On November 08 2010 06:30 DrainX wrote:
Kind of funny if Jinro wins this. Largest tour so far in Europe was won by a Swede (MorroW) and as far as I know this is the largest US tour. (Blizzcon might have been bigger? Dunno.) MorroW wasn't even supposed to play in the IEM but got a chance in the last second. Jinro doesn't even live in the US and is one of very few Europeans playing there.

Kind of strange how some Swede always seems to drop in out of nowhere and win unexpectedly in the largest non korean tours

Sweden fighting! :D

AzurewinD

United States569 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:30 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Does Day9 have a hair growth issue?

He has hair on his chest. Whats the issue?

Oh right, he's more manly than you. I see.

Iodem

United States1173 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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Let's hope for some long games involving nukes, HTs, Colossi, Carriers, Motherships, and Cattlebruisers.

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On November 08 2010 06:26 Firereaver wrote:

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I fixed your post.

Slow Motion

United States6960 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:30 Doko wrote:
This format would be so much better if they got rid of the extended series rule and just made it so the LB finalist has to win 2 best of 3's instead of being down games in a whole series.

No, that is way too reasonable and fair. Can't have that.

Endorsed

Netherlands1221 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:31 Risen wrote:

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Yup, he makes a very good point. Extended match play is just so bad >.<

Well.....

It works for Halo !

Huko

United States324 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

#4308

On November 08 2010 06:29 mierin wrote:

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This is such bullshit. What?

You basically just defended MLG rules.... If it wasn't extended series it would be harder for TT1, the extended series helps TT1 in this situation.

sYstim

Canada161 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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where in Canada is tt1 from?

analogkensho

United States358 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:28 Firebolt145 wrote:

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I'm hoping that MLG take SC2 more seriously than WoW.

We would hope, wouldn't we?

I mean, whatever, it's the system they use, it is fair in some respects. I just miss the days when more people ran round-robin single elim' tournaments.

HydroXy

United States513 Posts

November 07 2010 21:31 GMT

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The problem with the MLG poll:
I think TT1 could win in two BO3's, but I think in the extended series Jinro can take 2 games off of him first.

Firereaver

India1701 Posts

November 07 2010 21:32 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:30 Aelionz wrote:
Off topic!

Could 1 of the finalist mute his ingame sound, and still hear day9 and j wheat (something) ?

Why has noone bought this up? THIS is the biggest point of dubious play I have for this torney. The players can totally hear the commentators. Are you freakin kidding me?

zoLo

United States5896 Posts

November 07 2010 21:32 GMT

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ROFL @ the "IdrA lost" banner

DoubleLariat

Canada190 Posts

November 07 2010 21:32 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:26 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

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On November 08 2010 06:23 humblegar wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:17 Count9 wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:09 unindel wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:07 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:01 Numy wrote:

On November 08 2010 06:00 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Even the wording of their poll is wrong. The extended series rule is 100% fair... whether or not they want to use it is a different story. But there's certainly nothing more fair/unfair about it than without the extended series rule.

How is it 100% fair? Please explain your reasoning. As I view it , it is very unfair for any player that does not face the same opponent in LB as in WB. I'm sure everyone would love to have extra chances.

If we ignore all past results then that would mean for the sake of consistency you'd have to remove the winner bracket's champion having an advantage over the loser's bracket, no? If not, why draw the line there and not simply for beating an earlier opponent? Why does that logic apply there but not later?

The difference there is that the player from the WB has never been eliminated from the tournament, whereas the LB has been eliminated once. In order to be taken out of a double elimination tournament, you should be eliminated twice.

Then why play double elimination? Why not make it single elimination to remove all problems that stem from these arguments? Their system punishes losers. Lost to somebody earlier? Punishment, better step your game up. Find yourself in the losers bracket? Punishment, better step your game up. MLG likes to favor winners.

Cause double elimination without extended series in LB makes perfect sense.

PainUser lost 2-1 to Jinro in WB, he "lost" 2-1 in LB to Tyler. He's still in the tournament. This is what you're calling 100% fair.

lol, how is this shit hard to understand? There is no fair answer to this question. It doesn't exist. The only difference is I'm smart enough to look to other problems that come from the alternative method of double elimination. I honestly don't favor one way or the other. They both make sense and they both have strengths/weaknesses.

You are looking for an answer to a question that nobody cares about.

They both had one loss and should be out after the second loss. It is not fair to the other players that painuser is still in the tournament after two eliminations, just because he happened to meet Tyler again. How hard is this concept to grasp?

I understand your complaint. Let's say Tyler had won their second meeting 2-1 and eliminated Painuser. Their final record for the tournament is Painuser beating Tyler 3 games and losing 2. It's fair that with a winning record he is eliminated? Neither is perfect. Deal with it.

I'm done posting on this subject since I've wasted way too many lines of text trying to explain the obvious answer of "you can't please everybody", but apparently people think you can.

ps: Go TT1

Lol. You've totally missed the complaint. It's not about Tyler or PU, it's about the other users that don't get this advantage that PU had.

But as you say, no system is perfect. Dunno, the popular opinion is against you ... so we'll see if MLG removes the extended series rule.

sjschmidt93

United States2518 Posts

November 07 2010 21:32 GMT

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On November 08 2010 06:31 AzurewinD wrote:

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He has hair on his chest. Whats the issue?

Oh right, he's more manly than you. I see.

That's more than the average man...

And have you seen his arms? He's a gorilla.