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Skytalker
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden671 Posts
January 04 2011 10:01 GMT
#201
On January 04 2011 18:58 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 18:54 Skytalker wrote:
On January 04 2011 18:52 bkrow wrote:
On January 04 2011 18:51 Skytalker wrote:
damn terran is so powerfull vs protoss, but really nice matches from both of them!


Please don't incite the balance talk about TvP .. because T is as powerful against P as P is against T, particularly since it got to the late game..


you just assume that the game is perfectly balanced already?


you just assume the protoss played perfectly?

Top played better overall that last game. The toss had too many sentries in the first attack, and didn't need to attack right after Top's attack failed.


I never said that the protoss played perfectly... It just seems like terran is quite powerfull against protoss..i may be wrong, its mostly a feeling i got from watching quite a lot of games (way to many really )
Jaedong HWAITING!
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
January 04 2011 10:02 GMT
#202
On January 04 2011 18:56 sleepingdog wrote:
To the actual match: TOP hit a very good timing there, not mucht Ace could do about it.


Ace screwed up by not tech switching. He had the same stubborn mentality 99.9% of protoss players have: refusing to switch between robo, twilight, and stargate because they think they maximize the cost efficiency of whatever they put down first.

Ace could have easily built a robo for an observer, then switched to stargate and void rays. Knowing TOP's marauder heavy style, that would have easily won him the game with his first attack.
Cramsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1100 Posts
January 04 2011 10:04 GMT
#203
stream down for anyone else?
"give me 20 minutes and I'll make them quiet" - MVP
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
January 04 2011 10:04 GMT
#204
On January 04 2011 18:58 Lann555 wrote:
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On January 04 2011 18:57 Highwinds wrote:
The Return of the 420's....


I never quite got the joke. What is 420 supposed to be?


420 = April 20th.

It's pretty much a joke holiday that some on drugs use. "National Marijuana Day". or at 4:20 a time.
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 04 2011 10:04 GMT
#205
On January 04 2011 18:58 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 18:57 Highwinds wrote:
The Return of the 420's....


I never quite got the joke. What is 420 supposed to be?

Here. Europeans generally don't "get it" as I've seen, which makes some sense. In short, it's a silly joke.
:O
Skytalker
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden671 Posts
January 04 2011 10:04 GMT
#206
its discontinued, starting in an hour again
Jaedong HWAITING!
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 10:08:43
January 04 2011 10:05 GMT
#207
On January 04 2011 19:02 dookudooku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 18:56 sleepingdog wrote:
To the actual match: TOP hit a very good timing there, not mucht Ace could do about it.


Ace screwed up by not tech switching. He had the same stubborn mentality 99.9% of protoss players have: refusing to switch between robo, twilight, and stargate because they think they maximize the cost efficiency of whatever they put down first.

Ace could have easily built a robo for an observer, then switched to stargate and void rays. Knowing TOP's marauder heavy style, that would have easily won him the game with his first attack.


Another thing is Ace easily had enough sentries to hold off any attack during the transition phase. But like most Protoss players, he's either too chicken or doesn't have enough practice with the transition. Actually the same thing applies to Terran and Zerg players.

That's what separates the top 5 players from the rest of the pros: the ability to smoothly transition tech without putting themselves at risk of a timing attack from the opponent.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 04 2011 10:07 GMT
#208
On January 04 2011 19:00 Skytalker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 18:56 bkrow wrote:
On January 04 2011 18:54 Skytalker wrote:
On January 04 2011 18:52 bkrow wrote:
On January 04 2011 18:51 Skytalker wrote:
damn terran is so powerfull vs protoss, but really nice matches from both of them!


Please don't incite the balance talk about TvP .. because T is as powerful against P as P is against T, particularly since it got to the late game..


you just assume that the game is perfectly balanced already?


The game will never be perfectly balanced.. but you pretty much said wow T>P .. which is bullshit. If the game goes on that long and P techs properly, it is gg for Terran. He got Collossus late and then got stuck on them even after seeing mass viking.. If Ace won the song would be different..


I just expressed my feeling that terran seem very powerful against protoss. And your statement that they are equally powerful is just as subjective as mine



I understand that; my issue was less about your statement and more about you just said "wow T>P" without anything else to it.. there is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but you can't just go "yep T>P, no reason, just is" .. anyway off to ladder a bit before code S cheers
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
January 04 2011 10:10 GMT
#209
I've got to say, I find this structure significantly less compelling than the original GSL's.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
January 04 2011 10:10 GMT
#210
Doesn't TOP speak english, I thought he does
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
January 04 2011 10:13 GMT
#211
On January 04 2011 19:05 dookudooku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 19:02 dookudooku wrote:
On January 04 2011 18:56 sleepingdog wrote:
To the actual match: TOP hit a very good timing there, not mucht Ace could do about it.


Ace screwed up by not tech switching. He had the same stubborn mentality 99.9% of protoss players have: refusing to switch between robo, twilight, and stargate because they think they maximize the cost efficiency of whatever they put down first.

Ace could have easily built a robo for an observer, then switched to stargate and void rays. Knowing TOP's marauder heavy style, that would have easily won him the game with his first attack.


Another thing is Ace easily had enough sentries to hold off any attack during the transition phase. But like most Protoss players, he's either too chicken or doesn't have enough practice with the transition. Actually the same thing applies to Terran and Zerg players.

That's what separates the top 5 players from the rest of the pros: the ability to smoothly transition tech without putting themselves at risk of a timing attack from the opponent.


Yeah, it's a tough call to make on that map though, when terran is harassing with drop ships and banshees and his army is right across the street. Not to mention the fact that it's win or wait till code A qualifiers next month pressuring him into playing conservative. Hell, I still chicken out on ladder lol.
I deadlift for Aiur
chanpa
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 10:19:03
January 04 2011 10:15 GMT
#212
When I tried to watch I got:
Cannot connect to the streaming server. Make sure you are connected to the internet and not behind a firewall.
When I watched yesterday it worked without a problem. Anyone what causes this and what I can do to fix? My windows firewall is off and I have no other firewall.. Haven't changed anything since yesterady when it worked. Any help would be appreciated before the Code S! (I already posted on gomtv.net but no answer)
CHANPALiZER
PheNOM_
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States417 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 10:22:55
January 04 2011 10:22 GMT
#213
On January 04 2011 19:15 chanpa wrote:
When I tried to watch I got:
Cannot connect to the streaming server. Make sure you are connected to the internet and not behind a firewall.
When I watched yesterday it worked without a problem. Anyone what causes this and what I can do to fix? My windows firewall is off and I have no other firewall.. Haven't changed anything since yesterady when it worked. Any help would be appreciated before the Code S! (I already posted on gomtv.net but no answer)


Which stream are you watching? The HQ stream? What I do is try all the streams if the HQ doesn't work and check the HQ one every like 5 or 10mins... Ya I know it sucks. I watched the first game on the Free SQ then the last 2 on HQ. It's just hit and miss....

Hope this helps...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184006
chanpa
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden51 Posts
January 04 2011 10:23 GMT
#214
Meh. I tried both SQ and HQ got same from both
CHANPALiZER
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 04 2011 10:29 GMT
#215
Looks like I'll be gladly giving up sleep to watch Boxer play tonight!
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
January 04 2011 10:38 GMT
#216
On January 04 2011 19:15 chanpa wrote:
When I tried to watch I got:
Cannot connect to the streaming server. Make sure you are connected to the internet and not behind a firewall.
When I watched yesterday it worked without a problem. Anyone what causes this and what I can do to fix? My windows firewall is off and I have no other firewall.. Haven't changed anything since yesterady when it worked. Any help would be appreciated before the Code S! (I already posted on gomtv.net but no answer)


Are you connected directly to your modem via Ethernet? If you get the same message, restart your computer and try again. I used to get that problem and somehow a reboot fixed it.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
January 04 2011 10:38 GMT
#217
interview of top done
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42bsk
Profile Joined November 2010
29 Posts
January 04 2011 10:38 GMT
#218
On January 04 2011 19:10 Corrupted wrote:
I've got to say, I find this structure significantly less compelling than the original GSL's.


Agreed, bo1 just leaves a sour taste in my mouth :/
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
January 04 2011 10:42 GMT
#219
On January 04 2011 19:38 42bsk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 19:10 Corrupted wrote:
I've got to say, I find this structure significantly less compelling than the original GSL's.


Agreed, bo1 just leaves a sour taste in my mouth :/


Yeah...it is unsatisfying.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
January 04 2011 10:42 GMT
#220
On January 04 2011 19:38 CanucksJC wrote:
interview of top done


Thanks for your work as usual, I like reading interviews
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
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