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neoenigma
Profile Joined October 2010
United States243 Posts
November 07 2010 01:14 GMT
#7361
Sadly, I really like when I get to watch Idra play his style. When he loses using that style, I usually REALLY enjoy those games because they are games with 2 REALLY good players. Unfortunately, most of the time we see Idra lost to players that really aren't better than he is... but pulled off some abusive cheese.

Idra can't really NOT be a macro player, because that is the only thing that really makes him great. It's really tough to root for a player that you know will never play in interesting games because people always all-in him
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 07 2010 01:14 GMT
#7362
On November 07 2010 10:10 papercoop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:08 FindingPride wrote:
did he just pull a stewie? a wheeet?

yes dhay hnine always pronounces the H first in nhearly all of hwords


I htink he does it on purpose as a kind of Cool Hwip joke.
whatsgrackalackin420
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
November 07 2010 01:14 GMT
#7363
On November 07 2010 10:12 Housemd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:10 Sewi wrote:
On November 07 2010 10:07 Moa wrote:
On November 07 2010 10:06 BroOd wrote:
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.

and that aside, some people really call everything cheese

i love a well-executed cheese, and I agree that it makes the game more interesting


Cheese keeps people honest, it is the reason you can't 14 hatch on close positions on small maps. It is a good thing for the game.


This + Keeping cheese out of the game would make it "20 minute without attack please, this is a game were you have to build a base, etc," game

Love cheesy play from time to time. If every game would be 20 minutes+ macro games, i dont think many people would have fun watching them all day/night :p



If you were to play a 25 minute MACRO game, the game would be boring, it would essentially be, make units, make more units then your opponent and you would win.

Cheese allows us to have micro from both players, where some of the true skill is shown.

indeed not been that excited watching a series as i did with select vs idra
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 07 2010 01:14 GMT
#7364
On November 07 2010 10:13 Fantistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:11 Lost1 wrote:
Idra is just predicting too much and is playing too standardly. FE every single game, ofc you're gonna get cheesed. He really should scout more, especially since nobody wants to go into a long macro game against him. I've seen him lost 3 match ups in the last couple of days, every time was due to all in attacks or cheeses.


Zergs have to FE. 1 base play is basically all-in.


But you can pool before hatch and be safer.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7365
On November 07 2010 10:13 ghostnuke1234 wrote:
Time to get from Korea to Dallas: 18+ hours
Cheese by Select in Game Three: 5 minutes

Idra ragequitting and throwing his headphones away: Priceless



Should be "Timeless" following the reasoning : P
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
IcyPringle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada210 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7366
Epic force feilds from Tyler but I think one guardian shield would have been good.
SC2: IcyPringle.137 - Terran
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7367
On November 07 2010 10:10 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:09 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On November 07 2010 10:04 Carnac wrote:
it would be boring if no one ever cheesed and everyone went for the long game all the time. the variety cheese brings to the game is needed for many reasons.

and that aside, some people really call everything cheese (not saying bunker rushing isn't)


People like aggression and cheese from time to time. But where complaints arise is that every game IdrA plays in a foreigner tournament (hell, arguably GSL to) is him getting cheesed. At a certain point you just want to see a standard match.


Why play standard when you know what hes gonna do?


I'm not blaming players for cheesing. They know they'll probably lose in a macro game against IdrA. I hold no ill will towards the players who do this; but I do find the games largely boring as a spectator since it's a foregone conclusion that there will be cheese.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7368
lol, waste of troops/FF
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7369
omfg those forcefields :o
Romanes eunt domus
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7370
Especially it s really to relate from this game to the "state of the game" while there is a 61 minute game going on in another series. It's good to see that T can still do a strong early aggression.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7371
Guess that's the end of the road for ReSpOnSe... for this time :<

Well, GGs man, can't wait for the replays and hopefully analysis of them on your stream ;o
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7372
Oh gawd sentries are so strong. Force fields are soooo abusive I'm glad to see Tyler recognize this. SO EXPLOITABLE.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7373
so tyler 1, select 2, ret 3 machine 4. i hope .
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
November 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#7374
wow a lot of cut scvs even with an expo.
Tahts halo dont worry
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
November 07 2010 01:16 GMT
#7375
On November 07 2010 10:13 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 10:13 Fantistic wrote:
On November 07 2010 10:11 Lost1 wrote:
Idra is just predicting too much and is playing too standardly. FE every single game, ofc you're gonna get cheesed. He really should scout more, especially since nobody wants to go into a long macro game against him. I've seen him lost 3 match ups in the last couple of days, every time was due to all in attacks or cheeses.


Zergs have to FE. 1 base play is basically all-in.

You have to get a second base but not necessarily before pool.


I consider hatchery 1 minute after pool to be fast expanding too.
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
November 07 2010 01:16 GMT
#7376
tyler cutting all probe production.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 07 2010 01:16 GMT
#7377
1 marauder versus protoss ball
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 01:16 GMT
#7378
GOGO NO ROBO. Colossi are sooo boring to watch, so I hope the game allows non-colossi play to be successful.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 01:18:14
November 07 2010 01:17 GMT
#7379
Why is there never a cross position metal/LT?

90% of the goddamn games today have been 1 or 2 base all in win/losses...
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
November 07 2010 01:17 GMT
#7380
On November 07 2010 10:14 schimmetje wrote:
Sigh. A "greedy" zerg? What else was he supposed to do? And it's not really punishing something if you go for the proxy blindly..

Oh well. Zerg should probably "just learn to play better" again. Show us how it's done Liquid zergies! And Jinro, I want to see more Jinro!


Get a pool before he gets his expansion. Just because 14 hatch is "standard" against terran doesn't make it greedy.
^O^
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