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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2401
Well in brood war wraith did not two shot your workers if you had no detection
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2402
On November 01 2010 21:27 Powster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:26 killerkoala wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:24 Powster wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:21 The KY wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:19 Powster wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:17 pretensile wrote:
The great irony of this series is that if Foxer does go on to win the GSL, there will be some loud minority claiming that Foxer is overrated and lucked into winning the tournament courtesy of Kyrix throwing his advantage away... not unlike the contingent who kept insisting Fruitdealer was overrated and should have lost to oGsTOP.


Thats exactly how I feel.. fruitdealer got lucky. This guy might get lucky also and win.. both have styles that can be beat if someone looks closely to how they play. Next season though.. there will be someone who knocks him out early..


You're trolling right?

Foxer beat Fruitdealer, Sangho and Kyrix, and he's in the semi-finals, and you say he got lucky? Fucking hell.


.. fruitdealer beat a lot of people also. So no I am not trolling.. fruitdealer is very good.. probably 2nd best zerg... this guy is very good also but they arent the best. Which is why they dont deserve to do as good as they have done due to luck..

I think pure micro = luck... pure macro = skill.. 50/50 or.. 75/25= skill... and yes I am a idra fan because.. he plays very solid.


Quoting for posterity.
Micro = luck. You heard it here. >.>


lol.. yeah not all luck but only way to get my point across was to be extreme about it.. relying on really good micro skills vs banelings isnt skill in my opinion. I would rather rely on building placement / unit composition.

Relying on skill is not skill.
You heard it first.
You deserve a Picard "WTF is this shit" image.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2403
On November 01 2010 21:29 Darksoldierr wrote:
MAKA TWILIGHT CUNCIL


no way

maka council would be in front of his ramp lol
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Sergeras
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria185 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2404
On November 01 2010 21:38 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:35 Fa1nT wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:33 BurningSera wrote:
please fix this PvT no robo = high chance auto lose in future blizzard lol


Get a robo?


i should rephase to this: no early robo

Why not?Robo was essential in TvP BW why shouldn't it be in sc2?
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2405
On November 01 2010 21:38 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:35 Fa1nT wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:33 BurningSera wrote:
please fix this PvT no robo = high chance auto lose in future blizzard lol


Get a robo?


i should rephase to this: no early robo


A forge might have been able to hold down in that situation, no?
Arkaridge
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia48 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2406
If it was anything but cloaked banshee, the blink stalkers would have been heaps more effective. Oh well. quite the gamble.
The_Dark
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa222 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2407
On November 01 2010 21:40 throttled wrote:
If that robo went up 20-30 seconds earlier Genius would have steamrolled.


forge/canon, would of stopped it cold
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#2408
On November 01 2010 21:28 JunkkaGom wrote:
Some may call it BM but remembering what a nervus guy he was I like his new confidence. He was the only player I remember being more scared of camera than me. In pregame interview for Blizzcon I translated for him and it took him 2 minutes to say his name and id cuz he was so nervous. I think winning that blizzcon did some boosting to his confidence.


<3Junkka<3
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2409
On November 01 2010 21:39 sleepingdog wrote:
well played from ITR...but damn does this cloak screw up PvT, this match-up could be SO awsome if protoss weren't so incredibly limited in its openings (no balance-QQ, just concerning variety of the strats and overall fun watching it)

its the same with mines in bw, nothing wrong with it imo
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2410
What's the song on atm?
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2411
On November 01 2010 21:37 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:33 BurningSera wrote:
please fix this PvT no robo = high chance auto lose in future blizzard lol


I really don't understand why cloak doesn't require a fusion core at least.

Banshees do sick damage, are flying, and can cloak, all for a minimal investment.

It's just so limiting to the game as a whole making cloaked banshees such a minimal investment.


Fusion core?! Madness.

I kind of think banshee rush is easy to scout. Barracks unit count will be so low even if you don't see the actual starport. And if you see a wall, assume banshees I guess?
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 12:41:32
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2412
On November 01 2010 21:39 mikerpiker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:38 Renew wrote:
Does anyone else feel Tasteless is not into it today?


i always feel like Artosis is WAY more into it than Tasteless is, but maybe he's just better at expressing his passion


It's more like Artosis has actually played this game at a not utterly terrible level
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2413
Please stop telling me that making Marauder+Marine is more skill than making marines and relying on micro to keep them alive.
ZeGzoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden307 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2414
On November 01 2010 21:39 bokeevboke wrote:
There is no place for banshees in the game. They are adding luck factor -_-

Same as Kyrix vs Foxer. Its just coin flip.


Ofc there is a place for them, same as DTs. Detection is an importent part of this game.
yeah yeah im going
nedamise
Profile Joined August 2010
169 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2415
On November 01 2010 21:39 killerkoala wrote:
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On November 01 2010 21:37 z00t wrote:
Sucks that I kinda need to sleep soon (not as bad as you guys in the USA that need to wake up so early to watch ^^), but I gotta see all of this series .


Hey now! I'm in the states and I get up at 5AM(GOM starts at 6) because i need a shower and breakfast and Mtn. Dew just to wake up! Lol.^^


Casting times are great for Europeans tho. It starts at 11 AM or noon.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
November 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#2416
On November 01 2010 21:39 sleepingdog wrote:
well played from ITR...but damn does this cloak screw up PvT, this match-up could be SO awsome if protoss weren't so incredibly limited in its openings (no balance-QQ, just concerning variety of the strats and overall fun watching it)


Terran is limited to raxes. Did you ever went tanks vs fast stalkerblinkpush? Or Thors? You have to go MMM or you die. Bansheeplay is okay, but very risky and beatable.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#2417
On November 01 2010 21:40 Sergeras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:38 BurningSera wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:35 Fa1nT wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:33 BurningSera wrote:
please fix this PvT no robo = high chance auto lose in future blizzard lol


Get a robo?


i should rephase to this: no early robo

Why not?Robo was essential in TvP BW why shouldn't it be in sc2?


Because sc1 =/= sc2 obviously.
Stop making dumb statements.
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
November 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#2418
On November 01 2010 21:40 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:27 Powster wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:26 killerkoala wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:24 Powster wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:21 The KY wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:19 Powster wrote:
On November 01 2010 21:17 pretensile wrote:
The great irony of this series is that if Foxer does go on to win the GSL, there will be some loud minority claiming that Foxer is overrated and lucked into winning the tournament courtesy of Kyrix throwing his advantage away... not unlike the contingent who kept insisting Fruitdealer was overrated and should have lost to oGsTOP.


Thats exactly how I feel.. fruitdealer got lucky. This guy might get lucky also and win.. both have styles that can be beat if someone looks closely to how they play. Next season though.. there will be someone who knocks him out early..


You're trolling right?

Foxer beat Fruitdealer, Sangho and Kyrix, and he's in the semi-finals, and you say he got lucky? Fucking hell.


.. fruitdealer beat a lot of people also. So no I am not trolling.. fruitdealer is very good.. probably 2nd best zerg... this guy is very good also but they arent the best. Which is why they dont deserve to do as good as they have done due to luck..

I think pure micro = luck... pure macro = skill.. 50/50 or.. 75/25= skill... and yes I am a idra fan because.. he plays very solid.


Quoting for posterity.
Micro = luck. You heard it here. >.>


lol.. yeah not all luck but only way to get my point across was to be extreme about it.. relying on really good micro skills vs banelings isnt skill in my opinion. I would rather rely on building placement / unit composition.

Relying on skill is not skill.
You heard it first.
You deserve a Picard "WTF is this shit" image.


lol.. sucks trying to explain early in the morning.. rereading things I write makes me look like a retard.. Better to not be in a situation to rely on micro skill was my point.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 12:42:52
November 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#2419
i'd just like to reassert that fauxer is insane best comeback i've seen yet
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
November 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#2420
On November 01 2010 21:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 21:38 positron. wrote:
ITR just blind countered the twilight build. Pretty unlucky for NEXGenius.


people should learn to play my counter more.

so the score is 1-1 now?

Learning to counter is easy but to blind counter takes some real skills. Had Genius gone for any of those popular builds he could have held on a bit better.
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