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debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
December 18 2010 12:37 GMT
#4401
I wonder why MC didn't make any phoenix on game 2 to lift those tanks. Well, he won anyway
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
December 18 2010 12:38 GMT
#4402
On December 18 2010 21:30 GhostFall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 21:23 mcc wrote:
On December 18 2010 21:01 GhostFall wrote:
fyi
in the average game of football, the ball is in motion only 12 minutes per game.

the more you know.

if you don't believe me watch a game and measure the time the football is in motion.

I won't measure it, but I don't believe you. Football game has 90 minutes including pauses. When not paused ball is on the move definitely more than 50 percent of time, I don't think there is 65 minutes of pauses in footbal game, so ....

Anyway I loved the finals. MC was definitely better, even in the game he lost his skill looked much better, that in itself says a lot. As for people complaining about long pauses, just look at some other sports, the filler there takes often much more time. If you still don't like it, just watch VODs and not live. And I loved his "BM", i take it as all in good fun, whether he means it like that ot not.



thats like saying, the world is flat, im not going to check, but the world is flat.

MEASURE IT YOU LAZY POS.

heres an example.

http://joshmadison.com/article/actual-football-play-time-during-super-bowl-xliv/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704281204575002852055561406.html

Your analogy is worse that your comprehension skills. Seems your only skill is cursing.
It was more like you saying world is flat, and me saying I won't give you comprehensive proof I will just point out this few things that make your statement seem unreasonable.

As for measuring it, one game would not be ebough, I would have to mesaure big representative sample , I am not willing to waste my time on that.

But why I criticized your comprehension skills, if you actually read my post, you would have probably noticed that I thought you were talking about football as in soccer whereas you were talking about football as in handegg. So it seems we are not in factual disagreement, you are just raging lazy .... .
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
December 18 2010 12:49 GMT
#4403
I was like "holy shit the football is only in motion for 12 minutes per game" Then I realised he was talking about "American football" and I just laughed. Silly americans
Dead girls don't say no.
Eufra
Profile Joined September 2010
France47 Posts
December 18 2010 12:55 GMT
#4404
On December 18 2010 21:24 PlaGuE_R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 21:02 Eufra wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:52 Eko200 wrote:
Why are people comparing MC to Huk? They are on completely different levels of skill and not just cause one is Korean.

People like heroes.

To the whiners or white knights of TL, do you REALLY think you can debate right after a final ? Seriously, this thread is just a flood of "LOL GG PROTOSS" or "PROTOSS NEED A NERF". This game is still young, give Blizzard some time to adjust (avoided the word "balance") it.

Still waiting for a section where only top / good / serious (pick what you want) players could write and answer each other to read interresting things.
Anyway, thanks to the translators and generally TL for the coverage this year, hope we will see something more interresting in 2k11.


you make sure to avoid the word balance, but then you specifically call attention to balance by precising that you avoided the word balance? counter productive imo

YOU see it. I don't.
For those who were lost.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 18 2010 12:57 GMT
#4405
On December 18 2010 21:49 Sqq wrote:
I was like "holy shit the football is only in motion for 12 minutes per game" Then I realised he was talking about "American football" and I just laughed. Silly americans


LOL I did exactly the same thing, except I didn't believe it for a second. I'm pretty sure in real football, the ball is in very nearly constant motion.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 18 2010 12:58 GMT
#4406
On December 18 2010 21:37 debasers wrote:
I wonder why MC didn't make any phoenix on game 2 to lift those tanks. Well, he won anyway


He was busy making every other tech unit for fun.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 13:10:44
December 18 2010 13:08 GMT
#4407
MC is obviously a very good player but PvT is very much in Protoss favor. I honestly cannot see any Terran winning at this level until Blizzard patches the game.

The matchup is broken and has been for months. Protoss refuse to see it and skilled Terrans managed to hide it by abusing MMM. Now when that no longer works Terran has nothing to transition to = they lose the game.


Refreshe
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
December 18 2010 13:12 GMT
#4408
On December 18 2010 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
MC is obviously a very good player but PvT is very much in Protoss favor. I honestly cannot see any Terran winning at this level until Blizzard patches the game.

The matchup is broken and has been for months. Protoss refuse to see it and skilled Terrans managed to hide it by abusing MMM. Now when that no longer works Terran has nothing to transition to = they lose the game.





I'm sorry, but Rain is just a terrible player. He kept getting supply blocked, which may have been the nerves, but his siege tank upgrade was way too late in the first game. His scv micro was pretty horrible in that steppes game as well.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 13:14:23
December 18 2010 13:13 GMT
#4409
On December 18 2010 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
MC is obviously a very good player but PvT is very much in Protoss favor. I honestly cannot see any Terran winning at this level until Blizzard patches the game.

The matchup is broken and has been for months. Protoss refuse to see it and skilled Terrans managed to hide it by abusing MMM. Now when that no longer works Terran has nothing to transition to = they lose the game.




Ok mr.goldleague. Seriously, stop crying so many terran tears, the matchup is just fine. "the matchup is borken and has been for months", you clearly have no idea about balance when you use the term BROKEN to describe tvp.
longdivision
Profile Joined December 2010
United States170 Posts
December 18 2010 13:14 GMT
#4410
GGs. I would like to have seen a closer series but Rain put up a good fight nonetheless.

To people flaming Rain for losing game 4 on Steppes: MC's previous two opponents also failed to defend against early zealots from 1 gate.
Jinro @ Steppes of War
MK/Foxer @ Blistering Sands
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45769 Posts
December 18 2010 13:17 GMT
#4411
On December 18 2010 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
MC is obviously a very good player but PvT is very much in Protoss favor. I honestly cannot see any Terran winning at this level until Blizzard patches the game.

The matchup is broken and has been for months. Protoss refuse to see it and skilled Terrans managed to hide it by abusing MMM. Now when that no longer works Terran has nothing to transition to = they lose the game.


Wow. I guess we're going to see a lot of this nonsense, now that a Protoss won. The statistics show that the match-up is fairly-balanced (though I'm pretty sure that T is slightly ahead), but Protoss is definitely not all-around stronger than Terran lol.

Our Protoss player was better than your Terran player. That doesn't imply race imbalance, just skill. I'm fairly certain that general race advantages move from one race to the other as you go from the early game to the mid-game to the late game.

Anyways, I'm extremely happy that MC beat Rain, as expected
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
December 18 2010 13:20 GMT
#4412
On December 18 2010 20:58 uHu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 19:18 Scrumdidlyumptious wrote:
LOL
I rofled so hard. xD

omfg, LOL

That is just...pure gold. Genius.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
babishh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada965 Posts
December 18 2010 13:24 GMT
#4413
totally forgot it was today :s if anyone has a youtube link of the shoutcast before it gets removed...
twitch.tv/babishh
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 13:30:49
December 18 2010 13:27 GMT
#4414
As someone on TheWind's stream said, when a pro player does well, his race is immediately ridiculously overpowered and must be nerfed right away, else the game remain utterly broken and unplayable.

Terran gets off a nice EMP, or shatters an army with tanks? NERF!
Zerg outmacros and swarms? NERF THEM!
oGsMC plays? NERF PROTOSS!

And in answer to the guy who asked why MC didn't make Pheonix to lift the tanks - it's because he's MC. He could build nothing but observers and warp prisms and still break the contain.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
December 18 2010 13:32 GMT
#4415
On December 18 2010 22:08 MockHamill wrote:
MC is obviously a very good player but PvT is very much in Protoss favor. I honestly cannot see any Terran winning at this level until Blizzard patches the game.

The matchup is broken and has been for months. Protoss refuse to see it and skilled Terrans managed to hide it by abusing MMM. Now when that no longer works Terran has nothing to transition to = they lose the game.





"At this level?"

Is that a level only consisting of Rain and MC?

Apart from MC's game there haven't been much indication that Terran is at a disadvantage. Just like Terran seemed to be at an advantage in season 1 and 2 if you disregard one single other player in each of the two seasons.

People pay way too much attention to who wins the GSL. Overall representation in the later stages of the tournament is a better indication of imbalance - results from tournaments and ladders all over the world is an even better indiciation.
I
Srule
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada181 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 13:37:57
December 18 2010 13:33 GMT
#4416
protoss is so OP. it was more of a race with then skill. If toss didnt have storm, colosis, or other OP tech units terran might be able to compete but still the gateway units with forcfield support would own.

It's a sad day in SC when the better player lost just because of his race. And it happens to me all the time on the ladder too!

User was temp banned for this post.
Samus
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia47 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 13:38:05
December 18 2010 13:37 GMT
#4417
The matchup is just broken (PvT)
Terran has to end the game early or they'll lose.
Rain was probably going to lose anyways regardless of his race, Made alot of noobie mistakes.
Pulled off some nice tactics though on certain maps.

User was warned for this post
Engines are screaming
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 18 2010 13:37 GMT
#4418
On December 18 2010 22:33 Srule wrote:
protoss is so OP. it was more of a race with then skill. If toss didnt have storm, colosis, or other OP tech units terran might be able to compete but still the gateway units with forcfield support would own.

It's a sad day in SC when the better player lost just because of his race.


I dunno. I mean, in between the time from getting gateway units to getting MASSIVELY GAS HEAVY UNITS THAT REQUIRE MORE THAN ONE BASE, Terran usually should be doing stuff. Like pushing. Or dropping. Or winning perhaps.

That's like saying "Man, I know your late game is stronger than mine, and even though I have the tools to keep you from the late game, I'm going to call imbalance when I do not use those tools properly and lose".
Yargh
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
December 18 2010 13:39 GMT
#4419
I honestly hope most of these whine posts are actually just trolls and/or sarcasm....
hewtrain
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia89 Posts
December 18 2010 13:40 GMT
#4420
On December 18 2010 22:33 Srule wrote:
protoss is so OP. it was more of a race with then skill. If toss didnt have storm, colosis, or other OP tech units terran might be able to compete but still the gateway units with forcfield support would own.

It's a sad day in SC when the better player lost just because of his race. And it happens to me all the time on the ladder too!



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