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raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1461
Wow, so much zerg rage. Why can't you admit that Nestea lost because his poor micro and weak early decision making (he made a queen in steppes, wtf?). He's a good macro player, but that is not always what you need. And don't expect terrans not putting an agression early game. If you let zerg expand, and not put pressure on him, after 10 minutes its like 30 scv vs 60 drones.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1462
Seems like Artosis is back on the FruitDealer bandwagon after completely writing him off before this season began.
pLaNeT_302
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1463
On December 06 2010 20:28 Dagobert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:25 insult wrote:
Oh my god Rain just broke the rules. :/ You can't just play to win like that with money on the line. :/ You must listen to fanboys for strats. :/

That's not the point, it's a spectator sport. If all spectators get to see is these bullshit allins, nobody's gonna watch.

A spectator sport? its a game dude and there playin for money. LOL a spectator sport this aint tennis son. If you watch or not there gonna play.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1464
On December 06 2010 20:29 Kira.Yami wrote:
I dont like this rain guy, judging from the interview, I wouldnt wanna be friends with him. and Nestea deserved to win instead, losing to this All In loser; disappointing.


Don't worry, he's on a close knit pro team, I don't think he's be disappointed that you don't wanna be friends with him
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1465
Sorry for noob question, but why are people calling Rain the worse player even though he won? I'm confused, if you win, doesn't it mean you are better?
lfs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 11:32:37
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1466
On December 06 2010 20:31 eviltomahawk wrote:
Poopfeast420 will win the next GSL. You heard it hear first, folks.

It's funny how just a few months ago, macro-based Terran mech play was deemed imba against Zerg. Then Zerg learned to adapt and Terrans deemed that Zerg was imba. Then marine SCV all-ins come in and everyone says Terran is imba, at least in the early game.


He is a bronze league Terran, so not likely.

edit: although if he can 2 rax, it could be possible.
Flatha
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada45 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1467
Game 3 wasn't an all-in. It's early marine bunker aggression that all zergs should be expecting from Terran players. Nestea could have held that off but he made a critical mistake of letting that SCV live with 1 hit away from death, as well as not pulling drones to bring down that bunker earlier. It's is REALLY sad to see Nestea go down like that but he made a crucial mistake at the wrong time and it cost him.
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1468
i really dont get how every terran whiner can overlook jinros amazing games with pure terran macro overwhelming the zerg.
i guess they are just supermad because the only way they can win on ladder is 2rax/2base allin because they don't know how to play a good game
NesTea <3
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1469
This lentil and smoky bacon soup is well savory.

Fruitdealer fighting!
zivac
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia389 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1470
cmmon hongun!
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1471
On December 06 2010 20:31 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 20:29 zemiron wrote:
On December 06 2010 20:24 Mainland wrote:
On December 06 2010 20:22 KingRajesh wrote:
Screw these cheesy builds.

Marines need a serious nerf. Slower movement, slower firing rate, or lesser health.

Stim also needs a longer build time.



This is not a balance issue. This is a build order issue. This kind of patch-hungry attitude is a very bad part of the SC2 community. It's limiting innovation. Zergs need to understand that hatch first against an aggressive Terran who 2-barracks, is not a viable build.


Pros keep telling you that it is the only viable build. I have a feeling that they know better than you. Just sayin'.


July almost never hatches first. Is he bad?


People have not 2 raxed July in the GSL

Your argument = fail

User was warned for this post
lol.Donkament
Profile Joined June 2010
Malta50 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1472
HONGUNPRIME PLS WIN FOR BROTOSS
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1473
I'm fucking sick of idiots questioning hatch first after Idra and Ret tell you that hatch first is a must.

Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1474
On December 06 2010 20:28 FabledIntegral wrote:
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On December 06 2010 20:23 LoLAdriankat wrote:
I'm just absolutely fucking pissed off right now.

Nestea losing to a terrible all-inning player while noobs who think they're good are trying to explain that 2 rax counter hatch first.

Fuck that noise, fucking seriously.


Just because it's an all-in does not mean it doesn't counter hatch first. If Nestea really is that strong in the management game he has no reason for not building a second spine on blistering. Many Terrans have resorted to all-ins simply because they haven't found any solution for the current Zerg late game (not saying one doesn't exist, but in the current metagame trend, once Zerg gets to late game it will win. Terrans either need to adapt, or all-in. Considering GOMTV does not give players much time in between matches, there is little incentive for players to innovate or try new things. Rather, they use their precious time to practice games and get to the next match.

What would you do in their situation? Try to play out a macro game when you're consistently losing in practice, or all-in when your chances are slightly over 50% at winning. As described above, Terrans hardly have enough time in between games to try something new. Props to Jinro, but I don't think Moon was a good player. He wasn't even solid in the matches he won.


Quality post.

I think there are a lot of Terrans who would rather play a long macro game , but since there is no Solution to the Lategame Zerg army(that hasn"t been Discovered) , Allin is Really the only solution so far.

Quoting Nestea"s Words "This game needs a Bonjwa"
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1475
Whatever you guys think, rain still won with superior play. It's not his fault... don't hate the player. He used a winning strat and it worked. Nestea did not play the xel naga game correctly imo. The battle at his natural was insanely close, had he had built 2 spines in front of his hatch instead of 1 he would have held his expansion quite easily...
AnyChance
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany19 Posts
December 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1476
It's time for the FruitDealer guys!
I'm not affraid, because I know there are thousands of Liquidians out there.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 06 2010 11:33 GMT
#1477
Hey guys, who wants to revert SCV HP back to 60?! :o
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
December 06 2010 11:33 GMT
#1478
And cue Artosis switching who he thinks the best Zerg in the tournament is to FruitDealer
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
December 06 2010 11:33 GMT
#1479
On December 06 2010 20:26 Dente wrote:
I just hope that blizzard doesn't nerf the marine..


dont worry they are buffing bunkers instead ~


so this is what i get up for. a mediocre player cheesing its way into ro4. dont even want to talk about balance,maps or whatever. but from a spectator pov its pure bullshit. i rather watch noobs getting stomped in ridiculous ways like in gsl1 then this crap which happens in like 60% of T matches in gsl3...
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
rally_point
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada458 Posts
December 06 2010 11:33 GMT
#1480
Fruitdealer: the last hope for zerg once again!

The three things I want in the finals (obviously I can't have all 3):
-Fruitdealer
-A Protoss
-Jinro
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