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Turgor
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
November 01 2010 11:33 GMT
#1341
On November 01 2010 20:29 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:26 Tx-MisfiT wrote:
I'm thinking that Kyrix didn't expect Foxer to make 5-6 banshees. I just assume of course, reasoning behind him throwing down the Spire as opposed to the Hydra den.


Once you get muta out, banshees are kinda useless. You need 2 hydras to beat 1 banshee (200/100 vs 150 100) and if you have less you're in trouble. Hydras also aren't very good for attacking purposes, while muta are amazing. Kyrix probably could have survived if he tranfused a little bit better because theres a big momentum shift taking out 1 more banshee and having 1 more queen live. If the muta came out kyrix had a pretty solid win if he kept his queens line solid. Thats pretty standard.

Also the problem with queen hydra is that hydra have shorter range and tend to get hit first, meaning the higher DPS lower hp targets get focus fired, making them cost inefficient. I'm wondering if infestors with fungal would be out quicker than mutalisks. It takes 1 fungal+queens to elminate banshee threat because queens outrange them and the 36 damage is nothing to be scoffed at when it hits 4-5-6 targets especially when queen+tranfuse vs banshee is already balanced on a razers edge.


spire takes 200 seconds to make whereas hydra den takes 60.
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
November 01 2010 11:33 GMT
#1342
On November 01 2010 20:32 CanucksJC wrote:
i'm just bitching at these ppl that cannot for whatever reason appreciate low tier aggressive games... both players are playing their hearts out, and all they can say is trololol he sux foxer micro so gosu kyrix is kwanro


Kyrix basically is Kwanro.
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1343
On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote:
Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8.

LOL? Did you even watch how Foxer dismantled FD? Had nothing to do with the map.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
hgt1
Profile Joined October 2010
Hungary102 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1344
its the music, killing the players braincells so rapidly... we see whats remained for the matches

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k, pretty entertaining series so far =D
Tx-MisfiT
Profile Joined February 2008
United States283 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1345
On November 01 2010 20:29 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:26 Tx-MisfiT wrote:
I'm thinking that Kyrix didn't expect Foxer to make 5-6 banshees. I just assume of course, reasoning behind him throwing down the Spire as opposed to the Hydra den.


Once you get muta out, banshees are kinda useless. You need 2 hydras to beat 1 banshee (200/100 vs 150 100) and if you have less you're in trouble. Hydras also aren't very good for attacking purposes, while muta are amazing. Kyrix probably could have survived if he tranfused a little bit better because theres a big momentum shift taking out 1 more banshee and having 1 more queen live. If the muta came out kyrix had a pretty solid win if he kept his queens line solid. Thats pretty standard.

Also the problem with queen hydra is that hydra have shorter range and tend to get hit first, meaning the higher DPS lower hp targets get focus fired, making them cost inefficient. I'm wondering if infestors with fungal would be out quicker than mutalisks. It takes 1 fungal+queens to elminate banshee threat because queens outrange them and the 36 damage is nothing to be scoffed at when it hits 4-5-6 targets especially when queen+tranfuse vs banshee is already balanced on a razers edge.


Banshees were already on route to his base when he threw that spire down. I understand throwing down the spire, but I promise you that if he knew he was going to continue to mass them a hydra den goes down. I understand that hydras are pretty useless for attacking terran mid-game, it's certainly better than losing though. Spire takes ages to complete.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1346
On November 01 2010 20:33 Imagist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:32 CanucksJC wrote:
i'm just bitching at these ppl that cannot for whatever reason appreciate low tier aggressive games... both players are playing their hearts out, and all they can say is trololol he sux foxer micro so gosu kyrix is kwanro


Kyrix basically is Kwanro.

100% correcto
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1347
On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote:
Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8.

Cool unsupported statement , bro.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1348
On November 01 2010 20:29 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:26 Tx-MisfiT wrote:
I'm thinking that Kyrix didn't expect Foxer to make 5-6 banshees. I just assume of course, reasoning behind him throwing down the Spire as opposed to the Hydra den.


Once you get muta out, banshees are kinda useless. You need 2 hydras to beat 1 banshee (200/100 vs 150 100) and if you have less you're in trouble. Hydras also aren't very good for attacking purposes, while muta are amazing. Kyrix probably could have survived if he tranfused a little bit better because theres a big momentum shift taking out 1 more banshee and having 1 more queen live. If the muta came out kyrix had a pretty solid win if he kept his queens line solid. Thats pretty standard.

Also the problem with queen hydra is that hydra have shorter range and tend to get hit first, meaning the higher DPS lower hp targets get focus fired, making them cost inefficient. I'm wondering if infestors with fungal would be out quicker than mutalisks. It takes 1 fungal+queens to elminate banshee threat because queens outrange them and the 36 damage is nothing to be scoffed at when it hits 4-5-6 targets especially when queen+tranfuse vs banshee is already balanced on a razers edge.



This.
Kyrix took a litlle gamble, because he knew that spire would make him gets unit that would deffend him, atack, harass, and take map control. He was close to defending at one moment, it was actualy quite closer game then what random QQers here think, but to see that, you have to be focused at watching game, instead of trolling here
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
Origiral
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)106 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1349
FINAL GAME?!?!?! no troll please
hello
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1350
On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote:
Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8.


You're right, he only beat FD because of the maps then he beat SangHo because he sacrificed his firstborn to the Blood God of Starcraft.

Get over yourself already, he's shown he's an awesome player and deserves to be there.
Cloud92684
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States236 Posts
November 01 2010 11:34 GMT
#1351
I'm enjoying the fast pace action. It's a nice change from the 200 v 200 armies we see altho those are awesome too.
www.nothinggaming.com
zanbo123
Profile Joined August 2010
68 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1352
On November 01 2010 20:33 Frunkis wrote:
Fake boxer should have been put away against fruit dealer if he didn't get such lucky map draws. Neither of these guys should really be in the ro8.


Yeah...cuz Fake boxer's Rank 8 in Korea means nothing.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1353
I get the feeling Artosis doesn't like Terran!
derpmods
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1354
BOXAWRRRRRRRRR
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1355
inc blue hellion drop into banshees
EGM guides me
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1356
Artosis' whining about zerg and terran and his huge bias used to annoy me, but now it's a little endearing.

A little embarrassing still.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1357
On November 01 2010 20:32 Gaxton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 20:31 AyJay wrote:
Can't believe people are calling these players cheesy. Those strategies are cheesy in no way and always have a follow-up plan. Wake the fuck up people.


In this thread.
Anything that defeats the player you want to win: Cheese


Unless the player you want to win suicides his army into the opponent's defenses, in which case Race X is imba. If it's a mirror the defending player is a bronze league scrub one baser. If both are on multiple bases and a split map, then it was an act of god or jetlag.
whatsgrackalackin420
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1358
Now people can't complain about balance they have to complain about imaginary BM and boring strats. Yay.
Solai
Profile Joined September 2009
204 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1359
This is a very entertaining series so far. I am really enjoying myself.
KovuTalli
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom325 Posts
November 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#1360
[image loading]

^^
"Milk tastes like milk" - Raelcun.
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