seed and the rest are randomly drawn into seed 3&4 (based on the point here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class#S-Class) not 17-24 as seed 3 and 25-32 as seed 4 thats why we have ImMVP (28) and JookTo (32) as seed 3&4 in group B and and Check (18) and idRa (22) as seed 3&4 in group F so its just bad luck(?) for Nada to be drawn as 3rd seed where San got the 4th seed Yes it's due to the draws for seeds 3 and 4. You can be rated 18th and still end up as the lowest seed in your greep if the 3rd seed is 17th. So the only one you can blame is NaDa for picking such a group and end up as 3rd seed rather than 4th. A good example of such bad luck would be Group D. A Rain (6th) C Kyrix(16th) B Choya (17th) D Tester(19th) | ||
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
On January 08 2011 03:31 GP wrote: He's a macro player, that's what he does. Your description of Nada can be applied to Idra or Ret (except counter-attacking rather than attacking) and they're considered two of the best. His decision making is pretty good, while his first attack on MC I think was intentionally timed to wipe out all of the sentries before any Collossi arrived and it really hurt MC and likely delayed his push. MC just controlled the game. I was actually really impressed with Nada's play against Inca and Inca's first game was sick. I think if Inca improves his mechanics he could vie for one of the top Protoss spots. His build order was brilliant, and I think if he didn't attack up the ramp during the contain he might have won. No I don't think his decision making was good at all in several instances. I managed to catch the games (vs oGsMC and 1 game vs Inca) and I was screaming in my head many times "What the hell are you doing?" before the many times he decided to attack and terribly failed within seconds. If I could have guessed the outcome of those skirmishes, so should Nada, and if he did, well, then, you saw what happened. I never said anything about him not being one of the best, if anything I acknowledge him as the most successful and most consistent BW player of ALL TIME. In fact I was such a fan of his before seeing the games today, and I was terribly disappointed. Even though he made it through his group, I was not impressed at all. I guess that's why I prefer to watch players like SlayersBoxer and JulyZerg, whose innovations are ahead of their time. They don't have to win games to win my heart and support. | ||
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GinDo
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NaDa Hwaiting. TORNADO TERRAN  | ||
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
Btw. I have question about Premium Acces ( gomtv ). Is that possible, to watch HD Live by 2 ppl from 1 account ? ( I have premium acces, but my friend dont, and i want to give him acces to my acc ) Is there a ban for this, or its legal ? | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Crazy mind games going for the fake hatch and building a bling nest on that left over creep | ||
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Tsabo
Russian Federation266 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On January 08 2011 03:20 sandyph wrote: because ranked 1-8 are 1st seed, 9-16 are 2nd seed and the rest are randomly drawn into seed 3&4 (based on the point here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class#S-Class) not 17-24 as seed 3 and 25-32 as seed 4 thats why we have ImMVP (28) and JookTo (32) as seed 3&4 in group B and and Check (18) and idRa (22) as seed 3&4 in group F so its just bad luck(?) for Nada to be drawn as 3rd seed where San got the 4th seed Correct, but it's not bad luck for Nada. The 3rd seed is still easier (in theory) to advance from than the 4th. The 3rd seed has two possible matchups depending on how the group unfolds. Either he plays everyone once or he plays 1st once and 2nd seed tiwce to determine who moves on. The 4th seed on the other hand plays everyone or 1st seed twice and 2nd seed once. So overall it works out to be a pretty fair system | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 08 2011 04:16 Sky101 wrote: No I don't think his decision making was good at all in several instances. I managed to catch the games (vs oGsMC and 1 game vs Inca) and I was screaming in my head many times "What the hell are you doing?" before the many times he decided to attack and terribly failed within seconds. If I could have guessed the outcome of those skirmishes, so should Nada, and if he did, well, then, you saw what happened. I never said anything about him not being one of the best, if anything I acknowledge him as the most successful and most consistent BW player of ALL TIME. In fact I was such a fan of his before seeing the games today, and I was terribly disappointed. Even though he made it through his group, I was not impressed at all. I guess that's why I prefer to watch players like SlayersBoxer and JulyZerg, whose innovations are ahead of their time. They don't have to win games to win my heart and support. Some of his attack decisions were not very good, but he's also extremely good at map control and scouting, and understands how to choke out his opponent. Against MC, the bad attack decisions cost him but MC is probably one of the few players that can match his macro ability. Still, I'm very glad to see NaDa advance and overall that was a great set of matches, and a great job by Tastosis and the observer. | ||
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Scoop
Finland482 Posts
On January 08 2011 04:29 GinDo wrote: Just say game 1 of Jully Zerg + Show Spoiler + Crazy mind games going for the fake hatch and building a bling nest on that left over creep Would've been crazy mind games had terran scouted the hatch...................... but no. Just a regular old baneling all-in but hey it's July and on top of that a Zerg player so it's awesome... Btw, love how everyone says NaDa played bad and give MC no credit like NaDa was supposed to win :D | ||
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
On January 08 2011 05:48 Zelniq wrote: lol everyone overreacts to july's baneling nest location. the thing is, terran wasn't even able to scout the hatch going up, nor did he scan july's main either. it actually made no difference..making the nest in his main would have saved him resources. or hiding the baneling nest elsewhere on the map would have achieved the same avoid-scan effect. the only reason you'd put it at your natural would be to first let him see the hatch, drive away/kill the scv, then cancel it and make baneling nest. That's exactly what I thought too, because the SCV was there catching a glimpse of that drone about to make a hatchery. The camera panned away before we could be sure if that SCV did see the drone morphing into a hatchery, but there's no reason why JulyZerg would fake an expansion if his opponent didn't even know anyway. Little mind games and stuff like that are what make JulyZerg so awesome to watch. | ||
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altered
Switzerland646 Posts
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ForTheDr3am
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rezyn8
Australia216 Posts
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Paperscraps
United States639 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On January 08 2011 07:07 altered wrote: I think its very funny to see how Artosis is so excited when a Zerg and Protoss cheeses, like July today and Tester the last time he played against Rain. Suddendly a baneling bust or a DT rush is the smartest strategy in the world. And so many people agree, while everyone hates Terrans for doing similar stuff. Well atleast they gave Rain some credit for the fake 2rax into banshee play he did in the last gsl finals. DT rush into blink stalker is not cheese, he just played it out right. And it is not similiar at all to the typical 2-rax rush seen from many terrans. Cannon rush, proxy gateway, proxy stargate. That's protoss cheese. | ||
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PikaXchU
Singapore379 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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