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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7321
Machine vs Incontrol finals, calling it now.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7322
On November 07 2010 10:09 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.

and that aside, some people really call everything cheese (not saying bunker rushing isn't)


People like aggression and cheese from time to time. But where complaints arise is that every game IdrA plays in a foreigner tournament (hell, arguably GSL to) is him getting cheesed. At a certain point you just want to see a standard match.

Maybe he shouldn't be such a macro-oriented player then. If someone is strong in a certain aspect, you hit him where he's weak. This is common sense. When the cheese stops working, there won't be cheese.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7323
On November 07 2010 10:09 xiaoassasin wrote:
Idra has the unfortunate distinction of being widely known as a macro player. I don't think it makes him any worse at dealing with cheese/early all-ins than other players, but it does give other players the idea that having powerful early game is the way to deal with Idra.

As is, the game is still young. All-in/cheesy strategies are still being discovered and as such, you can't really expect pro players to deal with it 100% of the time. Idra just has to keep on playing. He's a great player, and so is Select.



This is a great 1st post. Good job.
o choro é livre
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7324
On November 07 2010 10:09 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.

and that aside, some people really call everything cheese (not saying bunker rushing isn't)


People like aggression and cheese from time to time. But where complaints arise is that every game IdrA plays in a foreigner tournament (hell, arguably GSL to) is him getting cheesed. At a certain point you just want to see a standard match.


Why play standard when you know what hes gonna do?
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7325
LOL Wanna see Socke vs Sen! Totally outmined!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7326
I would so much more like to see Ret vs Jinro rather than this, oh well, go Tyler!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7327
Arrggggh need that replay of Sen vs Socke.
papercoop
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom107 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#7328
On November 07 2010 10:08 FindingPride wrote:
did he just pull a stewie? a wheeet?

yes dhay hnine always pronounces the H first in nhearly all of hwords
dont quote me on that
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7329
On November 07 2010 10:08 m0nkeyknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 09:58 Deadlyfish wrote:
If i saw a zerg FE on DQ i'd go all in cheese aswell too. Cant even blame SelecT for it, IdrA was asking for it.

What would IdrA do if he scouted a Terran expanding at 14 with no barracks? Probably go all in with cheese.

Did he even see the FE? or just notice the close positions on the map and throw that second rax down?, On the flip side idra needs to be more flexible he just loves his 2 hatch mutas :/


he didn't need to see the FE when the assumption that Idra would FE was very likely correct
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7330
On November 07 2010 10:09 xiaoassasin wrote:
Idra has the unfortunate distinction of being widely known as a macro player. I don't think it makes him any worse at dealing with cheese/early all-ins than other players, but it does give other players the idea that having powerful early game is the way to deal with Idra.

As is, the game is still young. All-in/cheesy strategies are still being discovered and as such, you can't really expect pro players to deal with it 100% of the time. Idra just has to keep on playing. He's a great player, and so is Select.

Nice first post, sir!
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7331
gonna have to watch that epic socke vs. sen match
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7332
On November 07 2010 10:10 Deadlyfish wrote:
Please someone cheese now, i gotta get up in 4 hours. Pleeaassse


It's close position so it probably won't last long anyway.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7333
sen up 1-0
Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7334
On November 07 2010 10:07 Erandorr wrote:
tyler seems so nice

He is, Its good to have well spoken players in the pro scene.
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
Lost1
Profile Joined October 2010
45 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7335
Idra is just predicting too much and is playing too standardly. FE every single game, ofc you're gonna get cheesed. He really should scout more, especially since nobody wants to go into a long macro game against him. I've seen him lost 3 match ups in the last couple of days, every time was due to all in attacks or cheeses.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7336
On November 07 2010 10:07 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:06 Rettet181 wrote:
How did HDStarcraft do? I can't find any mention of his results.

He lost 0-2.

He's not bad though. He would've won if he was microing his units.

He lost 0-2 to KingSpades (24 seed, I dunno anything about him).
In Loser's bracket, HDStarcraft ran into some dude who didn't show, so he didn't get to play someone more on his level .
Then next in Loser's bracket, HD Starcraft ran into EG.Inka, and lost 2-0.
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7337
I have never seen Ret play, I am getting excited though. I love watching some good Zerg users.
^O^
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 01:12:16
November 07 2010 01:11 GMT
#7338
On November 07 2010 10:10 KiNGxXx wrote:
LOL Wanna see Socke vs Sen! Totally outmined!


Sounds like the kind of game Day9 would cover on his daily. Let's hope he does that.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 07 2010 01:12 GMT
#7339
On November 07 2010 10:11 stalefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:07 Erandorr wrote:
tyler seems so nice

He is, Its good to have well spoken players in the pro scene.

He actually wasn't that good mannered in BW.
pigscanfly
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore147 Posts
November 07 2010 01:12 GMT
#7340
On November 07 2010 10:01 neoenigma wrote:
Can someone name me a zerg cheese strategy that is actually HARD to defend at the pro level?

6 pool, NaDa lost to it once.
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