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On November 01 2010 20:29 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 20:26 Tx-MisfiT wrote: I'm thinking that Kyrix didn't expect Foxer to make 5-6 banshees. I just assume of course, reasoning behind him throwing down the Spire as opposed to the Hydra den. Once you get muta out, banshees are kinda useless. You need 2 hydras to beat 1 banshee (200/100 vs 150 100) and if you have less you're in trouble. Hydras also aren't very good for attacking purposes, while muta are amazing. Kyrix probably could have survived if he tranfused a little bit better because theres a big momentum shift taking out 1 more banshee and having 1 more queen live. If the muta came out kyrix had a pretty solid win if he kept his queens line solid. Thats pretty standard. Also the problem with queen hydra is that hydra have shorter range and tend to get hit first, meaning the higher DPS lower hp targets get focus fired, making them cost inefficient. I'm wondering if infestors with fungal would be out quicker than mutalisks. It takes 1 fungal+queens to elminate banshee threat because queens outrange them and the 36 damage is nothing to be scoffed at when it hits 4-5-6 targets especially when queen+tranfuse vs banshee is already balanced on a razers edge.
spire takes 200 seconds to make whereas hydra den takes 60.
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On November 01 2010 20:32 CanucksJC wrote: i'm just bitching at these ppl that cannot for whatever reason appreciate low tier aggressive games... both players are playing their hearts out, and all they can say is trololol he sux foxer micro so gosu kyrix is kwanro
Kyrix basically is Kwanro.
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On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote: Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8. LOL? Did you even watch how Foxer dismantled FD? Had nothing to do with the map.
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its the music, killing the players braincells so rapidly... we see whats remained for the matches
+ Show Spoiler +j/k, pretty entertaining series so far =D
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On November 01 2010 20:29 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 20:26 Tx-MisfiT wrote: I'm thinking that Kyrix didn't expect Foxer to make 5-6 banshees. I just assume of course, reasoning behind him throwing down the Spire as opposed to the Hydra den. Once you get muta out, banshees are kinda useless. You need 2 hydras to beat 1 banshee (200/100 vs 150 100) and if you have less you're in trouble. Hydras also aren't very good for attacking purposes, while muta are amazing. Kyrix probably could have survived if he tranfused a little bit better because theres a big momentum shift taking out 1 more banshee and having 1 more queen live. If the muta came out kyrix had a pretty solid win if he kept his queens line solid. Thats pretty standard. Also the problem with queen hydra is that hydra have shorter range and tend to get hit first, meaning the higher DPS lower hp targets get focus fired, making them cost inefficient. I'm wondering if infestors with fungal would be out quicker than mutalisks. It takes 1 fungal+queens to elminate banshee threat because queens outrange them and the 36 damage is nothing to be scoffed at when it hits 4-5-6 targets especially when queen+tranfuse vs banshee is already balanced on a razers edge.
Banshees were already on route to his base when he threw that spire down. I understand throwing down the spire, but I promise you that if he knew he was going to continue to mass them a hydra den goes down. I understand that hydras are pretty useless for attacking terran mid-game, it's certainly better than losing though. Spire takes ages to complete.
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On November 01 2010 20:33 Imagist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 20:32 CanucksJC wrote: i'm just bitching at these ppl that cannot for whatever reason appreciate low tier aggressive games... both players are playing their hearts out, and all they can say is trololol he sux foxer micro so gosu kyrix is kwanro Kyrix basically is Kwanro. 100% correcto
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On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote: Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8. Cool unsupported statement , bro.
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On November 01 2010 20:29 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 20:26 Tx-MisfiT wrote: I'm thinking that Kyrix didn't expect Foxer to make 5-6 banshees. I just assume of course, reasoning behind him throwing down the Spire as opposed to the Hydra den. Once you get muta out, banshees are kinda useless. You need 2 hydras to beat 1 banshee (200/100 vs 150 100) and if you have less you're in trouble. Hydras also aren't very good for attacking purposes, while muta are amazing. Kyrix probably could have survived if he tranfused a little bit better because theres a big momentum shift taking out 1 more banshee and having 1 more queen live. If the muta came out kyrix had a pretty solid win if he kept his queens line solid. Thats pretty standard. Also the problem with queen hydra is that hydra have shorter range and tend to get hit first, meaning the higher DPS lower hp targets get focus fired, making them cost inefficient. I'm wondering if infestors with fungal would be out quicker than mutalisks. It takes 1 fungal+queens to elminate banshee threat because queens outrange them and the 36 damage is nothing to be scoffed at when it hits 4-5-6 targets especially when queen+tranfuse vs banshee is already balanced on a razers edge.
This. Kyrix took a litlle gamble, because he knew that spire would make him gets unit that would deffend him, atack, harass, and take map control. He was close to defending at one moment, it was actualy quite closer game then what random QQers here think, but to see that, you have to be focused at watching game, instead of trolling here
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FINAL GAME?!?!?! no troll please
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On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote: Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8.
You're right, he only beat FD because of the maps then he beat SangHo because he sacrificed his firstborn to the Blood God of Starcraft.
Get over yourself already, he's shown he's an awesome player and deserves to be there.
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I'm enjoying the fast pace action. It's a nice change from the 200 v 200 armies we see altho those are awesome too.
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On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote: Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8.
Yeah...cuz Fake boxer's Rank 8 in Korea means nothing.
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I get the feeling Artosis doesn't like Terran!
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inc blue hellion drop into banshees
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Artosis' whining about zerg and terran and his huge bias used to annoy me, but now it's a little endearing.
A little embarrassing still.
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On November 01 2010 20:32 Gaxton wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 20:31 AyJay wrote: Can't believe people are calling these players cheesy. Those strategies are cheesy in no way and always have a follow-up plan. Wake the fuck up people. In this thread. Anything that defeats the player you want to win: Cheese
Unless the player you want to win suicides his army into the opponent's defenses, in which case Race X is imba. If it's a mirror the defending player is a bronze league scrub one baser. If both are on multiple bases and a split map, then it was an act of god or jetlag.
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Now people can't complain about balance they have to complain about imaginary BM and boring strats. Yay.
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This is a very entertaining series so far. I am really enjoying myself.
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![[image loading]](http://images2.memegenerator.net/foxer/ImageMacro/3413876/Zerg-picks-Scrap-Station-BANSHEES.jpg)
^^
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