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[GSL] S3 Ro4 Day 2 - Page 122
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Paer
Sweden121 Posts
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? The aliens that rigged the games are making a special guest appearance? | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? Bets anyone? I'm gonna bet on honorary stuff for 3/4th place this season. | ||
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Bogeyman
Sweden307 Posts
On December 10 2010 21:41 psycow wrote: Jinro should've pulled out one of the standard Terran cheeses like Banshee rush, bunker rush, or SCV all-ins. In fact, the only game that was close today was when he did just that (Thor rush). Today's pattern: Jinro expands first --> Lose My point exactly. All he could have done is cheese. (Or does anyone have a better answer?) He didn't have a chance in a standard game, but I simply can't accept the fact that MC is that much better that he supposed to crush Jinro in game 2 mainly because of "amazing forcefields" (which for a top-tier player like MC is pretty much the standard forcefield use). Is "amazing forcefields" supposed to be über alles? | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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Brown Boy
Canada39 Posts
Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but after waking up in the middle of the night to watch the games I'm kind of hooked and it would be awesome to see a 3rd place match. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? I logged on just to post that tweet. I'm very curious. The fact that he says it's a surprise for foreign viewers tickles my fancy. GSL for foreigners only?!?!?!?! | ||
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Zaka
Netherlands372 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? It means that there will be a surprise. | ||
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Huckleuro
United Kingdom294 Posts
Why are so many people confused or claiming that Jinro couldnt win unless he used cheese? MC is just superior, as much as it pains me to say it. "He didnt make enough stuff." - Day[9] Jinro was not aggressive enough, he did not build enough marauders lol. | ||
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Quesa
United States304 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? Jinro co-casting and Artosis back on the ultra comphy stool! | ||
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? 3./4. Place will be on stage too at ceremony or something like that maybe. very good tease you got there  | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? rofl at John, as upsets as many are(im not really, still proud of my swedish hero <3) i can say 100% sure that everyone will still tune in to the GSL finals ^^ and the people who won't because Jinro didn't win are liars | ||
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ZeNd0kUn
United States331 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:46 Bogeyman wrote: I think Jinro should have applied some early pressure and basically get more units before expanding. MC was pretty vulnerable before he got warp gate tech and a number of stalkers. If Jinro attacked he would have defended well with sentries and zealots but it would have kind of made MC's attack come longer and later. In game 3, the reaper somehow didn't see the stargate? Was it too early? Against Choya it was that reaper that scouted DT's and made him prepared against them.My point exactly. All he could have done is cheese. (Or does anyone have a better answer?) He didn't have a chance in a standard game, but I simply can't accept the fact that MC is that much better that he supposed to crush Jinro in game 2 mainly because of "amazing forcefields" (which for a top-tier player like MC is pretty much the standard forcefield use). Is "amazing forcefields" supposed to be über alles? Basically MC plays aggressively in the opening, if it doesn't win outright he still transitions well. To play aggressively in the opening you need more units than your opponent has and to defend it well you need as much units as your opponent has and position well. Basically I feel the timings of MC and the way he micro's just were too strong. Marineking couldn't apply his own aggression when MC was being aggressive but still the one who was more aggressive won in the end. I guess you need to be aggressive and active against this type of play. The foreign style of play is pretty much I'm gonna macro up .. you also macro up and we will clash in midgame and see who wins there. In Korea, it's more like I will try to kill you early .. if you surivive I will kill you later. And usually, not many survive. It's when those 2 mentalities and styles clash we see a macro game in korea ( eg kyrix vs marine king and MC vs marineking game 4 ). Basically what I'm trying to say is .. you have to nullify aggression with aggression either defensively or attacking first .. when those to cancel each other out .. it transitions to midgame and lategames. Otherwise it just doesn't get to that stage of the game. With this in mind, I feel we will see some good games from MC and Rain .. both have got that early aggression, timing attack mindsets and if they can cancel each other's early aggresion out we will see Macro games but if not, we will see early wins. That's just how thing's are rolling with their playstyles. It's the state of the game. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? What's his twitter? | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? 4v4 showmatch between Huk, Jinro, Haypro, Ret and Idra, Sen, Torch and John? | ||
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drlame
Sweden574 Posts
On December 10 2010 23:03 SmoKim wrote: rofl at John, as upsets as many are(im not really, still proud of my swedish hero <3) i can say 100% sure that everyone will still tune in to the GSL finals ^^ and the people who won't because Jinro didn't win are liars Since MC plays with the Liquid guys he will probably do some tribute to them. Anway: Called it. Sure Jinro had an amazing run with fantastic games, but in my opinion his opponents was mediocre at best. MC put a brutal end to the Cinderella-story, much to my delight (not that I don't like Jinro, I just don't want a mirror in the finals and I want the better player in there too). | ||
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Bogeyman
Sweden307 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:56 Huckleuro wrote: Before the game people (in the know) generally believed MC was slightly better at this point in time than Jinro and that his PvT is extremely strong. Why are so many people confused or claiming that Jinro couldnt win unless he used cheese? MC is just superior, as much as it pains me to say it. "He didnt make enough stuff." - Day[9] Jinro was not aggressive enough, he did not build enough marauders lol. Overall I agree with you, I just think that game 2 shouldn't have been that one-sided. MC didn't do anything special that game, other than nifty fast sentries and good control and macro (and probably being on top of what Jinro was doing, so he knew if banshees would come). I'm completely fine with him winning with that attack, but not so overwhelmingly. Someone else pointed out that ghosts would've been good, and I would really like it if ghosts became a staple unit in the TvP match-up even before HT need to be dealt with. But personally I feel like they eat into a Terrans economy too much for it to be used that widely. Maybe if ghost cloaking was cheaper to research, but alas I shouldn't get started on balance changes. | ||
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
Someone else pointed out that ghosts would've been good, and I would really like it if ghosts became a staple unit in the TvP match-up even before HT need to be dealt with. But personally I feel like they eat into a Terrans economy too much for it to be used that widely. Maybe if ghost cloaking was cheaper to research, but alas I shouldn't get started on balance changes. You can't really, because if the protoss goes collosus you are screwed. | ||
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Rubyfire
Germany186 Posts
On December 10 2010 22:42 Paer wrote: John writes on twitter "I know many of u r upset cuz jinro lost but you should still watch the final. There will be huge surprise for foreign viewers.not my speech." What does this mean? This is obviously going to be a guest appearance of Poopfeast420 because he digs this guy so much. :x | ||
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fean0r
Germany117 Posts
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